2014 Billboard Boxscores

[coldengrey12]

Bend, J'ville and Berkeley are the only sell outs in that list.

Originally Posted by wthomps1

I also think Red Rocks will pop up again in the next few years. It seems they've been playing smaller venues more, such as the Greek which is comparable to RR. Also of their stage setup is an issue they can just scale it back like most artists do at RR and use the natural rocks as a backdrop instead of elaborate screens.

They ditched the screens they had in '05 when they played RR, but they weren't a dominant part of the setup then.

[podiumboy]

Yeah there aren't a lot of sellouts, but I think as long as the band continue to sell out roughly 2/3 of the venues, they'll stick around for at least another year. When you start playing to half full amphitheaters (like Chula) you start to close in on the break even point. They aren't going to play somewhere if they know it'll lose money. Hence why Phoenix was cut years ago, and why St. Louis wasn't played this year.

[Dannyyankou]

Hartford attendence is almost equal to last year. I think the venue was only half full N1.

[coolhotwaves]

The band should start touring smaller venues. They aren't near what they used to be in popularity.

[dray10486]

I think they will continue to tour heavily, the band didn't have to pay an opener this year and probably negotiated taking more or paying less money to the venue due to all the increased time people would be in the venue spending money. In other words, even with down or steady numbers attendance wise the band itself made more $ than they previously did, I am only guessing out that but I cant see why not

[daveshookme]

no sellouts at gorge kind of hurts to see.

[jenzzjetII]

Originally Posted by daveshookme

no sellouts at gorge kind of hurts to see.

At least it was an increase over last year. 50473 in 2013.

[russvodder]

Originally Posted by wthomps1

I also think Red Rocks will pop up again in the next few years. It seems they've been playing smaller venues more, such as the Greek which is comparable to RR. Also of their stage setup is an issue they can just scale it back like most artists do at RR and use the natural rocks as a backdrop instead of elaborate screens.

Bend set up was a very minimalistic setup. No reason they couldn't do the same for RR.

[IndyDMB]

Originally Posted by Keyz

lots of this. i really wouldn't pay to sit behind a band at any show (maybe a Led Zeppelin reunion tour), let alone Bon Jovi. people are nuts.

Saw dmb at Champaign, IL and sat behind the band. It was quite awesome. It was surprising how much dave played with his back to the audience. And the interaction between him, Carter and the band was pretty cool to see. Very memorable.

[danb5520]

These numbers are good? They look like the beginning of the end to me especially since this year was a new gimmick (acoustic) for the same shows. I'm barely excited for my home show anymore. I know it's a joke on the board, but this band has gone way downhill. The setlists are boring and the last 4 albums have been pretty much crap. I'd settle for a play the hits tour at this point. Won't surprise me to see them call it quits soon and unfortunately I won't be that upset about it.

[podiumboy]

These numbers are NOTHING like they were 5, 10 or 15 years ago. Those days are over. In those days, they couldn't meet the demand, even with playing stadiums in the big cities. But they've been touring EVERY year in the SAME venues (except 2011, I know), and most bands just can't do that, and don't. These numbers are good considering the fact that they're no longer a "Current" act, and that they play every summer at the same prices.

Those big country acts you were talking about (Aldean, Paisley, Luke Bryan, etc) ONLY play shows on weekends. Friday, Saturday and Sunday, then they go home for 4 days. They do this because tickets sell easier on the weekends. I really think DMB needs to do this.

[Will57]

The numbers that I really think interesting are some of the East Coast dates like Camden, Hartford, and Darien. DMB cut numerous dates out of the East Coast swing and really didn't seem to gain sales as a result. Camden is really a stunner. They cut Bethel, Montage, and Hershey and didn't see any spike in attendance for a weekend in Camden. If they would start to mix up sets again, people will start coming out to more shows. If 2015 is simply a rehash of the past few tours, I expect to see more attendance drops at a venue near you. Speaking personally, I am in no hurry to put 5 shows on my 2015 tour calendar, but might consider it if/when set variation improves. Having said all that, DMB still made a ton of money this summer on ticket sales and merchandise for sure.

[Hilly]

Originally Posted by Will57

If they would start to mix up sets again, people will start coming out to more shows.

The impact of setlist variety is greatly exaggerated here.

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by Hilly

The impact of setlist variety is greatly exaggerated here.

Mmmmmm nnnnnnope. It's not. Try again?

[Will57]

Originally Posted by Hilly

The impact of setlist variety is greatly exaggerated here.

I don't think that it really is. They are not a band that has a fan base anywhere near as large as the amount of tickets sold for a tour each year. The band fills venues because many fans are hitting 3, 4, 5 shows a summer. Just speaking personally, the 2008 tour had some good variety and surprises throughout the summer. I saw them that year in Bethel, Hershey, SPAC, Camden, and Montage. All of those shows are within 3 hours of my home at the time. Based on the sets the past few years, I would never dream of doing that again. If they come out swinging in 2015, I would be much more open to hitting up more shows. I will admit that casual fans are less these days and may account some lost sales, but hardcore fans drastically cutting shows is really hitting them.

[jsmitty]

Originally Posted by Hilly

The impact of setlist variety is greatly exaggerated here.

You're way more right than anyone around here will ever admit

[two-by-twostep]

At Darien this year it was shocking how empty the place was, but still 12,000...that's awful - it was only a few years ago the show sold out. I'm sure it'll be on the chopping block next year

[Hilly]

Even with venues 3/4 full, it's better to play the pavilions.

[acousticmike80]

I agree with a few posters above. I personally do not think the setlist variety (depending on which side of the debate you are on) has as much impact on attendance as others do.

For those of us "hardcores" it can certainly impact the # of shows we go to.

But, I am not sure if that has as much impact on those who are bit more casual.

And to be honest, the reason I go to "less" shows these days has nothing to do with the setlists.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by acousticmike80

I agree with a few posters above. I personally do not think the setlist variety (depending on which side of the debate you are on) has as much impact on attendance as others do.

For those of us "hardcores" it can certainly impact the # of shows we go to.

But, I am not sure if that has as much impact on those who are bit more casual.

And to be honest, the reason I go to "less" shows these days has nothing to do with the setlists.

Filthy fucking casuals.

[Foreverford05]

I figured Jiffy Lube/VaBeach were pretty packed. Seemed that way at the show

[moccasin]

HOT TOURS Boxscores - Sept. 17, 2014


Dave Matthews Band follows at No. 3 with $15.6 million in sales reported from its summer trek through North American markets that wrapped the first week of September. This tally includes shows dated July 11 through Sept. 6. Set primarily in outdoor amphitheaters, the jam band's tour included the traditional Labor Day run of concerts at the Gorge, the 23,000-seat amphitheater located in central Washington state. This year's engagement on Aug. 29-31, with $2.8 million in sales from 53,761 sold tickets, marked the ninth consecutive year that DMB has performed at the venue during the Labor Day holiday weekend.

The band's association with the venue stretches back to the '90s, however, with its first appearance in 1996. They were on the bill for Blues Traveler's H.O.R.D.E. festival tour that summer and began headlining at the amphitheater the following year. The group has performed at the venue every year since then. Dave Matthews Band's tour wrapped after 42 shows with sales logged at $38 million from more than 675,000 sold seats.


Rank ACT
Total Gross
Show Dates
Show Venue/City (Shows/Sellouts)
Total Attendance (Capacity)

1 KATY PERRY
$31,072,980
July 15-Sept. 13
Bell Centre, Montreal (1/1)
CONSOL Energy Center, Pittsburgh (1/1)
Barclays Center, Brooklyn, N.Y. (2/2)
TD Garden, Boston (2/2)
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia (2/2)
United Center, Chicago (2/2)
Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, Mich. (1/1)
Nationwide Arena, Columbus, Ohio (1/1)
Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (1/1)
KFC Yum! Center, Louisville, Ky. (1/1)
Scottrade Center, St. Louis (1/1)
Sprint Center, Kansas City, Mo. (1/1)
Pinnacle Bank Arena, Lincoln, Neb. (1/1)
Target Center, Minneapolis (1/1)
Fargodome, Fargo, N.D. (1/1)
Moda Center, Portland, Ore. (1/1)
Tacoma Dome, Tacoma, Wash. (1/1)
308,373 (308,373)

2 PHISH
$19,909,818
July 1-Aug. 31
XFINITY Center, Mansfield, Mass. (1/0)
Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, N.Y. (3/0)
Mann Center for the Performing Arts, Philadelphia (2/0)
Randall's Island, New York (3/0)
CMAC Performing Arts Center, Canandaigua, N.Y. (1/0)
DTE Energy Music Center, Clarkston, Mich. (1/0)
FirstMerit Bank Pavilion at Northerly Island, Chicago (3/0)
PNC Music Pavilion, Charlotte (1/0)
Merriweather Post Pavilion, Columbia, Md. (2/0)
nTelos Wireless Pavilion, Portsmouth, Va. (2/0)
Oak Mountain Amphitheatre, Pelham, Ala. (1/0)
Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre at Encore Park, Alpharetta, Ga. (1/0)
Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, Commerce City, Colo. (3/0)
371,965 (486,856)

3 DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
$15,671,014
July 11-Sept. 6
XFINITY Theatre, Hartford, Conn. (2/0)
Veterans Memorial Arena, Jacksonville (1/1)
MidFlorida Credit Union Amphitheatre, Tampa (1/0)
Cruzan Amphitheatre, West Palm Beach, Fla. (2/0)
PNC Music Pavilion, Charlotte (1/0)
Walnut Creek Amphitheatre, Raleigh, N.C. (1/0)
Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach, Virginia Beach, Va. (1/0)
Jiffy Lube Live, Bristow, Va. (1/0)
Hearst Greek Theatre, Berkeley, Calif. (3/3)
Les Schwab Amphitheatre, Bend, Ore. (1/1)
The Gorge, George, Wash. (3/0)
Sleep Train Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, Calif. (1/0)
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Irvine, Calif. (1/0)
269,762 (335,177)

4 ONE DIRECTION
$12,560,382
Sept. 11-13
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, Calif. (3/3)
165,170 (165,170)

5 ANDRÉ RIEU
$5,865,990
July 4-20
Vrijthof, Maastricht, Netherlands (8/0)
58,428 (60,072)

6 QUEEN + ADAM LAMBERT
$3,803,070
Aug. 26-27
Allphones Arena, Sydney (2/2)
24,773 (24,773)

7 BLAKE SHELTON
$2,059,558
Sept. 4-6
Isleta Amphitheater, Albuquerque, N.M. (1/1)
Ak-Chin Pavilion, Phoenix (1/1)
Sleep Train Amphitheatre, Wheatland, Calif. (1/1)
55,230 (55,230)

8 RASCAL FLATTS
$1,775,224
Aug. 24-Sept. 6
Lake Tahoe Outdoor Arena at Harveys, Stateline, Nev. (1/0)
Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, N.Y. (1/0)
Riverbend Music Center, Cincinnati (1/0)
First Niagara Pavilion, Burgettstown, Pa. (1/0)
51,948 (65,500)

9 ERIC CHURCH
$1,736,013
Sept. 11-13
CenturyLink Center, Bossier City, La. (1/1)
Verizon Arena, North Little Rock, Ark. (1/0)
Scottrade Center, St. Louis (1/0)
36,689 (38,348)

10 KANYE WEST
$1,421,860
Sept. 5
Perth Arena, Perth, Australia (1/1)
12,902 (12,902)

http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...tour-hot-tours

[aircavmike]

Like Bryan and Jason Aldean have to be high on the list for $$$ earned this year... Not sure why they didn't make that list

[Mateo2k]

Originally Posted by moccasin

HOT TOURS Boxscores - Sept. 17, 2014


Dave Matthews Band follows at No. 3 with $15.6 million in sales reported from its summer trek through North American markets that wrapped the first week of September. This tally includes shows dated July 11 through Sept. 6. Set primarily in outdoor amphitheaters, the jam band's tour included the traditional Labor Day run of concerts at the Gorge, the 23,000-seat amphitheater located in central Washington state. This year's engagement on Aug. 29-31, with $2.8 million in sales from 53,761 sold tickets, marked the ninth consecutive year that DMB has performed at the venue during the Labor Day holiday weekend.

The band's association with the venue stretches back to the '90s, however, with its first appearance in 1996. They were on the bill for Blues Traveler's H.O.R.D.E. festival tour that summer and began headlining at the amphitheater the following year. The group has performed at the venue every year since then. Dave Matthews Band's tour wrapped after 42 shows with sales logged at $38 million from more than 675,000 sold seats.


Rank ACT
Total Gross
Show Dates
Show Venue/City (Shows/Sellouts)
Total Attendance (Capacity)

1 KATY PERRY
$31,072,980
July 15-Sept. 13
Bell Centre, Montreal (1/1)
CONSOL Energy Center, Pittsburgh (1/1)
Barclays Center, Brooklyn, N.Y. (2/2)
TD Garden, Boston (2/2)
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia (2/2)
United Center, Chicago (2/2)
Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, Mich. (1/1)
Nationwide Arena, Columbus, Ohio (1/1)
Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (1/1)
KFC Yum! Center, Louisville, Ky. (1/1)
Scottrade Center, St. Louis (1/1)
Sprint Center, Kansas City, Mo. (1/1)
Pinnacle Bank Arena, Lincoln, Neb. (1/1)
Target Center, Minneapolis (1/1)
Fargodome, Fargo, N.D. (1/1)
Moda Center, Portland, Ore. (1/1)
Tacoma Dome, Tacoma, Wash. (1/1)
308,373 (308,373)

2 PHISH
$19,909,818
July 1-Aug. 31
XFINITY Center, Mansfield, Mass. (1/0)
Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, N.Y. (3/0)
Mann Center for the Performing Arts, Philadelphia (2/0)
Randall's Island, New York (3/0)
CMAC Performing Arts Center, Canandaigua, N.Y. (1/0)
DTE Energy Music Center, Clarkston, Mich. (1/0)
FirstMerit Bank Pavilion at Northerly Island, Chicago (3/0)
PNC Music Pavilion, Charlotte (1/0)
Merriweather Post Pavilion, Columbia, Md. (2/0)
nTelos Wireless Pavilion, Portsmouth, Va. (2/0)
Oak Mountain Amphitheatre, Pelham, Ala. (1/0)
Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre at Encore Park, Alpharetta, Ga. (1/0)
Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, Commerce City, Colo. (3/0)
371,965 (486,856)

3 DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
$15,671,014
July 11-Sept. 6
XFINITY Theatre, Hartford, Conn. (2/0)
Veterans Memorial Arena, Jacksonville (1/1)
MidFlorida Credit Union Amphitheatre, Tampa (1/0)
Cruzan Amphitheatre, West Palm Beach, Fla. (2/0)
PNC Music Pavilion, Charlotte (1/0)
Walnut Creek Amphitheatre, Raleigh, N.C. (1/0)
Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach, Virginia Beach, Va. (1/0)
Jiffy Lube Live, Bristow, Va. (1/0)
Hearst Greek Theatre, Berkeley, Calif. (3/3)
Les Schwab Amphitheatre, Bend, Ore. (1/1)
The Gorge, George, Wash. (3/0)
Sleep Train Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, Calif. (1/0)
Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Irvine, Calif. (1/0)
269,762 (335,177)

4 ONE DIRECTION
$12,560,382
Sept. 11-13
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, Calif. (3/3)
165,170 (165,170)

5 ANDRÉ RIEU
$5,865,990
July 4-20
Vrijthof, Maastricht, Netherlands (8/0)
58,428 (60,072)

6 QUEEN + ADAM LAMBERT
$3,803,070
Aug. 26-27
Allphones Arena, Sydney (2/2)
24,773 (24,773)

7 BLAKE SHELTON
$2,059,558
Sept. 4-6
Isleta Amphitheater, Albuquerque, N.M. (1/1)
Ak-Chin Pavilion, Phoenix (1/1)
Sleep Train Amphitheatre, Wheatland, Calif. (1/1)
55,230 (55,230)

8 RASCAL FLATTS
$1,775,224
Aug. 24-Sept. 6
Lake Tahoe Outdoor Arena at Harveys, Stateline, Nev. (1/0)
Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, N.Y. (1/0)
Riverbend Music Center, Cincinnati (1/0)
First Niagara Pavilion, Burgettstown, Pa. (1/0)
51,948 (65,500)

9 ERIC CHURCH
$1,736,013
Sept. 11-13
CenturyLink Center, Bossier City, La. (1/1)
Verizon Arena, North Little Rock, Ark. (1/0)
Scottrade Center, St. Louis (1/0)
36,689 (38,348)

10 KANYE WEST
$1,421,860
Sept. 5
Perth Arena, Perth, Australia (1/1)
12,902 (12,902)

http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...tour-hot-tours

Whelp. Time to start playing the clubs. That's it for them.

[FeelingGood]

Comparing 2013 to 2014 (summer tours), DMB improved average gross sales by 4.6% (from $864,081 in 2013 to $903,737 in 2014). Average attendance improved 4.9% (from 15,325 in 2013 to 16,081 in 2014). Their average percent of capacity in 2013 was 74%, which improved to 84% in 2014. Their overall sales dropped from $38.9M to $38.0M, but they worked three less shows this year.

News of this band's slide has been greatly exaggerated. Musically however, I wish I could say "your band is back," but it's just not.

[Will57]

Originally Posted by FeelingGood

Comparing 2013 to 2014 (summer tours), DMB improved average gross sales by 4.6% (from $864,081 in 2013 to $903,737 in 2014). Average attendance improved 4.9% (from 15,325 in 2013 to 16,081 in 2014). Their average percent of capacity in 2013 was 74%, which improved to 84% in 2014. Their overall sales dropped from $38.9M to $38.0M, but they worked three less shows this year.

News of this band's slide has been greatly exaggerated. Musically however, I wish I could say "your band is back," but it's just not.

It is not being exaggerated at all. Simply look at their numbers from 2008-2010. In those tours, they played two night stands that were sold out, sold out stadium shows, and even multi-night stadium shows. They were pulling 15,000 people from Scranton, pa to see a Tuesday show in late September one of those years. You are citing numbers showing an increase in 2014 over a deadfully attended 2013 tour as evidence we are exaggerating their attendance decline. Come on and think about this here.

[FeelingGood]

Originally Posted by Will57

It is not being exaggerated at all. Simply look at their numbers from 2008-2010. In those tours, they played two night stands that were sold out, sold out stadium shows, and even multi-night stadium shows. They were pulling 15,000 people from Scranton, pa to see a Tuesday show in late September one of those years. You are citing numbers showing an increase in 2014 over a dreadfully attended 2013 tour as evidence we are exaggerating their attendance decline. Come on and think about this here.

Surely you don't think I'm naive to the fact DMB isn't drawing stadiums full of fans anymore. That decline is so well known and obvious...I'm referring to the idiots who go to recent shows, see a few empty seats in the back upper pavilion and then come on Ants and say "the numbers must be way down...they should start playing smaller venues." My issue is with anecdotal evidence. Regardless of 2013 attendance, dreadful or not, the fact is the numbers are up and numbers don't lie. Don't make my post into something it's not.

[Will57]

Originally Posted by FeelingGood

Surely you don't think I'm naive to the fact DMB isn't drawing stadiums full of fans anymore. That decline is so well known and obvious...I'm referring to the idiots who go to recent shows, see a few empty seats in the back upper pavilion and then come on Ants and say "the numbers must be way down...they should start playing smaller venues." My issue is with anecdotal evidence. Regardless of 2013 attendance, dreadful or not, the fact is the numbers are up and numbers don't lie. Don't make my post into something it's not.

I understand what you are saying about the freak out mentality of some around here, but many of their venues, stadium and otherwise, have seen a sharp decline. Look at Hartford and Camden as clear examples. Both venues routinely sold out both nights. Now, Hartford and Camden are half empty night one and only 3/4 full for night two. It has been a sharp decline the past few tours. I always use Scranton as an example. In 2005 and 2006, they pulled 18k. By 2013, the played to a crowd of 9,900. I know some say extreme or hyperbolic things, but it is hard to argue with numbers.

[aircavmike]

Originally Posted by Will57

I understand what you are saying about the freak out mentality of some around here, but many of their venues, stadium and otherwise, have seen a sharp decline. Look at Hartford and Camden as clear examples. Both venues routinely sold out both nights. Now, Hartford and Camden are half empty night one and only 3/4 full for night two. It has been a sharp decline the past few tours. I always use Scranton as an example. In 2005 and 2006, they pulled 18k. By 2013, the played to a crowd of 9,900. I know some say extreme or hyperbolic things, but it is hard to argue with numbers.

Exactly....
They are playing more and 8K-10k capacity type places which all sell out... That helps in terms of % of seats sold.... Coupled w them cutting shows
I don't think it can be emphasized enough your point on east coast shows... They have significantly cut back on shows in that area, this giving fans a lot less options

[BotheLaneFan]

I literally could not buy a ticket to Chula the night before the show because Ticketmaster/Live Nation had it as sold out.