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Old 01-06-2010, 08:12 AM   #31
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Re: Steve Lillywhite - "Found MacHead"

hahaha can't wait to see how this one turns out...
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    Re: Steve Lillywhite - "Found MacHead"

    I really hope people don't bombard him about this, he's already done more than anyone would expect i'm sure by talking about it and then twittering he found it, I am kinda excited about this, also for next week, should it happen, anyone have a good way to record the show to get an mp3 of it instead of having to listen to the stream of the show that you can't fast forward, just saying
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    Re: Steve Lillywhite - "Found MacHead"

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    I really hope people don't bombard him about this, he's already done more than anyone would expect i'm sure by talking about it and then twittering he found it, I am kinda excited about this, also for next week, should it happen, anyone have a good way to record the show to get an mp3 of it instead of having to listen to the stream of the show that you can't fast forward, just saying
    sorry, but he will be and he should know that people are gonna be all over him. you dont just say something like that and expect people to not ask him about it
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    sorry, but he will be and he should know that people are gonna be all over him. you dont just say something like that and expect people to not ask him about it
    i really don't think he has any idea what this "means" to a lot of people. i mean, he brainfarted on boyd's name yesterday, a guy from a band he worked with for years. i think he has no clue that Machead has become a "holy grail" of sorts, all pretty much based on a written tracklist and one of his very own quotes. there's no reason for him to think it's anything more than a curious oddity at this point- i just can't imagine he is even remotely aware of the "history" the song has taken on.

    maybe, just maybe, he is more in-tune with the fanbase and what playing this tune would do for the community, but i wouldn't take that bet.
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    i really don't think he has any idea what this "means" to a lot of people. i mean, he brainfarted on boyd's name yesterday, a guy from a band he worked with for years. i think he has no clue that Machead has become a "holy grail" of sorts, all pretty much based on a written tracklist and one of his very own quotes. there's no reason for him to think it's anything more than a curious oddity at this point- i just can't imagine he is even remotely aware of the "history" the song has taken on.
    Have you seen how many bands / acts this guy works with? He hasn't had contact with the band in 10 years or so.. is it really so bad that he momentarily couldn't think of one member's name?

    Also.. he mentioned that he knows its something the fanbase has been wanting to hear. He knows.
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    Prove it, because all facts point to the exact opposite being true. Nothing they've done post-Lillywhite touches the Big Three, and there's a strong argument to be made that LWS is better than BWGK.

    And even if all that is true, just calling the guy a name for no reason whatsoever is a pretty stupid thing to do.
    I agree with you here, totally.

    BWGK is good, but DMB in the Lillywhite area were a different level.
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    Have you seen how many bands / acts this guy works with? He hasn't had contact with the band in 10 years or so.. is it really so bad that he momentarily couldn't think of one member's name?
    no, i understand that, and it's not like he completely forgot- it just took a few extra seconds is all. perfectly understandable. i was just using it as an example that dmb isn't exactly at the top of his headspace.

    still, i'm not convinced he knows the enormity this tune has taken on over the years. he might know people are interested- more than one person did ask about it yesterday- but i'm not sure he knows the scope.

    if he proves me wrong, then he's even more cool in my mind.
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    I think Lillywhite has "some" idea what the song means. He did say on the radio that he was going to look for the "Legendary" machead. So, i think if he said that, and the very next morning he finds it buried under tons of tapes and things that he actively searched for it. Then he tweets about how he found it. And if he went through all that, im guessing he'd love to play it for all the "New" fans of his radio show. I'd say our chances our VERY good that he'd play it, barring any sort of DMB blockage of it. Just my thought anyway.
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    no, i understand that, and it's not like he completely forgot- it just took a few extra seconds is all. perfectly understandable. i was just using it as an example that dmb isn't exactly at the top of his headspace.

    still, i'm not convinced he knows the enormity this tune has taken on over the years. he might know people are interested- more than one person did ask about it yesterday- but i'm not sure he knows the scope.

    if he proves me wrong, then he's even more cool in my mind.
    Cool.. sorry for misunderstanding.

    Listen to the entirety of what he said.. it left me with the impression he's extremely aware of what people think of him, and that Machead is an item of insatiable curiosity by the fanbase.
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    i really don't think he has any idea what this "means" to a lot of people. i mean, he brainfarted on boyd's name yesterday, a guy from a band he worked with for years. i think he has no clue that Machead has become a "holy grail" of sorts, all pretty much based on a written tracklist and one of his very own quotes. there's no reason for him to think it's anything more than a curious oddity at this point- i just can't imagine he is even remotely aware of the "history" the song has taken on.

    maybe, just maybe, he is more in-tune with the fanbase and what playing this tune would do for the community, but i wouldn't take that bet.
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    I do expect that everyone who said they "didn't care about Machead" back when Jake said he heard it will ignore this and not listen/download it should it become available right?


    Go Steve, go!
    No offense, but how does this make any sense? In that poll, I voted that I didn't care about MacHead because it means nothing to me if it comes out or it doesn't. However, if it's available, I'll listen to it.

    Edit: Lillywhite seems pretty awesome, especially going out of his way to find this for the fans.
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    He did say on the radio that he was going to look for the "Legendary" machead.
    I must've missed that part.

    Regardless, this is all a pretty great development that no one saw coming. If this does see the light of day, anyone who's ever wanted to hear machead should give the guy who started the east village radio thread some big fuckin props.
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    Re: Steve Lillywhite - "Found MacHead"

    Something tells me the Red Light will bring the hammer down on this. I can't see them actually approving of it being played. That's money out the window for them plain and simple. That said, it might prompt a B-sides release to come quicker than we expected.
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    Isn't it out of RLM's control? It's just a demo from a studio session, not a song that was officially released or anything. If RLM drops the hammer on this solely because they don't want us to hear it (which I highly doubt is the case) then that'd be pretty lame. I at least want to hear what all the hype is about.
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    dude, the band was frustrated...they werent going to fire eachother. there was only one person to look to, and they blamed it in SL. pretty plain and simple if you ask me.

    Steve wanted to push the boys to work really hard....but DMB is one of the laziest bands ever soooo.
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    dude, the band was frustrated...they werent going to fire eachother. there was only one person to look to, and they blamed it in SL. pretty plain and simple if you ask me.

    Steve wanted to push the boys to work really hard....but DMB is one of the laziest bands ever soooo.
    I hope this is a joke.
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    No offense, but how does this make any sense? In that poll, I voted that I didn't care about MacHead because it means nothing to me if it comes out or it doesn't. However, if it's available, I'll listen to it.

    Edit: Lillywhite seems pretty awesome, especially going out of his way to find this for the fans.
    No offense taken. I was referring to people who were acting like douches about the whole thing back then, calling Jake a liar and saying that they don't give a shit about the song. I just think that's silly. We're all DMB fans, and I find it hard to believe a true fan wouldn't want to hear this song, finished or not. Even just out of curiosity! I think people were just reacting out of jealousy.
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    dude, the band was frustrated...they werent going to fire eachother. there was only one person to look to, and they blamed it in SL. pretty plain and simple if you ask me.

    Steve wanted to push the boys to work really hard....but DMB is one of the laziest bands ever soooo.

    Orrrrr....lillywhite's well had run dry
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    Prove it, because all facts point to the exact opposite being true. Nothing they've done post-Lillywhite touches the Big Three, and there's a strong argument to be made that LWS is better than BWGK.

    And even if all that is true, just calling the guy a name for no reason whatsoever is a pretty stupid thing to do.

    ha i said they have the "potential" to make big 3 music, and thats a fact because if you have done something before then it is possible to do it again. Sorry i hurt steve's and apparently your feelings BWGK is better than LWS in my opinion, it does however rank #4 behind the big three to me though. I dont wanna argue about this, and i apologize for starting this, i just dont buy into the bullshit that the band needs lillywhite to succeed.
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    Just a thought, but if management does not want this played, making 3-5 threads on the bands biggest forum, which is most likely atleast glanced at by people connected to the band probably isn't the best idea, and most likely the best way to get this stopped before it gets played. Just $.02......
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    No offense taken. I was referring to people who were acting like douches about the whole thing back then, calling Jake a liar and saying that they don't give a shit about the song. I just think that's silly. We're all DMB fans, and I find it hard to believe a true fan wouldn't want to hear this song, finished or not. Even just out of curiosity! I think people were just reacting out of jealousy.


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    I hope we'll hear it. It would be a fun time to solve the so-called "myth". To most of the people, it doesn't mean anything, but some are burning to hear it. It wouldn't do any harm to the band, we've all heard half-ready songs and song sketches, no money would be lost for anyone but it would make a lot of people happy. Those who don't give a shit have every right not to do so, but to some it would actually mean something, me included. And although I do not count on hearing it next time, I still hope we will.
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    I'll repost what I wrote elsewhere so as not to re-type what was already too much the first time:

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    Unless management pre-emptively contacts Lillywhite and tells him NOT to play it, if he digs up the old cassette, I can totally see him doing it. I don't think it WILL happen, but I could see it happening. It'd be like Stefan or someone playing it on a radio interview show just for the heck of it. SHOULD he do it? Probably not. Are they going to sue the guy who produced the track for playing it from an old cassette-source that was sitting in a box under a bunch of junk via webcast'ed radio program at 128kbps? I doubt it.

    Does he have the right to release it or something legally? I can't imagine that he does. But I could completely see him just playing it once for the heck of it.

    Now if they contact him ahead of time (as in, they got word that he even suggested that he needed to "dig it up") then I could see there being a problem.

    Still, it's a song relatively few people care about. WE might care about it, but in the scheme of things, releases, etc, how many HARDCORE fans are there that would still NOT buy it anyways?

    Think of it like this -- I buy pretty much everything they put out. Even if Lillywhite played it and it SUCKS, I'm still going to buy the set down the road that they ultimately throw it on. Once they officially release it, it will be leaked or pirated on release day or in the days before. That being said, anyone who would buy PURELY based on Machead and is THAT hardcore would most likely have heard it on Youtube or whereever via the leak.

    My point is this --- I cannot IMAGINE sales of an eventual EP or boxset containing (among other things) Machead being hurt by Lillywhite playing the song. I mean, if someone's purchase depended on their liking that ONE track, they wouldn't blind buy to begin with, would hear it elsewhere upon its release and then still NOT buy it if they thought it sucked.

    That's my thinking anyways.

    EDIT: Also, if he really hyped the show and made a big deal ahead of time, I could see a problem. But if he just gets a whim and throws it up, I don't see any massive fallout.

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    Oh, and the song will NEVER live up to the hype. There's just no way. And that's not a bad thing. It could be #41, Part 2 (#42?) quality-wise and it STILL wouldn't live up to the hype and I don't care. That wouldn't make me any less interested to hear it or any other unreleased song or demo version of existing songs he might throw out there.
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    I think Machead is WAY more important to a small group of hardcores than it is to anyone in the band or management (or Lillywhite). If he plays it, they'll shrug and move on with their day. At most, I could see them sending a friendly letter reminding him that he doesn't OWN the material and can't offer unreleased material for download and then him or the station editing it out of the archive or something later on...which is why I will be recording it LIVE at the house on the SLIM CHANCE that he actually plays something of interest.
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    Just a thought, but if management does not want this played, making 3-5 threads on the bands biggest forum, which is most likely atleast glanced at by people connected to the band probably isn't the best idea, and most likely the best way to get this stopped before it gets played. Just $.02......
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    thanks ZackR good point(s)
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    This may be the closest the community has come to hearing MacHead, ever. This is our best shot.
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    When does his show air again?
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    When does his show air again?
    Tuesdays from 2-4 EST.
    http://www.eastvillageradio.com/show...4&showid=48296

    If he opens it up, I'm calling in next week.
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    Re: Steve Lillywhite - "Found MacHead"

    What Zack said.

    But also, this thought had crossed my mind as well:

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    Just a thought, but if management does not want this played, making 3-5 threads on the bands biggest forum, which is most likely atleast glanced at by people connected to the band probably isn't the best idea, and most likely the best way to get this stopped before it gets played. Just $.02......
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    Re: Steve Lillywhite - "Found MacHead"

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    Tuesdays from 2-4 EST.
    http://www.eastvillageradio.com/show...4&showid=48296

    If he opens it up, I'm calling in next week.
    Yesterday'sshowwas great, I caught in when he was talking about Tim and getting stoned w/ him. Good god, if he just randomly plays this next week!!!!!
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