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Old 06-13-2017, 07:40 AM   #31
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Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

This time period was Butch at his absolute worst. Looking at some of the song times, I'm guessing this will have a couple of his dreadful meandering solos. Woof.


Interested in hearing that Shotgun and IIHIA though.
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  • Old 06-13-2017, 07:40 AM   #32
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, given his stance on this band post 2004
    you're just pretty sure??
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:41 AM   #33
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    I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, given his stance on this band post 2004
    Sure as shit hope so
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:41 AM   #34
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    Only 2 shows worth a damn in 2007 are Camden n2 and Hollywood n2
    This. Seriously. 2007 really begins and ends with Camden and Hollywood Bowl, with a little Alpine thrown in the middle. Anything else is bonus disc worthy at best.

    That said, here's where LT 42 lands for me:

    1) I'll probably buy it. Bitching aside, it does look like a solid show for 2007 - which was a good year for me as a fan, so a little nostalgia sweetens this one up a bit.

    2) I enjoy the ADSR openers from that tour; a 2007 style Cornbread (darker melodies), SUAD, Shotgun are nice. Rest of the set is pretty average.

    3) The only thing people are going to talk about is this IIHIA w/ extended intro. That probably should have been a WH disc pick, not sure how the whole show stacks up.

    4) HOLLYWOOD BOWL COME ON. As much as I'm okay with this release, I'm also pissed because 2007 doesn't feel like a year that will have too many chances at bat for release again. We already had more than our share back in the day (Vegas, Piedmont, Radio City, Lisbon, etc). I'm truly surprised to see another '07 show get a full release - but to that end, WTF why not Hollywood?? You cannot find a better show that tour. Must be an issue with all the guests on 10/2, paying royalties or whatever. Such a shame.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:41 AM   #35
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    As far as line up for live shows, I prefer early to mid 2000s; but if you think Dave's best material as far as song writing wasn't in the 90s, then you my friend, are out of your mind. LT41 is brilliant.
    I was being incredibly sarcastic
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:44 AM   #36
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    A Dream So Real -1
    Pantala Naga Pampa »
    Rapunzel 0
    Everyday 0
    Loving Wings -1
    The Song That Jane Likes 0
    Corn Bread -1
    Eh Hee -2
    Crush -1
    Sister -2
    If I Had It All -2 (honestly it should be -3 but if it's the "definitive" version of a crappy song I'll throw it a 0 until I hear it)
    Sweet Up and Down -1
    Grey Street 0
    Shotgun 0
    Dancing Nancies 1
    So Much to Say » 2
    Anyone Seen the Bridge »
    Too Much 3
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    Gravedigger 2
    Louisiana Bayou » 1
    Ants Marching 2

    not great bob
    a zero for Shotgun automatically renders your opinion useless.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:46 AM   #37
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    a zero for Shotgun automatically renders your opinion useless.
    and a -1 for Loving Wings reinforces that.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:48 AM   #38
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    yeah honestly shotgun is a -1. grey street from 2007 is also a -1. I was very generous in my grading here.

    it's a freaking brutally bad selection. just awful.

    shotgun is a bad song with 4 bars of a good guitar riff repeated a few times. glad that that's enough for some people, it's just not for me.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:49 AM   #39
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

    loving wings is an absolutely miserable song. that it's long enough to get to the bathroom and back is its only saving grace.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:49 AM   #40
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    A Dream So Real -1
    Pantala Naga Pampa »
    Rapunzel 0
    Everyday 0
    Loving Wings -1
    The Song That Jane Likes 0
    Corn Bread -1
    Eh Hee -2
    Crush -1
    Sister -2
    If I Had It All -2 (honestly it should be -3 but if it's the "definitive" version of a crappy song I'll throw it a 0 until I hear it)
    Sweet Up and Down -1
    Grey Street 0
    Shotgun 0
    Dancing Nancies 1
    So Much to Say » 2
    Anyone Seen the Bridge »
    Too Much 3
    -----------------------------------
    Gravedigger 2
    Louisiana Bayou » 1
    Ants Marching 2

    not great bob
    This is a shitty set, I agree with you. However, although I don't love If I Had It All, I definitely don't hate it. With that said, I do LOVE this version. It really is amazing. I'm a big fan of the Holding Back the Years interpolation. For anyone who wants to listen, the youtube version (link below) already has pretty good audio quality.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KVSvWYR3o

    Hopefully this SUAD is decent. I'm not a big fan of any of the released versions that I've heard (might not have heard them all though).

    And I won't be mad about another Shotgun release, though not my favorite song. The rest of the show is boring and bland.

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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:50 AM   #41
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    loving wings is an absolutely miserable song. that it's long enough to get to the bathroom and back is its only saving grace.
    Lol, we are just on opposite ends of the spectrum today I guess. Oh well. I also love Loving Wings. This version from 2015 was great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoyHjOhYIp4

    It sounded great IMO acoustic. Haven't heard the version on LT42 yet though.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:50 AM   #42
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

    Loving wings is amazing. But I bet this version has a butch solo rather than Roi because 2007
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:53 AM   #43
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

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    This is regarded as the definitive If I Had It All.

    Dave changed his shirt during the intro and as a result the instrumental intro was extended. Also has an excellent Holding Back the Years interpolation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KVSvWYR3o


    great version
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:57 AM   #44
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    Old 06-13-2017, 07:58 AM   #45
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

    A Roi solo is pretty much the only thing worthwhile in Loving Wings, and like you said, this will probably be Butch bee bopping and scatting all over it isntead of Roi soloing.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 08:02 AM   #46
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

    Even the cover for this is bad. Couldn't use a smaller font to fit the word "West" on there and used "W." instead? Literally no one writes it that way. Just looks bad like that IMO, and the cover art just looks like something I've made for summer tour shows using a random google photo.

    Anyways, a couple of highlights here, but nothing release worthy IMO. I'm guessing Hollywood Bowl show has too many guests to get clearance/pay royalties etc to?
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    and the cover art just looks like something I've made for summer tour shows using a random google photo.
    Seriously, throw a tie-dye pattern behind Dave's head in MS Paint and this is legit a poster I had on my wall in college
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    Old 06-13-2017, 08:05 AM   #48
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    Even the cover for this is bad. Couldn't use a smaller font to fit the word "West" on there and used "W." instead? Literally no one writes it that way. Just looks bad like that IMO, and the cover art just looks like something I've made for summer tour shows using a random google photo.

    Anyways, a couple of highlights here, but nothing release worthy IMO. I'm guessing Hollywood Bowl show has too many guests to get clearance/pay royalties etc to?
    Yea, it looks shitty and like it was put together last second. The set sucks. I'm not sure who chooses these things but whoever it is is completely out of touch with the fan base. And it's the fans that post on the message boards and travel across the country that buy the LTs, not the casual fan.

    Isn't there someone on here that works for the WH? I'd like to get his/her take on this.
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    Old 06-13-2017, 08:08 AM   #49
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    Yea, it looks shitty and like it was put together last second. The set sucks. I'm not sure who chooses these things but whoever it is is completely out of touch with the fan base. And it's the fans that post on the message boards and travel across the country that buy the LTs, not the casual fan.

    Isn't there someone on here that works for the WH? I'd like to get his/her take on this.
    Eh, I disagree there. I mean they've been on a good run for a while, but this one is a little bit of a head scratcher. It could be worse I guess, but it doesn't seem LT worthy at the moment to me.

    Maybe there's something we are missing here that we are unaware of? I've never listened to this show either, so maybe I'm not the best one to be offering criticism.
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    yeah hopefully this is just a small misstep on what I've thought has been the best stretch of releases we've gotten
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    Re: Live Trax 42: 9/14/07 - Sound Advice Amphitheatre - West Palm Beach, FL

    Put this IIHIA on a WH disc, release 8/8/07 or 10/2/07 instead.

    Nobody would ask for this full show, ever.
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    And there's the confirmation that LT42 is what it is.
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    garbage?
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    Looks good, needed a summer 07 show

    weird choice though
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    Put this IIHIA on a WH disc, release 8/8/07 or 10/2/07 instead.

    Nobody would ask for this full show, ever.


    I'd throw this back in a heart beat for 10.02.07. There's no reason why they shouldn't give us as many #34s with LeRoi as they can.
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    Looks like the second one in a row I won't be buying. Bummer.

    yea that Live Trax 41 was crap.
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