Official Television Thread v2.0

[Ascf33]

I laughed at the Mad Men one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2nb644tMw

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by bannar7

Anyone else know i place i cant watch/rent british tv shows? Im trying to watch this show Utopia, which i heard was really good, but i cant find it anywhere online. Even to rent.

They're adapting it for the US - coming to Fox on September 7th.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_...lity_TV_series)

"The series follows a cast of 15 men and women who are placed in isolation and filmed twenty-four hours a day for one year. The cast must create their own society and figure out how to survive. The series will be shown twice a week, but there will be online streaming 24/7 with 129 hidden and unhidden cameras all over the Utopia compound. The live streams will begin on August 29, the day when the 15 pioneers will enter Utopia.[3] Over 5,000 people auditioned for the series.[4] Every month three pioneers will be nominated and could be sent back to their everyday lives. The live streamers will decide which new pioneers get their chance to become Utopian."

[chadizzy1]

Trailer ^

http://youtu.be/e3fu7j02Mks

[junior94]

oh well then that's not at all what I was thinking... cause the thing on Fox that will probably be crap is a reality show, the other thing was a proper scripted series. Granted, not that I expect Fox's show would give us much of anything besides heavily manufactured melodrama (as most any reality show), but you know what I mean, like a regular drama.

[chadizzy1]

The last good thing Fox did was Fringe, so we'll see.

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

The last good thing Fox did was Fringe, so we'll see.

Totally disagree. Love me some Sleepy Hollow and The Following.

[Jordan#41]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

the knick episode 2 was solid as well. found myself surprised when it ended, seemed short

I do cringe every time they show the needle between the toes. completely fine with the full on surgery scenes, but I can't even watch that

Yeah, I enjoyed ep. 2 of The Knick as well. Seemed like a shortened episode though.

[Jordan#41]

Rectify season finale is tonight.

[DMBstandUP1984]

ugh, went back to on demand to watch the strain...episode 6 is gone it is just 2 and 5....what the fuck is that

[DMBstandUP1984]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

The last good thing Fox did was Fringe, so we'll see.

yea The Following is great

[junior94]

Originally Posted by junior94

Are many out there still keeping up with Masters Of Sex? It does in some ways kind of feel like a whole different series this season, almost half way in, but still quite good. The reformed hooker Betty, it's just ridiculous how awesomely she steals every scene that she's in, and now Sarah Silverman of all people has returned in a really interesting dramatic role. I'm surprised at how far they've gone with the character of Libby, Bill's Wife, making her completely unlikeable this season as just a total condescending bitch to that poor nanny of hers. In season 1 you just felt so sorry for her as Bill's put upon wife.

kind of ironic that I so recently made the above post, because right smack dab in the middle of the latest episode I was thinking how unbelievably bored I was
I mean I think overall it has stepped down a bit in quality from s1, and it's like I truly woke up to how with Libby's story they've been playing the same one note now over and over again... then of course, the ending of the episode. Thank god they finally actually went somewhere with the story, although it seems pretty weird.

But I don't have the immediate interest for it anymore, like I didn't wind up watching this episode until yesterday. but The Leftovers, that's the first thing I watch on Monday.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

The last good thing Fox did was Fringe, so we'll see.

Originally Posted by neumdogg

Totally disagree. Love me some Sleepy Hollow and The Following.

I watch the Following but its not great. Not nearly as good as the Fringe.

I cant get into Sleepy Hollow

[chadizzy1]

Bojack Horseman is on Netflix now, anyone going to watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIXxrUQKYw

It has Will Arnett and Aaron Paul doing voices for it.

[thebridge15]

one of the reasons why game of thrones might end up as one of the best shows ever is that its best episode happened in the second to last episode of the second season. that's so early.

[smokew11]

blackwater was better than anything action movie that came out of hollywood in recent memory

[thebridge15]

for me, of my best shows (no spoilers), best episode:

game of thrones - blackwater, season 2 episode 9
mad men - shut the door. have a seat, season 3 episode 13
the wire - middle ground - season 3, episode 11
breaking bad - ozymandias, season 5, episode 14
lost - through the looking glass, season 3, episode 22

[Rodey]

This still one of my favorite moments of a show ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnoYiw9Ufk

[thebridge15]

lost is like the leftovers if things happened. when they didn't push the button, something actually happened

[Rodey]

Fuck, Lost was so good. Really need to rewatch it. Might be my favorite show ever.

[junior94]

had we talked about back when Orange Is The New Black, around when it came online, that Jodie Foster actually directed the "Lesbian Request Denied" episode? because I was just skimming over a prediction list for the Emmys and saw that among the Comedy Directing nominees, it felt like new information.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Bojack Horseman is on Netflix now, anyone going to watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIXxrUQKYw

It has Will Arnett and Aaron Paul doing voices for it.

I'm 10 minutes into the first episode and thinking this is awful.

Originally Posted by thebridge15

for me, of my best shows (no spoilers), best episode:

game of thrones - blackwater, season 2 episode 9
mad men - shut the door. have a seat, season 3 episode 13
the wire - middle ground - season 3, episode 11
breaking bad - ozymandias, season 5, episode 14
lost - through the looking glass, season 3, episode 22

I'd take The Suitcase over Shut the Door, but I'd pick the same for Wire and BrBa.

[dre2142]

HBO making a Shutter Island pre-quel.

[dre2142]

Anyone watching the BBC show "Intruders" Watched the first episode and it was intense. Im in for now.

[dre2142]

Soprano wasn't dead. Chase confirmed it.

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Soprano wasn't dead. Chase confirmed it.

Glad there is some closure on this. Personally, I thought he didn't die but I wasn't that huge of a fan of the show.

[smokew11]

if he didnt die then the ending was absolutely fucked

[dre2142]

now hes backtracking....

A journalist for Vox misconstrued what David Chase said in their interview. To simply quote David as saying," Tony Soprano is not dead," is inaccurate. There is a much larger context for that statement and as such, it is not true. As David Chase has said numerous times on the record, "Whether Tony Soprano is alive or dead is not the point." To continue to search for this answer is fruitless. The final scene of The Sopranos raises a spiritual question that has no right or wrong answer.

This is something of a classic non-denial denial. Chase is not contesting that he said Tony isn't dead. He is contesting a broader, and unmentioned, context (and, indeed, Chase has tiptoed up to the edge of the line of providing a definitive answer as to the final scene numerous times before, before retreating as quickly as possible). It would not be the first time a source went a bit further than they meant to on the record. Nor would it be the first time Chase has answered a question about one of the central ambiguities of the series in frustration, just because he's sick of being asked about it.
But Chase is right that it is the context the quote is in that matters here. And the context Nochimson puts Chase's quote in is almost identical to what Chase's publicist says.

Says Chase's publicist:

"As David Chase has said numerous times on the record, ‘Whether Tony Soprano is alive or dead is not the point.' To continue to search for this answer is fruitless. The final scene of The Sopranos raises a spiritual question that has no right or wrong answer."

And writes Nochimson:

"Though you wouldn't know it from watching Hollywood movies, endings are by nature mysterious. There is the instability of loss in an ending as well as the satisfying sense of completion. American television before Chase, with the exception of David Lynch's Twin Peaks, one of Chase's avowed key inspirations for the art of The Sopranos, built a craft that dispenses with the destabilizing aspects of an ending. The true art of closure will not tolerate such a boring decision. Moreover, the art of closure forbids merely telling the audience in words that there is loss, since words can create the illusion of safety and control. Chase's art seeks a silent level of knowing more profound than words. He believes we already know if we open up to that deeper part of us."

The entire point of Nochimson's essay is that even though Chase answered her query about Tony's death, it doesn't matter. If the fictional character of Tony Soprano lives or dies is not the point, because The Sopranos itself is no more. Somewhere, the characters live on, even if Tony is not among their number. But we don't get to see what they're up to.

The story, of course, has been boiled down — even by us — to the one sentence where Chase finally answers Nochimson point blank, despite the presence of an entire piece discussing Chase's background, his influences, and our lack of comfort with ambiguity in storytelling. This makes sense, because we're in the news business, and what's newsworthy here is Chase appearing to confirm something many have long suspected.

But even if Chase had never issued a statement, or even if he had issued a statement saying, "I meant every word!" it would not have quelled the debate about The Sopranos' finale. Nor should it have. The thing about the endings of TV series is that many of us watch them with a sort of anticipation that they will "answer"

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by smokew11

if he didnt die then the ending was absolutely fucked

Why would you say this?

[coldengrey12]

I saw that Vox article and I thought, "I bet there's more to this story." Chase has been pretty committed to not saying either way.

I prefer the ambiguity at this point.

[chadizzy1]

excited about this:
http://www.people.com/article/tick-p...turning-amazon

used to love this show.