Standing Rock Action Needed to Help

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by justink

i mean... how do you think electricity is made?

answer: fossil fuels.

Depends on where you live. In my state we get over 70% of our electricity from hydroelectric sources.

[Useliteski]

Originally Posted by Route_2

Depends on where you live. In my state we get over 70% of our electricity from hydroelectric sources.

100%

and hydro/solar is only getting more popular. fossil fuels are not.

[jcc522]

Nuclear is awesome and how I get my electricity. I wish people weren't so scared of it.

[aoeiifreak]

Originally Posted by jcc522

Nuclear is awesome and how I get my electricity. I wish people weren't so scared of it.

Sharon Harris, a whole bunch of steam and a little nuclear waste goes a long way.

[Useliteski]

nuclear is very efficient and when the waste is disposed of properly, it's pretty safe. def not opposed to it.

[justink]

nuclear is awesome. but the libs hate it. it's a dying option... because of all the uneducated opposition.

[DMBstandUP1984]

The three mile island accident and Chernobyl probably didn't help.

I like nuclear as an option but I understand people's concern and why it will probably never happen

[justink]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

The three mile island accident and Chernobyl probably didn't help.

I like nuclear as an option but I understand people's concern and why it will probably never happen

yeah, and car crashes happen every day, yet those same hypocrites still drive to work, right?

we're light years away from those accidents in regards to technology. not that accidents can't happen, but many things are now mitigated more effectively.

[Tiduwho]

How do we still not have Fusion Power? Didn't we have it by now in Sim City 2000?

[justink]

Originally Posted by Tiduwho

How do we still not have Fusion Power? Didn't we have it by now in Sim City 2000?

we have it. in supercolliders.

we just can't harness it.

i'm more afraid of fusion than anything else... if something goes bad, it goes REALLY bad. the idea of fusion is that you're burning elements. stars use fusion to be stars. stars die when all elements are burned. stars have more elements to burn than Earth. if we ever really were able to harness fusion, and there was a chernobyl type accident, it would kill the entire planet near instantly in a runaway reaction.

[DMBstandUP1984]

Originally Posted by justink

yeah, and car crashes happen every day, yet those same hypocrites still drive to work, right?



we're light years away from those accidents in regards to technology. not that accidents can't happen, but many things are now mitigated more effectively.

Eh it's more then accidents that turned people off from Nuclear.

Vice did a pretty good show on nuclear energy

[kbail1230]

Originally Posted by justink

i mean... how do you think electricity is made?

answer: fossil fuels.

they're feeding you a bowl of bullshit to line pockets. and then fanatics cause problems. blowing up pipelines. leaving you without electricity...

Not necessarily! I installed many off grid solar projects in Vermont with my old boss John's company called Central Vermont Solar and Wind. In fact, John has been living off the grid for over 30 years using wind and solar on a residential scale. Yes, he does burn fossil fuel in a generator during the winter to recharge his batteries, but its only a dozen gallons or so per year. His house is state of the art with a washing machine, freezer, computer, etc. His not sacrificing his comforts to rely mainly on renewables for electricity.

It all goes back to putting more resources into renewables so that we can ween away from fossil fuels. It's a slow process. Some people think oil is more dangerous than others, from a climate change point of view. From a pollution point of view, we should be moving in this direction anyhow. Cancer is a known outcome from many fossil fuels pollutants. Why pollute our water? Why breath shit air when we know things can be done differently/better?

[DavefaninNZ]

Originally Posted by justink

we have it. in supercolliders.

we just can't harness it.

i'm more afraid of fusion than anything else... if something goes bad, it goes REALLY bad. the idea of fusion is that you're burning elements. stars use fusion to be stars. stars die when all elements are burned. stars have more elements to burn than Earth. if we ever really were able to harness fusion, and there was a chernobyl type accident, it would kill the entire planet near instantly in a runaway reaction.

This sounded like BS when I read it. A quick internet search confirmed my beliefs.

Unlike a fission reaction, loss of control mechanisms in a fusion reactor (heat and pressure) will not result in a runaway nuclear chain reaction. Fusion reactions cannot sustain themselves without that incredible amount of heat and pressure but fission reactions will continue to occur long after you lose control or power in a fission reactor.

https://www.quora.com/Is-a-nuclear-fusion-reactor-safe

http://www.triplepundit.com/special/...wer-pros-cons/

[MrCrowley]

http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/S...412954433.html

The irony of protesting for the environment only to leave a ridiculous amount of garbage which, if not removed now, will become toxic... let alone how many diesel powered trucks are having to take the long way around to dispose of it properly is amazing.

[jmc419]

Originally Posted by MrCrowley

http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/S...412954433.html

The irony of protesting for the environment only to leave a ridiculous amount of garbage which, if not removed now, will become toxic... let alone how many diesel powered trucks are having to take the long way around to dispose of it properly is amazing.

I thought this was comical as well. Environmentalists huh? This was nothing more than a politically driven protest.

[justink]

where are all the 'water protectors'? that shit is gonna be horrible for the river when it melts.

shouldn't this be their job?

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by jmc419

I thought this was comical as well. Environmentalists huh? This was nothing more than a politically driven protest.

I absolutely agree.

[jmkratt]

They think they might find bodies in there? Cripes.

[Useliteski]

not surprising that this is going through. people only care about corporate money in the USA. why don't our leaders just come out and be blunt with us. they want to destroy everything until nothing is left, all for a nice paycheck.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

not surprising that this is going through. people only care about corporate money in the USA. why don't our leaders just come out and be blunt with us. they want to destroy everything until nothing is left, all for a nice paycheck.

Don't worry about it. Jesus is coming back soon.

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by aoeiifreak

Sharon Harris, a whole bunch of steam and a little nuclear waste goes a long way.

http://i.imgur.com/Iy4wwa3.jpg

[mr.MikeD]

Stumpjumper?

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by mr.MikeD

Stumpjumper?

Yup. '13. I love it.

[jmkratt]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...arbage-behind/

Pathetic.

[justink]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...arbage-behind/

Pathetic.

i mean...

all the sane people knew how this was gonna end, right?

[Foreverford05]

At this point, why not just leave all that shit there? Either the protesters can clean up after themselves or those whose land it resides can deal with it until they've had enough and tell the protesters to stop coming.

[dreamingrace]

I think that it would have been a good compromise to reroute..

[jmc419]

But, puppies?! Really?!