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Old 12-21-2014, 12:22 PM   #30061
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Trestman trolling the fuck out of the Bears on his way out...
This has been a perfect storm. Lions gifting the Bears momentum time and time again with awful turnovers and penalties. The defense has stepped up big time after Raiola cheap shot stomp.

The only positive is the Lions play these types of games ALL the time, and find ways to win them. At least this season. I'm going to be livid if some meaningless wins save jobs. I NEED THE DUMPSTER TO HAVE A BIGGER FIRE!
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    That run sums up the Bears D this season perfectly.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 12:43 PM   #30063
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    That run sums up the Bears D this season perfectly.
    Ya but the rest of the game they've played like they gave a damn, and I hate them for it.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 12:49 PM   #30064
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    Ya but the rest of the game they've played like they gave a damn, and I hate them for it.
    That's even more of an indictment on the coaching staff IMO...
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    Old 12-21-2014, 12:51 PM   #30065
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    Stafford is so bad.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 12:54 PM   #30066
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    Stafford should have put an end to this game by now. What a joke the Lions are. Guaranteed one and done.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 12:56 PM   #30067
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    I like our returner Mariani. Great White Hope.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 12:57 PM   #30068
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    Meatheads on 679 will be fucking awesome if Clausen leads a game winning drive here.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:01 PM   #30069
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    Meatheads on 679 will be fucking awesome if Clausen leads a game winning drive here.
    Yeah, not a chance.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:01 PM   #30070
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    Clausen has been erratic at times, but he has had completely spot on throws out and out dropped all day. Alshon has been embarrasing. Clausman should have 2013 McCown numbers today, definitely got screwed.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:03 PM   #30071
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    Im sold on Clausen as the longterm backup. He's pretty easy to like after all you hear about his work ethic.
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    Clausen has been erratic at times, but he has had completely spot on throws out and out dropped all day. Alshon has been embarrasing. Clausman should have 2013 McCown numbers today, definitely got screwed.
    No McCown actually moved the offense loads better. If Lions don't set up the Bears with good field position it's possible the Bears get shutout.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:09 PM   #30073
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    Good on Alshon for keeping the big picture in mind.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:21 PM   #30074
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    Alshon 2014 MVP
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:48 PM   #30075
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    Clauses be praised!

    @LaurenceWHolmes: #Lions turned the ball over 3 times, had 3 S/T busts and 60 yards worth of penalties. #Bears scored 14 points. Offense 234 total yards.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 01:52 PM   #30076
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    Bears scored 14 in the first quarter against the Lions on Thanksgiving...just saying.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 03:13 PM   #30077
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    Holmes is roasting the coaching staff on the Score right now.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 03:57 PM   #30078
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    Holmes is my favorite 670 personality. Just wish he liked/appreciated hockey more.
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    Here's my play if I'm the Bears. Hire Shanahan, draft the best non-Mariota/Winston prospect he sees in the draft (if that guy exists, maybe it's Fales, I don't fucking know) , see if he can find success with Cutler while a young guy is "groomed."
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    Bears will never hire Shanahan.
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    Bears will never hire Shanahan.
    Because he wants final say on personnel?
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    Old 12-21-2014, 05:38 PM   #30082
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    Holmes is my favorite 670 personality. Just wish he liked/appreciated hockey more.
    He likes the Hawks a lot, just not a diehard.
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    Old 12-21-2014, 06:00 PM   #30083
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    Because he wants final say on personnel?
    Because he'll be too expensive. There are already reports that the Bears aren't even considering Harbaugh because of his price tag.

    Until ownership shows any signs of actually changing, there's 0 reason to believe the Bears will hire any previous NFL HC that's had any sort of success.

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    He likes the Hawks a lot, just not a diehard.
    He's definitely grown into the sport the last couple years. He's the one guy I make sure to listen to on a semi-routine basis. He just focuses way more on the NBA and NFL than some guys (Mully and Hanley, for example).
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    Old 12-22-2014, 06:00 AM   #30084
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    It's going to be really damn depressing when we bring through a clown car of Assistant Coaches that no one else in the league even has on their radar as potential HC candidates...
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    Old 12-22-2014, 06:01 AM   #30085
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    You will overpay for Jay when you could have just franchise tagged, but you won't overpay for a coach that has actually done the job before and can actually institute a "regime"?
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    Old 12-22-2014, 07:58 AM   #30086
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    Wow Gould was on the radio and was 100% honest.

    Admitted the locker room has all sorts of issues, and the team was pissed about Cutler getting benched. Said they are doing a lot of things that aren't the Chicago Bears way, and none of it would have happened under Lovie.
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    Old 12-22-2014, 08:06 AM   #30087
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    Only 7 days left of this mess.
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    Old 12-22-2014, 08:48 AM   #30088
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    Wow Gould was on the radio and was 100% honest.

    Admitted the locker room has all sorts of issues, and the team was pissed about Cutler getting benched. Said they are doing a lot of things that aren't the Chicago Bears way, and none of it would have happened under Lovie.
    i could certainly see why that would rattle a locker room. however, i feel Cutler is still as much of the problem as the coaching/organization. how long is the "we need to find a coach who can work with Cutler" fiasco gonna go on? at least Clausen only turned the ball over once. it goes to show that when you actually hold onto the football, it gives your defense more rest, better field position, etc.

    this offseason is going to be one of the most interesting in Bears history.
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    Old 12-22-2014, 09:32 AM   #30089
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    i could certainly see why that would rattle a locker room.
    Players want to win, and they believe their best chance is with Cutler. When you make a change like that where it's clearly about setting up your next job, as opposed to doing what's best for the team. It just doesn't go over well. The way Gould was talking I think Trestman has lost that entire locker room.

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    however, i feel Cutler is still as much of the problem as the coaching/organization. how long is the "we need to find a coach who can work with Cutler" fiasco gonna go on?
    Cutler is a problem, but you can win games with Cutler. I only make this point because we're stuck with him. You do need a coach who will actually coach him. I understand guy after guy has failed with him here, but which coach post-Cutler has had success? All of the coaches have been bad. What would Cutler be like if Emery had hired Arians with Ken Whisenhunt as the OC?

    I believe Cutler is too old to change now, but I think he could have been a better QB with actual coaching. Every coach during his time with the Bears has coddled him. Why they've treated him like he's Peyton Manning I have no idea. I just know that you can win with stupid QB's, just look at the Detroit Lions. They are 11-4 with Stafford and he's every bit of Jay Cutler as Jay Cutler. Hell Cutler has played in an NFC Championship game.

    If we're lucky next year will be Cutler's last with the Bears, but nothing will improve if we don't get rid of all the people making the awful decisions. They are a bigger problem than any individual player.

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    at least Clausen only turned the ball over once. it goes to show that when you actually hold onto the football, it gives your defense more rest, better field position, etc.
    Cutler has had games with 0 INT's. I get people want to see anybody that's not Cutler, but if he played that same game nobody is impressed. Clausen was terrible early, but the defense played hard to entire game irrelevant of him. If the defense needed a different QB to player hard, then screw those players and screw the defensive coordinator.

    Not to mention the 14 points came off the Lions being dumb. You think Clausen would be successful if the Lions go up big and they have to try and pass to get into it? Also annoying that they had to bench Cutler to attempt to run the ball. I don't care who the QB is, they should have tried that weeks ago.

    My greatest fear in life is that the Bears look just mediocre enough that ownership will say "It was all on Cutler. Lets keep Trestman and see what he can do with Clausen next year." They need a complete house cleaning. Bring in a new head coach. Tell that coach "it will hurt the cap, but if you want Cutler off the team at any point we'll eat the money and cut him."
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    Old 12-22-2014, 09:42 AM   #30090
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    I know people think they won't for money reasons, but it will be a complete joke if the Bears don't make an offer to Harbaugh, and then Shanahan, before even looking for other candidates. They need an established guy to reset the environment within the locker room, especially given the amount of young dudes that have seen this shitshow season. Some Canadian, Coordinator, College type is not the play here.
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