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Old 06-30-2017, 05:29 PM   #61
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Oh definitely. They're not going to play Red Rocks, probably ever again to be honest.

Was just mixing some previous tours with some stops that would stop people from complaining. Biggest complaints are usually lack of west coast stops and no Canada, and the non-stop clamour for RR
If they do indeed do a small (30ish) tour it'll be a shitshow in here for a while once dates come out, and it'll be very interesting to see what venues/markets get left out.
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    If they do indeed do a small (30ish) tour it'll be a shitshow in here for a while once dates come out, and it'll be very interesting to see what venues/markets get left out.
    Hoping they don't shut out NC and VA again like they did this year. Yeah, yeah, it was a D&T tour but you get what I mean. BTBaboon's proposed tour dates are making us southern states feel like redheaded stepchildren. Especially since I would expect that, if you only get one stop in the south, it won't be in NC. With that said, I don't see them skipping VA alltogether. I would fully expect them to play VA Beach if nowhere else.
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    Hoping they don't shut out NC and VA again like they did this year. Yeah, yeah, it was a D&T tour but you get what I mean. BTBaboon's proposed tour dates are making us southern states feel like redheaded stepchildren. Especially since I would expect that, if you only get one stop in the south, it won't be in NC. With that said, I don't see them skipping VA alltogether. I would fully expect them to play VA Beach if nowhere else.
    VA gets at least one and I'd bet NC gets one too. I want the schedule to look like 2015 though. Atlanta early and Charlotte late in the tour. That way i got to see different parts of the tour with minimal travel.
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    Old 07-01-2017, 06:18 AM   #64
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    Just give me 2013 all over again. The spontaneity was great.
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    Old 07-01-2017, 07:06 AM   #65
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    Just give me 2013 all over again. The spontaneity was great.
    I remember going into Camden, Hartford, and Alpine 2013 weekends having absolutely no idea what the band was going to play. There were no obvious songs that were going to be played.

    I want that feeling again....
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    I've brought this up in other threads, but would it be that improbable for DMB to return to some ballparks next year? Especially with the year off, I can see them selling out a night at places like Wrigley or Fenway.
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    Another Raleigh stop would be nice. Sucks it's inconsistent these days. That 09-13 with no Walnut Creek sucked.
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    They will come back with a Before These Crowded Streets 20 year anniversary tour.
    Renditions of the entire album and another 10-13 songs all fan favorites.
    Big variation will be the placement of the songs. Play them as an album together, or sprinkle them through the set?
    If playing them together, play them first then the "greatest hits", play the hits first then the album, or start with some gems, put the album in the middle and end with the gems?
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    They will come back with a Before These Crowded Streets 20 year anniversary tour.
    Renditions of the entire album and another 10-13 songs all fan favorites.
    Big variation will be the placement of the songs. Play them as an album together, or sprinkle them through the set?
    If playing them together, play them first then the "greatest hits", play the hits first then the album, or start with some gems, put the album in the middle and end with the gems?
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    I really hope there is a small winter/spring tour, with a summer to follow. As for what the sets will look like, who knows I just hope Boyd is audible.
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    I've brought this up in other threads, but would it be that improbable for DMB to return to some ballparks next year? Especially with the year off, I can see them selling out a night at places like Wrigley or Fenway.
    If they played either of those stadiums plus Citi Field or Yankee Stadium... they would sell out 2 nights easily for each venue
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    U2 did it. Why can't they do it?

    As for what I'm smoking... 3 grade math exercises with a 7 year old will broaden your horizons big time!
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    Old 07-01-2017, 10:16 AM   #73
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    Math exercises aside, it would be an interesting twist, wouldn't it? They played the entire Away From the World in NJ back in 2012, didn't they? To add to the realm of possibilities, Pink Floyd did an entire tour playing The Dark Side of the Moon while promoting their latest album (The Division Bell) in 1994
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    Old 07-01-2017, 08:45 PM   #74
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    I'm new to the boards, but not new to the band. And this may belong in another thread all together. But one of the prevailing themes among the posts I have viewed in my very short time on the forum, is the longing for "deep tracks" for lack of better terms at live shows. Rarely played titles, taking risks, broadening their horizon, etc, etc. I have seen more than one post that this is not the same band it once was. Outside of basic human nature to want more and more of everything, its my humble opinion, that we simply forget sometimes how great this band is, and how good these tried and true tracks really are. I'd love to create my own set list for the band too, and include a few doozies that just wont ever hit the stage again. At the same time, I also won't ever get over what its like to be in section 100 at any show and hear Bartender or Stay or Leave. For my money, there's simply not a more talented group of musicians playing music together anywhere on this planet. Twenty five years in.....they are still their own genre, and the "same ole same ole tracks" are a big reason why. I always go into a show with a few "hope so" tracks........but am still blown away with the first note of every song played....even if that song is Crash. Here's hoping the full band is back with a passion in 2018....and playing whatever the hell they want :-)
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    If they played either of those stadiums plus Citi Field or Yankee Stadium... they would sell out 2 nights easily for each venue
    Not sure what you're smoking but this isn't close to being true
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    Old 07-02-2017, 02:00 AM   #76
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    Nobody east of the Mississippi gets to complain about lack of shows (in the South, NE, East Coast in general). West coast gets maybe 10 dates a year while you can drive to 25 shows within 4 hours all summer. Stop.
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    Bristow will never be on a weekday. (Not blasting your dates baboon, just making some critiques)

    I believe if they tour they'll run NC during the week and vabeach/Bristow either fri/sat or sat/sun like the past few years. Makes sense imo.
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    Not sure what you're smoking but this isn't close to being true
    Yep. They only sold out one Citi Field show and that was 7 years ago when they were more popular. They were short 5,000 tickets for the other show.
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    First off, I like the song. Anything DMB plays is awesome to me. There sound is unmatched in my eyes and their lyrics are always genuine and sincere (including spoon)

    Some songs I just like much better than others. This song I find to be very slow. I am not at all a fan of the girl who sings it with Dave also. I dont like the lovely ladies either. i like dave on vocals alone...carter and rashawn provide enough backup...no need for some random duet....

    It's definitely one of their more uninteresting songs musically too. Nothing really happens from start to finish...

    Having said that, some of DMBs slowest songs are some of my favorites. I love pay for what u get, stolen away, loving wings, etc...spoon is just not up there for me.
    Part of me thinks you're trolling and the other part of me hopes you are. Spoon is probably in their top 5 songs and Alanis is perfection. Plastic Girl is the worst song they've ever written. You can't be serious.
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    2013 sets were really pretty diverse too. I did 4 shows and all were completely different than each other. I think diversity is key. The surprise element made seeing a song like STD Her interesting and exciting for me (though I can't say it helped that much when it went right into Hunger, despite that being a liberation)
    One of the better shows I've ever seen out of the 100 plus I've been to was in 13, but 13 was a year with too much stand up play. Dream girl and bayou are not good openers. Camden N2 that year would have been epic if not for the DG opener. Bayou was always a guilty pleasure of mine but not as an opener. I think they will come back with great stuff. I will always be a 10 plus show per summer guy until I can't (or my kids or wife stop me from going) do it anymore.
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    Ya I don't see them slowing down any time soon. Probably a new album next year, more touring etc. <br>
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    I wish, like others have said, theyd do less stops and more 2 night stands. Also wouldn't mind if they went separate ways for a few more years either, continuing with the D&amp;T or another Dave solo record- but as I originally stated I don't see the band breaking again or slowing down anytime soon so that's just wishful thinking.
    Yea two or even three nighters at the big spots: SPAC, WPB, Alpine, Deer Creek, Jones Beach, Camden (I guess), bring back the two nighter at star lake, Gorge. Less of the Bristow and Holmdels of the world. (Sorry to those who are local to those areas). I travel hours to all of those spots and they play their best shows at SPAC and alpine and deer creek, so why waste the time on the mid week shows that they are usually clearly not sharp. Just do big spots on the weekend. A summer full of 9 or 10 Gorge weekends at 9 or 10 big spots
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    I remember the 2010 tour with all those baseball stadiums. To me, the concert experience just isn't that great when they play the baseball stadiums. Football stadiums might be a different story, but we all know DMB isn't Chesney (at least not these days) which is a good thing. I enjoy them most at the SPAC and star lake, and alpine spots that have awesome crowds. Some of the small amps d and t played this summer wouldn't be suitable for the band (i.e. Mann center in Philly ) but a place like merriweathee post would be nice to see them return to if it has been re done and they choose to do a generic tour with big weekend stops and one or two mid week one off shows
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    Yes please. The Camden n2 show is still the best show I have ever witnessed.
    That was a magical night. Not my fav, but in my top 5 for sure.
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    I agree. Dmb full band shows are best in ampitethers. I absolutely hate Wrigley Field and the sound sucks too. 3 nighters at their favorite ampitethers and skip Chicago, because Alpine is the better stop there. I've been saying they need to go Pearl Jam style - 20-25 shows every other year and they will create demand. PJ sells out Wrigley and Fenway 2 nighters, no problem...just not every single year.

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    If they played either of those stadiums plus Citi Field or Yankee Stadium... they would sell out 2 nights easily for each venue

    I remember the 2010 tour with all those baseball stadiums. To me, the concert experience just isn't that great when they play the baseball stadiums. Football stadiums might be a different story, but we all know DMB isn't Chesney (at least not these days) which is a good thing. I enjoy them most at the SPAC and star lake, and alpine spots that have awesome crowds. Some of the small amps d and t played this summer wouldn't be suitable for the band (i.e. Mann center in Philly ) but a place like merriweathee post would be nice to see them return to if it has been re done and they choose to do a generic tour with big weekend stops and one or two mid week one off shows

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    I'm much newer to DMB than most others here are (came aboard in 2012), so I never got the chance to see DMB play stadiums. Perhaps it's just the idea of seeing DMB in larger, more well-known venues that's appealing to me, but would someone who's seen DMB in the stadium setting mind explaining to me why their amphitheater shows are better?
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    1) Amps are designed for concert sound and sight lines, stadiums aren't

    2) The vast majority of seats at a stadium are very far from the stage
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    Yea two or even three nighters at the big spots: SPAC, WPB, Alpine, Deer Creek, Jones Beach, Camden (I guess), bring back the two nighter at star lake, Gorge. Less of the Bristow and Holmdels of the world. (Sorry to those who are local to those areas). I travel hours to all of those spots and they play their best shows at SPAC and alpine and deer creek, so why waste the time on the mid week shows that they are usually clearly not sharp. Just do big spots on the weekend. A summer full of 9 or 10 Gorge weekends at 9 or 10 big spots
    They sell out PNC Holmdel every year and have played great shows there since 2013. And you want them to go back to Star Lake lol.....
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    Part of me thinks you're trolling and the other part of me hopes you are. Spoon is probably in their top 5 songs and Alanis is perfection. Plastic Girl is the worst song they've ever written. You can't be serious.
    Oh, that's right. I forgot Spoon was in their top 5 songs! Please release this list of top DMB songs you've put together so I can memorize them and some day like exactly what you like! I'm sorry for not completely agreeing with how you feel about the songs. Anyone who thinks spoon is good, but not one of their best is a complete TROLL!!! I really apologize for wasting your time with my "silly" opinion. Maybe one day I'll have the refined ear that you posses.

    P.S you've probably never picked up an instrument in your life. I play 5, 3 very well. Please send me your contact information so I you can give me some private lessons on what music is supposed to be and sound like. Also, what foods should I like? I want to make sure I haven't been eating anything you don't like to eat. Really I just want to be you. Teach me how to be better! I LOVE SPOON!!!! PLASTIC GIRL STINKS! NOW I'M A REAL FAN!!!!
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    I'm much newer to DMB than most others here are (came aboard in 2012), so I never got the chance to see DMB play stadiums. Perhaps it's just the idea of seeing DMB in larger, more well-known venues that's appealing to me, but would someone who's seen DMB in the stadium setting mind explaining to me why their amphitheater shows are better?
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    1) Amps are designed for concert sound and sight lines, stadiums aren't

    2) The vast majority of seats at a stadium are very far from the stage
    I too came along to the band after their stadium show days. I know the reasons listed above are both true for any concert in a stadium setting, but part of me has always wanted to experience it at least once.

    The Wrigley shows were actually set to be my first shows for this band and then my "buddy" gave away my tickets the week of the show, for some chick he never talked to again Seeing this band in a setting like Wrigley is just something I'd like to experience just once or twice. But I completely agree that they belong in the amp setting
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