Official Fuck the Police thread

[uro55]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

police offer did more to fuck me over than he did to help me. i know he's doing is job, but i would have liked to explain my situation a bit more before being handed a fine.

He wasn't try to help you or fuck you, he was just doing what he's paid to do.

It blows having to pay that as a college student, but whether you're a college student or Bill Gates, you still in the simplest of terms, broke the same law

[Useliteski]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Why assume that you are going to have to pay? I still find it hard to believe that it is a 250-500 dollar fine.
Do some research regarding that offense in your city- you may have other options to pursue. Like pleading guilty and hoping for probation of some sort and a lowered fine (or just court fees assessed). Maybe you can do community service in lieu of a monetary fine.
You could always reach out to the officer as well.

hope so! i don't really have the time for bullshit like that but i am in APO and we do community service all the time so i could just pretend im doing it for that if thats what i am told i have to do.

Originally Posted by uro55

He wasn't try to help you or fuck you, he was just doing what he's paid to do.

It blows having to pay that as a college student, but whether you're a college student or Bill Gates, you still in the simplest of terms, broke the same law

for sure man. life haha

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by jordanbball17

Most cops aren't assholes, people just view them as that because their job inherently involves getting you in trouble (legally and justifiably).

I recently got a DUI (biggest mistake of my life), but I was polite and cooperative with the police officer I was with for the next 5 hours. I'm a CJ major, so I also asked him millions of questions and eventually we talked about music and other stuff (he had Radiohead's OK Computer-big plus ). He even dropped me off at my house at the end of the night. I got a lawyer, and am also appealing the DOL license suspension. Just learned that the officer didn't even send in his police report to the DOL (very odd) and he used a template to write up the charges that is outdated by more than a decade. I have no doubt in my mind that the officer, in his own way, helped me out by doing that, while not risking his own job status in the slightest.

Moral of the story: it helps to be cooperative and not be a drunken asshole.

So its okay for an LEO to purposely help someone get out of a serious charge?

[jcc522]

I like police for the most part; they're just trying to go home at the end of the day like the rest of us. The cops that think their badge makes them invincible piss me off. Also ones that indirectly threaten to arrest me to scare me from doing something perfectly legal can go to hell.

[Jimi Thing 10]

Originally Posted by jcc522

I like police for the most part; they're just trying to go home at the end of the day like the rest of us. The cops that think their badge makes them invincible piss me off. Also ones that indirectly threaten to arrest me to scare me from doing something perfectly legal can go to hell.

Is there a story here?

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Jimi Thing 10

Is there a story here?

oh geez...in before the "i carry my pistol on my hip" story

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by dre2142

oh geez...in before the "i carry my pistol on my hip" story

You're cool

[Jimi Thing 10]

Originally Posted by dre2142

oh geez...in before the "i carry my pistol on my hip" story

Ooohh, that makes sense.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

You're cool

truth....

[jordanbball17]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

So its okay for an LEO to purposely help someone get out of a serious charge?

I'm not getting out of any charge. I will always have been arrested and charged with a DUI, no matter what happened afterward. And regardless, I will be convicted of something, if it's a DUI or a Negligent Driving First Degree.

In my opinion, he was just softening the blow that these charges are going to do to the rest of my life while at the same time allowing a punishment to be served.

As to your question, it depends on the circumstances.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by jordanbball17

I'm not getting out of any charge. I will always have been arrested and charged with a DUI, no matter what happened afterward. And regardless, I will be convicted of something, if it's a DUI or a Negligent Driving First Degree.

In my opinion, he was just softening the blow that these charges are going to do to the rest of my life while at the same time allowing a punishment to be served.

As to your question, it depends on the circumstances.

Professional courtesy?
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cus&id=8371859

I am not trying to make light of your situation, because it obviously sounds like you understand you made a mistake, and are trying to deal with it the best you can. I just wanted to highlight it because there are a lot of people who've posted, and a lot of people who believe that LEOs "just enforce the laws", when your situation makes it clear, LEOs can choose to enforce laws

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Professional courtesy?
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cus&id=8371859

I am not trying to make light of your situation, because it obviously sounds like you understand you made a mistake, and are trying to deal with it the best you can. I just wanted to highlight it because there are a lot of people who've posted, and a lot of people who believe that LEOs "just enforce the laws", when your situation makes it clear, LEOs can choose to enforce laws

Cant win with you when it comes to law enforcement.

Its called discretion.

Could have the cop used discretion and made the OP pour out his beer and send him on his way? Sure.

Does an officer write a ticket every single time they pull someone over for speeding? No.

Did the officer mess up the paperwork on purpose in regards to the DUI sitaution? Doubtful. Is it possible? Yeah, but its the long way around things, and its highly unlikely.

Jordanball-getting arrested and charged is totally different than being convicted of DUI. That that difference seriously. What was your BAC?

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by Jimi Thing 10

Is there a story here?

yes, see below

Originally Posted by dre2142

oh geez...in before the "i carry my pistol on my hip" story

I'm sorry that a legally carried handgun upsets you.


There is a gas station a few blocks from the resturaunt I worked at this past summer. I'd go in there probably every other night or so and am on a first name basis with the owner and his wife. One particular cop told the owner that if he sees me carrying in the gas station he is going to "put me in the cuffs". Next time I went in and when I was leaving, Frank(owner) stopped me and told me what the officer said, and also told me that he doesnt care if I do, and actually likes that I carry. Saturday I rode my bike to the gas station, as I was leaving the cop rode by slowly with the window down and tried to stare me down. I took my sun glasses off and stare right back thru his soul. He didnt do a damn thing and I rode home.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Cant win with you when it comes to law enforcement.

Its called discretion.

Could have the cop used discretion and made the OP pour out his beer and send him on his way? Sure.

Does an officer write a ticket every single time they pull someone over for speeding? No.

Did the officer mess up the paperwork on purpose in regards to the DUI sitaution? Doubtful. Is it possible? Yeah, but its the long way around things, and its highly unlikely.

Jordanball-getting arrested and charged is totally different than being convicted of DUI. That that difference seriously. What was your BAC?

I don't think there is anything wrong with discretion, in fact I favor it. I was just pointing out that a lot of people use the excuse that law enforcement just enforce the laws, when that isn't true

[uro55]

Originally Posted by jcc522

I'm sorry that a legally carried handgun upsets you.

Upsets a lot of people

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by uro55

Upsets a lot of people

mostly criminals

[jordanbball17]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Professional courtesy?
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cus&id=8371859

I am not trying to make light of your situation, because it obviously sounds like you understand you made a mistake, and are trying to deal with it the best you can. I just wanted to highlight it because there are a lot of people who've posted, and a lot of people who believe that LEOs "just enforce the laws", when your situation makes it clear, LEOs can choose to enforce laws

Exactly. Police officers are the gatekeepers of the CJ system, quite literally. They choose who to let in and who gets to walk free. Discretion is a HUGE part of our justice system.

Originally Posted by dre2142

Cant win with you when it comes to law enforcement.

Its called discretion.

Could have the cop used discretion and made the OP pour out his beer and send him on his way? Sure.

Does an officer write a ticket every single time they pull someone over for speeding? No.

Did the officer mess up the paperwork on purpose in regards to the DUI sitaution? Doubtful. Is it possible? Yeah, but its the long way around things, and its highly unlikely.

Jordanball-getting arrested and charged is totally different than being convicted of DUI. That that difference seriously. What was your BAC?

Yes, I know. That's why I said what I did in my previous post. I'm saying that I'm going to (most likely) be convicted of negligent driving first degree, as opposed to being convicted of the DUI. But what I was trying to tell the other poster was that I'm still "arrested and charged" for DUI regardless of what happens from here on out. Trust me, as a CJ major, my life is full of irony right now I'm just disappointed in myself that this is what had to happen for me to wake up and stop letting my life get off track.

My BAC was .099. I didn't get pulled over because of how I was driving, it was because my headlights were off. I literally went about 10 feet before they pulled me over.

[uro55]

Originally Posted by jcc522

mostly criminals

Not so much

[Useliteski]

every time i see this thread i make this face
http://sp11-internetlanguage.wikispa...-Ming-meme.jpg

honestly i just want this to go away. i should just mail the court a check

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by uro55

Upsets a lot of people

He knows exactly what my stance on the subject is.........

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by jordanbball17

Yes, I know. That's why I said what I did in my previous post. I'm saying that I'm going to (most likely) be convicted of negligent driving first degree, as opposed to being convicted of the DUI. But what I was trying to tell the other poster was that I'm still "arrested and charged" for DUI regardless of what happens from here on out. Trust me, as a CJ major, my life is full of irony right now I'm just disappointed in myself that this is what had to happen for me to wake up and stop letting my life get off track.

.

Ah, understood now. I put a tour in with BCPD (tour, since it was basically a war zone on my post) Good luck with that....is going to be tough for you moving forward into this career. What is it that you are aiming to do?

[ProudestAnt]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

i had been drinking but i wouldn't say i was drunk. i was with a big group of people heading to this really fun dance club a little bit off campus and a cop just happen to see me. i was polite with him and he gave me a little paper saying i had to appear in court. He also mentioned that they have to do this because they get complaints all the time by people who throw bottles and break them etc.. obviously causing quite the mess. I assured him that these weren't my intentions, and i would have been glad to just give him the beer and be on my way, not causing any trouble, but i guess it is his job...Also, the cop didn't really even tell me what was gonna become of this, but i hope it's just a fine and nothing more.

Where in NY do you go to school?

[Useliteski]

Originally Posted by ProudestAnt

Where in NY do you go to school?

st. lawrence university in upstate new york

[ProudestAnt]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

st. lawrence university in upstate new york

I know a few people that went to St. Lawrence. I went to Brockport. We had a judge that use to make kids get letters from their parents and go to two AA meetings if they got a ticket for open container or drunk in public or underage drinking. It was hilarious to just go to the court and watch the reactions on kids faces. Imagine an 18 year old kid in front of a judge telling him he needs to get a letter from his parents that explained they were told about the underage drinking ticket...

[Useliteski]

Originally Posted by ProudestAnt

I know a few people that went to St. Lawrence. I went to Brockport. We had a judge that use to make kids get letters from their parents and go to two AA meetings if they got a ticket for open container or drunk in public or underage drinking. It was hilarious to just go to the court and watch the reactions on kids faces. Imagine an 18 year old kid in front of a judge telling him he needs to get a letter from his parents that explained they were told about the underage drinking ticket...

im 21 though. i purchased the beer legally. cop didn't breathalyze me so he has no record i was even above the legal limit in terms of intoxication. as far as he's concerned, the beer i had was the only alcoholic beer i had all night. we were also walking.

[ProudestAnt]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

im 21 though. i purchased the beer legally. cop didn't breathalyze me so he has no record i was even above the legal limit in terms of intoxication. as far as he's concerned, the beer i had was the only alcoholic beer i had all night. we were also walking.

Oh I know, I gathered from your story that you were of age. Chances are in a situation like that, you may be looking at a more unorthodox type of punishment, like the one I mentioned, which is why I brought it up. Or you'll just get hit with a fine. Either way. But my point was it may be something obscure if it's in a college town and the cops really don't want to give the tickets, but feel like they have to...

[Useliteski]

Originally Posted by ProudestAnt

Oh I know, I gathered from your story that you were of age. Chances are in a situation like that, you may be looking at a more unorthodox type of punishment, like the one I mentioned, which is why I brought it up. Or you'll just get hit with a fine. Either way. But my point was it may be something obscure if it's in a college town and the cops really don't want to give the tickets, but feel like they have to...

well i guess we will find out. if it's AA meetings, that would actually be amusing . i've always been curious what kind of bullshit goes down at those meetings. i'll take that over a fine considering my financial situation as a college student

[aronofsky41]

I legally carry my tommy gun, see?

I got my papers right here, see?

[Mateo2k]

Originally Posted by Useliteski

i just dont wanna be fined this much. thats my only complaint here. i wasn't bothering anybody and i didn't pose any large threat to the community, so a confiscation of my beer and a warning would have steered me in the right direction for sure. i forgot i was even holding the beer when i was walking with my friends. it had like 2-3 small sips left in it at least.

i'm a broke college student, and all my income is going towards paying for school. this fine is a big deal to me. this police offer did more to fuck me over than he did to help me. i know he's doing is job, but i would have liked to explain my situation a bit more before being handed a fine. Maybe i'll have a chance to do that in court? who knows

So what is the appropriate fine for breaking the law? You have to agree that it should be more than just taking your beer, patting you on your butt as you skip away.

[Useliteski]

Originally Posted by Mateo2k

So what is the appropriate fine for breaking the law? You have to agree that it should be more than just taking your beer, patting you on your butt as you skip away.

but it should not be as much as fucking up my entire year financial wise.

you do agree with this right?

i can tell you are a conservative without even having to ask you...