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Old 11-04-2016, 01:39 PM   #61
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Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

Someone put out the Doby signal. I want some details on the BD.
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Is the Blu-Ray worth it? Did they actually have HD cameras at the show or will this be up converted from standard definition?
    Did HD cameras exist in 2002?
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    Old 11-04-2016, 01:41 PM   #63
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Don't care. Completely biased because I was there and this is my favorite show out of my 76 and the one release I've always wanted. And it comes with video!
    Same for me, this is absolutely my favorite show I've ever been to. It'll be awesome getting to see James Brown come out, tear the house down, and then the confetti cannons going off at the end.

    Bonus Humblebrag for myself: I threw Carter a Santa Hat that said " Christmas in New York" on it and he put it on and wore it during the encore. I got busted and kicked out of my section right behind the stage, and spent Halloween literally dancing a ring around the arena. SO SO SO EXCITED!
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    Old 11-04-2016, 01:42 PM   #64
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    I have been wanting a new "old school" DVD release for a while. Glad we finally got one pre 2010 in the live trax series. I'm in support of them doing old school DVDs as much as they can.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 01:43 PM   #65
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Did HD cameras exist in 2002?
    I feel like my parents got and HD tv in like 2003 or 04 so maybe
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    Old 11-04-2016, 01:45 PM   #66
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    Blu ray. Fucking finally! Grabbing this.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 01:51 PM   #67
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Someone put out the Doby signal. I want some details on the BD.
    Ask Hilly.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:02 PM   #68
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    So to be clear, since I purchased the Blu-Ray through the WH I am getting:

    Blu-ray version
    2 C/D version
    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax

    Is this correct? If so, that's not bad for what I paid. Couldn't pass up that poster as a New Yorker so I bought that as well.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:04 PM   #69
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    So to be clear, since I purchased the Blu-Ray through the WH I am getting:

    Blu-ray version
    2 C/D version
    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax

    Is this correct? If so, that's not bad for what I paid. Couldn't pass up that poster as a New Yorker so I bought that as well.
    I think the Encore Trax is the 5 track version of the Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax; which has 8 songs. If I read that correctly.

    Still a pretty nice value for the price
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:04 PM   #70
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    So to be clear, since I purchased the Blu-Ray through the WH I am getting:

    Blu-ray version
    2 C/D version
    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax

    Is this correct? If so, that's not bad for what I paid. Couldn't pass up that poster as a New Yorker so I bought that as well.

    My understanding was WH exclusive encore trax is 8 tracks. Normal encore trax is 5. Could be wrong?
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:05 PM   #71
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    Weeeeeeeeeeee
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:09 PM   #72
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    I think the Encore Trax is the 5 track version of the Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax; which has 8 songs. If I read that correctly.

    Still a pretty nice value for the price
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    My understanding was WH exclusive encore trax is 8 tracks. Normal encore trax is 5. Could be wrong?
    Yea, I think you guys are right.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:13 PM   #73
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    So to be clear, since I purchased the Blu-Ray through the WH I am getting:

    Blu-ray version
    2 C/D version
    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax

    Is this correct? If so, that's not bad for what I paid. Couldn't pass up that poster as a New Yorker so I bought that as well.
    You'll be getting 1 Blu-ray disc, and two audio CDs of the concert. In addition, if you ordered through the warehouse, you'll get an 8 song bonus disc. If you did not order through the warehouse, the bonus disc will only have 5 songs.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:13 PM   #74
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    So to be clear, since I purchased the Blu-Ray through the WH I am getting:

    Blu-ray version
    2 C/D version
    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax

    Is this correct? If so, that's not bad for what I paid. Couldn't pass up that poster as a New Yorker so I bought that as well.
    My order breaks down:

    DMB Live Trax Vol. 40 DVD/2-CD or Blu-ray/2-CD
    Encore Trax - WH Edition Bonus Disc

    So yeah, I think it's just 3 additional songs.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:14 PM   #75
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    I do like how they are giving you the CD if you purchase the blu-ray. Wish they would give you a digital copy with your order as well so I could just throw it on my phone.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:16 PM   #76
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    And now I just realized Jones Beach is the cover of the calendar. Now I want that also.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:17 PM   #77
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    One of the top 5 shows I've ever been to. Going to have to order this...
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:17 PM   #78
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    I'm loving the DVD option. Will be nice to see this band in their top form on DVD again.


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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:18 PM   #79
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    Fantastic Choice for a release!!!
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:19 PM   #80
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    You'll be getting 1 Blu-ray disc, and two audio CDs of the concert. In addition, if you ordered through the warehouse, you'll get an 8 song bonus disc. If you did not order through the warehouse, the bonus disc will only have 5 songs.
    Yea, that was my fault for reading incorrectly, although I do think the language on the page is a bit ambiguous. I should have realized though.
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    Yea, that was my fault for reading incorrectly, although I do think the language on the page is a bit ambiguous. I should have realized though.
    Includes:
    - Live Trax Vol. 40 in choice of 1 Blu-ray/2-CD set, 1 DVD/2-CD set or 2-CD set.
    - Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax CD featuring 8 previously unreleased tracks (while supplies last)

    What do you think it should say to clear it up?
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    HD cameras were in existence way before 2002. Common usage (and more specifically, DMB usage) is a whole 'nother story but to answer the question of whether they existed at all, yeah for sure
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Did HD cameras exist in 2002?
    Yes they did. They arrived in the late 90's. But I believe DMB wasn't using HD camera back then...

    Should be interesting.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:30 PM   #84
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Includes:
    - Live Trax Vol. 40 in choice of 1 Blu-ray/2-CD set, 1 DVD/2-CD set or 2-CD set.
    - Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax CD featuring 8 previously unreleased tracks (while supplies last)

    What do you think it should say to clear it up?
    At one point the bonus disc is called "Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour" and later it is called "Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax CD" so I figured they were two separate discs at first. Everyone who preorders gets the "Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour" and those who are WH members get the "Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax CD" as well.

    I see where I was mistaken now though.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:31 PM   #85
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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

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    Includes:
    - Live Trax Vol. 40 in choice of 1 Blu-ray/2-CD set, 1 DVD/2-CD set or 2-CD set.
    - Warehouse Exclusive Encore Trax CD featuring 8 previously unreleased tracks (while supplies last)

    What do you think it should say to clear it up?
    Because right above that it says:

    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Limited in number and available only with pre-order of Live Trax 40. This companion piece is a collection of highlights from the short December 2002 Tour. Available only while supplies last.

    So the user was wondering if the WH members got Encore Trax AND the WH Bonus.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:33 PM   #86
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    Unless it's been discussed somewhere and I missed it, am I the only one seeing that it says 5 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED TRACKS. there's one part that says Encore - 2002 Holiday Tour which is a companion piece with a collection of highlights from the short 2002 Fall Tour. Then after that there's another section that says Encore Trax CD featuring 5 previously unreleased tracks (while supplies last). I looked up the songs played throughout the 2002 Fall Tour and as far as I can tell every one of those songs has been released in some capacity...so...huh???

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    Re: Live Trax Vol. 40 - 12.21.02 Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY

    The ATCS standard was approved for 720p60 and 1080i60 broadcasts in North America in the 90s, HD cameras were in use shortly before Y2K.

    HD cameras were not at 12.21.02, but the $5 premium for the Blu-ray is still worth it because:

    1) Uncompressed (PCM) or lossless (Dolby TrueHD/dts-HD Master Audio) 16/48 surround sound, far superior to 448 Kbps Dolby Digital.

    2) 40 Mbps AVC/MPEG-4 video codec vs. archaic 4-6 Mbps MPEG-2 will result in a cleaner picture devoid of typical DVD artifacting (pixelation, macroblocking, poor shadow detail)

    Non-technical reason: sales may determine whether Blu-ray option is offered for future shows, obviously any new-ish show will have an HD source as Filament have been filming in HD since before 2010.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:35 PM   #88
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    Because right above that it says:

    Encore Trax - 2002 Holiday Tour
    Limited in number and available only with pre-order of Live Trax 40. This companion piece is a collection of highlights from the short December 2002 Tour. Available only while supplies last.

    So the user was wondering if the WH members got Encore Trax AND the WH Bonus.
    Yea, this. I saw where it mentioned the pre-order bonus and figured that was thrown into the package. It also states limited in number so I think that may have also made me think it might not be listed under the included items purposefully as its possible its not included for some people.
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    Unless it's been discussed somewhere and I missed it, am I the only one seeing that it says 5 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED TRACKS. there's one part that says Encore - 2002 Holiday Tour which is a companion piece with a collection of highlights from the short 2002 Fall Tour. Then after that there's another section that says Encore Trax CD featuring 5 previously unreleased tracks (while supplies last). I looked up the songs played throughout the 2002 Fall Tour and as far as I can tell every one of those songs has been released in some capacity...so...huh???
    Previously unreleased, as in, they havent released any of these versions of the songs before. Not the songs themselves.
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    Old 11-04-2016, 02:36 PM   #90
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    Yea, this. I saw where it mentioned the pre-order bonus and figured that was thrown in to the package. It also states limited in number so I think that may have also made me think it might not be listed under the included items purposefully as its possible its not included for some people.
    Yeah it you log out of your account and go to the page it lists:

    Includes:
    - Live Trax Vol. 40 in choice of 1 Blu-ray/2-CD set, 1 DVD/2-CD set or 2-CD set.
    - Encore Trax CD featuring 5 previously unreleased tracks (while supplies last)

    So, it is confusing to WH members when one disc is listed and then a different named CD is listed in the included packing.

    Someone should probably get on that, Hilly.
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