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Old 03-28-2011, 06:13 AM   #48871
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It doesnt appear to be occasional.

If its me, I'd be real sick and tired of losing to vastly inferior teams when I have national championship talent on my roster. But then again, i'm the guy who would rather lose in the first round than make it all the way to the title game and not win.
maybe the issue isn't their coach, but their player's ego. the coach isn't the one missing FT's and getting out played.
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    It doesnt appear to be occasional.

    If its me, I'd be real sick and tired of losing to vastly inferior teams when I have national championship talent on my roster. But then again, i'm the guy who would rather lose in the first round than make it all the way to the title game and not win.
    I'm pretty close to you on that thought.
    If you're not in it all, if you don't win it all, what's the difference?
    Sure, it can help recruiting if you can brag about Elite Eight / FInal Four / Championship game appearances, but at the end of the day losing is losing, no matter which round.

    I care more about if the team that beat my team is still in it and winning it all than where my team lost. I'd rather lose in the 2nd and have Butler still be a contender, then lose in the SS and have Zona out of it.

    And, at least nobody thought my team was going to win it all ....
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:14 AM   #48873
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    It doesnt appear to be occasional.
    it happens just as often as making the Elite Eight does.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:16 AM   #48874
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    Congrats to Kentucky. Hit every big shot when it mattered (every big shot period, really).

    I'm prepared for Barnes to leave; obviously hope he stays. Really hope Henson stays; not 100% hopeful. Would be crushed if Zeller left. I hate that every single twitter post, whispered rumor, blogger who wants to increase pageviews, and "source close to the player" is going to have me on the edge of my seat for the next month, but such is life.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:16 AM   #48875
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    I'm pretty close to you on that thought.
    If you're not in it all, if you don't win it all, what's the difference?
    Sure, it can help recruiting if you can brag about Elite Eight / FInal Four / Championship game appearances, but at the end of the day losing is losing, no matter which round.
    i guess that explains why Pitt can't bring in top recruits.
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    What a punk. Guess Rodriguez got the last laugh though.
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    maybe the issue isn't their coach, but their player's ego. the coach isn't the one missing FT's and getting out played.
    Karma's a bitch!
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:17 AM   #48877
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    i guess that explains why Pitt can't bring in top recruits.
    No, we just don't pay them.

    Edit: And, seriously - that takes some balls to try to rub something in anybody's face right now.

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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:18 AM   #48878
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    No, we just don't pay them.
    you should call in to local sports talk radio, you'd fit right in. the only reason Pitt can't bring in top recruits is because they're above playing players.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:19 AM   #48879
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    you should call in to local sports talk radio, you'd fit right in. the only reason Pitt can't bring in top recruits is because they're above playing players.
    It was a joke - but, seriously - what bug crawled up your ass this morning? Oh, right. The VCU bug.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:23 AM   #48880
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    It was a joke - but, seriously - what bug crawled up your ass this morning? Oh, right. The VCU bug.
    nah, i was over that yesterday.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:25 AM   #48881
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    Karma's a bitch!
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:25 AM   #48882
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    I'm interested in the Kentucky / UConn game b/c 1) I really hate Kentucky (ok, not Kentucky. Just Calipari. I don't believe he should be allowed to even watch college bball, let alone still coach) 2) I'll root for the Big East any day and 3) the person I hate the most in my bracket (hate in terms of I don't want to see winning it b/c he's a whiney little baby) will win if Kentucky does.

    Mostly, though at this point I'm more interested in the winner's score (of any of these games) ending in 4, loser in 9. Then I'll see some big $$$$$.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:27 AM   #48883
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    It was a joke - but, seriously - what bug crawled up your ass this morning? Oh, right. The VCU bug.
    I love seeing fans of an inferior program talk shit about a team going out in the Elite 8 when they got rolled out in the first weekend... At least Kansas losing was a surprise, I think everyone picked Pittsburgh to be the first #1 to go down.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:29 AM   #48884
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    I love seeing fans of an inferior program talk shit about a team going out in the Elite 8 when they got rolled out in the first weekend... At least Kansas losing was a surprise, I think everyone picked Pittsburgh to be the first #1 to go down.
    Yawn.

    I know, I picked on your coach. It doens't matter what #1 goes down first.
    And, I doubt there are many kids out there that sit and have going to the Elite 8 as their "goal" in college basketball.

    I don't know how you can honestly defend that man, but whatever gets you through March, I guess.
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    Yawn.

    I know, I picked on your coach. It doens't matter what #1 goes down first.
    And, I doubt there are many kids out there that sit and have going to the Elite 8 as their "goal" in college basketball.

    I don't know how you can honestly defend that man, but whatever gets you through March, I guess.
    I'd certainly venture a wager that it's more than those whose goal it is to be ousted in the first round.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:32 AM   #48886
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    I'd certainly venture a wager that it's more than those whose goal it is to be ousted in the first round.
    I'd venture to wager neither are a goal, unless you're just happy you're getting a college scholarship and / or playing DI ball.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:34 AM   #48887
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    Yawn.

    I know, I picked on your coach. It doens't matter what #1 goes down first.
    And, I doubt there are many kids out there that sit and have going to the Elite 8 as their "goal" in college basketball.

    I don't know how you can honestly defend that man, but whatever gets you through March, I guess.
    It does when you want to sit there and run your mouth about a team that not only advanced farther than you in this tournament but is also a better program than yours could ever dream of being.

    As far as Calipari goes, I honestly couldn't care less what you or anyone else says about him. My guess is you've probably read one too many articles on ESPN.com by Pat Forde and have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I wouldn't trade him for any other coach in the nation.

    I guess defending him will not only get me through March, but part of April as well.
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    You are confusing goals with dreams.
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:35 AM   #48889
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    I'd venture to wager neither are a goal, unless you're just happy you're getting a college scholarship and / or playing DI ball.
    aka why any recruit signs with Pittsburgh.
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    Have fun, boys.
    If you think any of this gets to me, find something better to do with your time, b/c you're wasting it.
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    Have fun, boys.
    If you think any of this gets to me, find something better to do with your time, b/c you're wasting it.
    I don't expect you to care. You root for Pittsburgh.
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    It does when you want to sit there and run your mouth about a team that not only advanced farther than you in this tournament but is also a better program than yours could ever dream of being.
    As far as Calipari goes, I honestly couldn't care less what you or anyone else says about him. My guess is you've probably read one too many articles on ESPN.com by Pat Forde and have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I wouldn't trade him for any other coach in the nation.

    I guess defending him will not only get me through March, but part of April as well.
    I was bantering back & forth with Dustin, something we've done in this thread before. I threw out the VCU bug b/c he seemed unusually ass-worthy/ grumpy. But, I'm sure he's glad you have his back.
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    I don't expect you to care. You root for Pittsburgh.
    And, I don't expect you to have a soul. You root for Kentucky. (unless you're Ashley Judd and then you can get away with anything b/c well, you're Ashley Judd).
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    I am with you in being a Pitt fan, because I am too, but to say that you'd rather lose in the first round than in the title game is just a loser's fatalist mentality.
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    I wouldn't trade him for any other coach in the nation.
    exactly how i feel about Bill Self. sure they've taken some pretty bad losses in the tournament, but in order for it to be considered a monumental upset you have to be really good to begin with.

    In his eight seasons at Kansas, the Jayhawks have won more games than any other team in the country, been to four Elite Eights and won a National Title. talk about tournament chokes all you want, but there arean't many programs that wouldn't take that in a hearbeat.
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    And, I don't expect you to have a soul. You root for Kentucky. (unless you're Ashley Judd and then you can get away with anything b/c well, you're Ashley Judd).
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    Old 03-28-2011, 06:46 AM   #48897
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    I am with you in being a Pitt fan, because I am too, but to say that you'd rather lose in the first round than in the title game is just a loser's fatalist mentality.
    Eh, I didn't quite say it as far as Brian did.
    I more mean if you're not in that game and / or win that game, does it really matter where you lose? I more meant that I care more about how you lost / who you lost to than what round you lost in.

    Also - did you see they're putting a Patron in Aspinwall? Not Waterworks plaza, but the next one (where the old Walnut Grove then that pizza place they tried used to be).
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    As of the day my team lost, I wouldn't care where it was, I'd just be mad. But from a historical perspective I'd definitely prefer to get farther. For example, being a Carolina fan, there can be no worse loss than the ass-waxing that Kansas put on us in the final four in 2008. At the time, I would have rather lost a close game in the elite 8 (well, that's not true in this exact instance because I was at that Elite 8 game against Louisville and it would have sucked to have attended a loss, but for argument's sake), but looking back now, no one can take that final four appearance away and it goes down in Carolina's history as being in the final four.

    As far as the Patron is concerned, no I did not know that. Owned/operated by the same people, I assume? That's a tad closer to me so it increases the chances I'll get there some time.
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    For Carolina fans, not a bad read: http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m...032711aab.html
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    And I think the goal is just contiuning to play. Kinda like on the playgrounds (if you have it) for which winner stays. You just want to continue to play and play as long as you can. If this takes you into April, great. If you lose in the second round, well that sucks for you because you can no longer play.
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