Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

[hailtopitt]

guys he's not melting, he's using capital letters to really make sure you know that

[DoDaFoo]

This release is proof that it is impossible to please everyone. Wow. Just because this release isn't a 2016 show doesn't mean the won't eventually release 3 or 4 of them.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by coldblueice

love the melt.

own the melt.

We're the only two sane people here coldblueice. I hope you know that. You're not melting. Don't let them tell you that.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

Why is a disagreement in here considered a melt? I'm poking fun at Dobyblue because he's way more technologically advanced than me and considers himself extremely intelligent. He'll start using really big words that he's googled to defend himself here next.

I find it fun to argue in a board about my favorite band. I don't think it should be considered a melt to defend your points of view about why I like or dislike something. Doby did not prove me wrong. He has no fucking idea if it was filmed professionally or not. When I said prove me wrong, we'll just see when it comes out. And when it does, I hope he has proved me wrong. I am not hoping for a shit release. But it's not that exciting on paper.

Here are things you will all disagree with:

I LIKE THE SOUND OF THE GORGE RELEASE! I don't care if ANYONE else likes it or not. For the record someone asked me why I would not be excited about this 2002 release when the Gorge 02 release was so great. I am not alone here.

I AM NOT THRILLED ABOUT #LT40 being released. I WOULD RATHER HAVE HAD A 2016 show from SPAC or Gorge or West Palm Beach. An official release of three new songs along with some of the sets in 2016 would make me much happier.

Again I loved 2016. I've made my point about that several times.
Everyone else in this board is living in 1993-2004 and only wants the band to sound like that for eternity. I've moved on 12 years later, and enjoy where they are currently at.

Not everyone else on this board is stuck in the past. I love the 3.0 sound for the most part. 2008-2010 they were playing great performances. 2016 performances were not good overall.

People want releases from 93-04 because thats when the band sounded best. Do you at least realize that this LT will sell probably 4-5x more copies than if they released SPAC N2?

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by DoDaFoo

This release is proof that it is impossible to please everyone. Wow. Just because this release isn't a 2016 show doesn't mean the won't eventually release 3 or 4 of them.

So much this. Getting mad because this specific release isn't from 2016 is moronic. There are plenty more LT to come. It is very likely a 2016 show will get released. Why is it so hard to just look at this show, and be happy it got released? This is one of the most iconic shows in this bands history, and it's from a year we don't have many releases from.

[crashintonickdm]

there isnt anything wrong with this release.

i know this is ants, but complaining in this thread is ridiculous. no show from 16 would top this.

[DMB1983]

Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. I will eat my words if I enjoy this release. It needs to sound fucking outstanding though and I doubt an arena show is capable of that. We'll see.

[crashintonickdm]

trying to figure out how venue will make a difference when you're listening to professionally mixed tracks

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. I will eat my words if I enjoy this release. It needs to sound fucking outstanding though and I doubt an arena show is capable of that. We'll see.

she show being in an arena has absolutely nothing to do with how a professional mix will sound

that's common sense dude

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by DoDaFoo

This release is proof that it is impossible to please everyone. Wow.

of course it's impossible to please everyone. please tell me you are not just waking up to that fact.

it's ironic - i'm usually accused of being a huge DMB apologist around here. loving new material like AFTW when everyone else hates it. funny how i'm on the other side of the hate now.

mob mentality at its finest.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by coldblueice

of course it's impossible to please everyone. please tell me you are not just waking up to that fact.

it's ironic - i'm usually accused of being a huge DMB apologist around here. loving new material like AFTW when everyone else hates it. funny how i'm on the other side of the hate now.

mob mentality at its finest.

both "ironic" and "mob mentality" were used incorrectly here

yikes

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

We're the only two sane people here coldblueice. I hope you know that. You're not melting. Don't let them tell you that.

i'll stop the world and melt with you.

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

both "ironic" and "mob mentality" were used incorrectly here

yikes

not really.



hey, i wanna talk about how you've posted 12.62 posts a day on this site for 11 years straight. can we?

[RSSR]

I really want a '16 show with Bob Law, Samurai Cop, Bismarck and maybe a Death On The High Seas (give me Charlottesville '16 and another strategically selected '16 show) but I'm jazzed about about this selection.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by coldblueice

not really.



hey, i wanna talk about how you've posted 12.62 posts a day on this site for 11 years straight. can we?

yes, you did, horribly

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. I will eat my words if I enjoy this release. It needs to sound fucking outstanding though and I doubt an arena show is capable of that. We'll see.

If you don't even expect to enjoy this release why the hell did you bother to buy it?

Also saying the sound is affected by the venue really shows how little knowledge you have on the mixing subject, yikes.

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yes, you did, horribly

good.

first off --- how fat are you?

[hailtopitt]

yikes, did not expect the melt to take this kind of turn...

[Funkhouser]

Pitt is actually really hot.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Pitt is actually really hot.

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yikes, did not expect the melt to take this kind of turn...

you like melts, don't you?





burger melts.... tuna melts....

[hailtopitt]

this is hard to watch...

[crashintonickdm]

I'm back baby!!!!!!

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

this is hard to watch...

awww... come on, 50k! surely you're not taking this seriously? it's just the internet. don't cry man, not a good look.

take a minute if you need. then get back on the playing field.

[nickdi913]

This is a great release...period.

[laverwater]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. I will eat my words if I enjoy this release. It needs to sound fucking outstanding though and I doubt an arena show is capable of that. We'll see.

I thought your original complaint was that the filming would be bad? I can't imagine the audio being anything less than Gorge '02, which you loved.

Don't mean to be a hater, as you can certainly have your opinions (setlist preference or the idea that the video won't be as good for example), but it just sounds like you are looking for a reason to bash it now.

[coldblueice]

Originally Posted by nickdi913

This is a great release...period.

glad you're excited! enjoy!

[laverwater]

Also, and this is somewhat subject to personal opinion, but good audio from an older show is way more valuable than the newer shows. Taper recordings the last few years have been pretty amazing. Gorge this year is a prime example.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

I'm poking fun at Dobyblue because he's way more technologically advanced than me and considers himself extremely intelligent. He'll start using really big words that he's googled to defend himself here next.

When you don't have an argument, resort to ad hominem.

Doby did not prove me wrong. He has no fucking idea if it was filmed professionally or not. When I said prove me wrong, we'll just see when it comes out. And when it does, I hope he has proved me wrong. I am not hoping for a shit release. But it's not that exciting on paper.

Logic fail. If something can't be proven, explain how it can be disproven? You made a claim, the burden of proof is on you.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

she show being in an arena has absolutely nothing to do with how a professional mix will sound

that's common sense dude

Profe...wha? I'm gonna haffa Google dat big word.