DMBLive - Georgia Theatre - 4/6/1994

[BestBuyGuy09]

Originally Posted by FeelingGood

Great show...one of my favorites. Seriously doubt it's going to be worth the money (more than I've already spent), given the quality of the soundboard....unless there's something unique included that's not on the tape (additional davespeak, another track, etc.). For anyone who's downloaded, would love to hear a critique comparing the two...

My 2 cents: the mix is slightly more robust than the DSBD that's been floating around since 2000. The mids on that mix Jon Ice put together always overpowered, in particular, the highs of the violin and sax, so this one comes across as a little cleaner. That being said, Jon's mix of this show has always been one of my favorite pulls of any show, and it is exceptionally nice to listen to as is. It is definitely in my top 5 most-burned shows for sharing with casual fans because of the quality of his work and the original pull.

Hope that helps!

[BestBuyGuy09]

Also, the little bit of hiss and popping that are audible in the Ice version (I assume from wear to the original DAT) are not present on the new offering, so that's nice.

[BestBuyGuy09]

All of that said, there are plenty of shows from '94 for which we either have no known recording or the pulls and mixes are not near the quality of the Jon Ice mix of this show, so I would have definitely been more excited to see one of those shows released for the DMBLive series. I still bought it because I'm obsessed.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by BruceW

How does the venue affect your listening experience? Who cares where the show was played

It's not an exciting release at all! That's why! Two shows from the same venue in a 6 month time frame. How different can the performances of the same songs be? Now if this was 1992 or 1993, it would be drastically different in a 6 month time span. But in 1994, the songs themselves did not evolve THAT much from April til October. If they management claims THIS show was a better show performance wise than the previously released Georgia show, I'd still be upset because I bought that last Georgia show and it is one of the worst DMBlive releases IMO to date. It sounds terrible and the band is not that great. So it makes me feel like they are correcting a mistake, and they really meant to release THIS show.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Jake, can you confirm or deny the following?

sounds like something I wrote.. it's one of my favorite shows of all time.

[DMB1983]

That's great that it's one of your favorite shows of all time! It probably is, and I'll listen to the tape once it's finished downloading and let you know. If it is so great, then why did management release the subpar show from October 1994 in the first place?

[JAMILL112]

Originally Posted by Jake

I think it sounds a lot better but I'm going to tell you how to spend your money

I second this. It sounds outstanding. All around GREAT show. Love Boyd's playing on this. The SBD is very good, but the clarity and crispness of this (for me) is well worth the 15 bucks for a show of this caliber IMO.

[crashintonickdm]

Is there even a slightly above average show from 94? They're all incredible

[Jake]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

That's great that it's one of your favorite shows of all time! It probably is, and I'll listen to the tape once it's finished downloading and let you know. If it is so great, then why did management release the subpar show from October 1994 in the first place?

I don't recall there being a subpar October release

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by Jake

I don't recall there being a subpar October release

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This show is indeed subpar in quality, and was not worth the $ I paid for it. Tapes sound better. And if this new April release is better yet it is from the same venue in the same time of the band's history I do not understand why they are both released.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by Jake

in my opinion this show also features the best Song That Jane Likes ever.

The Song That Jake Likes, in this instance

[robby_idol]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

http://davematthewsband.shop.musicto...755&pc=DMDD130

This show is indeed subpar in quality, and was not worth the $ I paid for it. Tapes sound better. And if this new April release is better yet it is from the same venue in the same time of the band's history I do not understand why they are both released.

Because there's an incredibly limited pool of shows to draw from for DMBLive releases, so it's either this or nothing. And if you can't appreciate a show with the one-time only Me & Her jam, then I got nothing for you from this series.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

http://davematthewsband.shop.musicto...755&pc=DMDD130

This show is indeed subpar in quality, and was not worth the $ I paid for it. Tapes sound better. And if this new April release is better yet it is from the same venue in the same time of the band's history I do not understand why they are both released.

You can't figure out why a show w Me & Her - a 1-time played song, and a show with Get In Line, a rare song, were released?


Really? You can't?





Really?






Seriously?

[TwoStep2888]

man I wish Get in Line had survived longer, it was fun. Catchy.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by Jake

You can't figure out why a show w Me & Her - a 1-time played song, and a show with Get In Line, a rare song, were released?


Really? You can't?





Really?






Seriously?

For serious. For real. That's a total of two songs that have some buying power. If they would let me buy the singles of those I would, but they know people like us will buy an entire show to hear an "official" release of "Me and Her" and another entire show for "Get in Line". That's like 28 bucks plus tax for two songs. I am not impressed with the first Georgia theater release at all, and don't see how a release from the same venue, with the same sound equipment, from the same year is going to really be that different. That is all.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

For serious. For real. That's a total of two songs that have some buying power. If they would let me buy the singles of those I would, but they know people like us will buy an entire show to hear an "official" release of "Me and Her" and another entire show for "Get in Line". That's like 28 bucks plus tax for two songs. I am not impressed with the first Georgia theater release at all, and don't see how a release from the same venue, with the same sound equipment, from the same year is going to really be that different. That is all.

I'm going to pipe in here with my 2 cents. Don't buy it.

It's worth it to me.

[RSSR]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

For serious. For real. That's a total of two songs that have some buying power. If they would let me buy the singles of those I would, but they know people like us will buy an entire show to hear an "official" release of "Me and Her" and another entire show for "Get in Line". That's like 28 bucks plus tax for two songs. I am not impressed with the first Georgia theater release at all, and don't see how a release from the same venue, with the same sound equipment, from the same year is going to really be that different. That is all.

They do offer 256 kbps MP3 tracks you can buy individually.

[robby_idol]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

For serious. For real. That's a total of two songs that have some buying power. If they would let me buy the singles of those I would, but they know people like us will buy an entire show to hear an "official" release of "Me and Her" and another entire show for "Get in Line". That's like 28 bucks plus tax for two songs. I am not impressed with the first Georgia theater release at all, and don't see how a release from the same venue, with the same sound equipment, from the same year is going to really be that different. That is all.

After something like 100 releases, you could apply this logic to just about anything the band releases today. Except maybe a 2016 show, which I recall you pushing heavily for in the Live Trax thread. That might be $15+S&H for about 3-4 previously unreleased songs. Not exactly a giant whopper of a deal there, either.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

For serious. For real. That's a total of two songs that have some buying power. If they would let me buy the singles of those I would, but they know people like us will buy an entire show to hear an "official" release of "Me and Her" and another entire show for "Get in Line". That's like 28 bucks plus tax for two songs. I am not impressed with the first Georgia theater release at all, and don't see how a release from the same venue, with the same sound equipment, from the same year is going to really be that different. That is all.

if you're not interested in hearing the band play its best material at one of its best periods that's your problem

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

if you're not interested in hearing the band play its best material at one of its best periods that's your problem

[RSSR]

Originally Posted by RSSR

They do offer 256 kbps MP3 tracks you can buy individually.

Oops, never mind. They used to do this in the past.

[Cryfreedom09]

I'm curious how many full show live releases they have. The more the better to me. I'm just curious if anybody has kep track and has the figure handy. Chad?

[RSSR]

There's a list on the front page of the Almanac of every DMB, D&T, D&F, and Dave solo released shows as either a LT, DMBLive, retail store, or download.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by RSSR

There's a list on the front page of the Almanac of every DMB, D&T, D&F, and Dave solo released shows as either a LT, DMBLive, retail store, or download.

It's just shy of 100 by my count, including D+T, solo stuff and counting each show in a multi night release.

[Cryfreedom09]

Originally Posted by RSSR

There's a list on the front page of the Almanac of every DMB, D&T, D&F, and Dave solo released shows as either a LT, DMBLive, retail store, or download.

Originally Posted by Route_2

It's just shy of 100 by my count, including D+T, solo stuff and counting each show in a multi night release.

Thanks y'all.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by robby_idol

After something like 100 releases, you could apply this logic to just about anything the band releases today. Except maybe a 2016 show, which I recall you pushing heavily for in the Live Trax thread. That might be $15+S&H for about 3-4 previously unreleased songs. Not exactly a giant whopper of a deal there, either.

A fully mixed release of any show is a different situation, if done well. A 2016 Gorge fully mixed show is hopefully going to sound a lot better than the tapes we have, though the tapes are good, they do not sound as quality as a fully mixed official release. And it's not always about unreleased material. I was just making my point that if that is THE reason to buy the Georgia Theater show it's not worth it.

I don't get the need for this 1994 show when the soundboard sounds fantastic. All they've done in most of the DMBlive series is boost EQ's, and take out any noticeable hiccups or blips in sound. It's the same exact source as the tapes available because they were allowed to plug into the soundboard. This is nothing different than that. If this was a show that was uncirculated, poor quality tape, or previously non-existent, it would also be a different story.

IMO Dmblive releases should be shows that aren't available as a soundboard (mic source is different) in the taper circulation, unique (as in more than one unreleased song that wasn't on the previous release from the same venue in the same year), and/or years we don't have a ton or material from. The best ones for me are the Academy, Beneroya Hall, and the 98 Philly show. Even the D+T Prism house I didn't purchase because again the tape is really good, what is the official soundboard released going to offer that the tape can't?

[crashintonickdm]

this is a top 10 release.

[NKAWGNEATO]

3 days earlier Pearl Jam played at the Atlanta Fox Theatre for an epic live radio show.

[misschung]

Originally Posted by tyler3440

I love rhyme and reason form the early 90s without set lyrics

Me too, and it seemed less dark than what would become the 'standard' version. I was just listening to that today.

[robby_idol]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

I don't get the need for this 1994 show when the soundboard sounds fantastic.

Here's the thing: Most fans don't trade in SBDs, download torrents of super old shows, or even know that shows like this are available elsewhere. DMBLive for many fans is, I imagine, their first introduction to some of these older gems. Just because hardcores like us have heard the SBD of this show, doesn't mean everyone else has.

I don't think DMBLive should be relegated only to shows with no tape or a poor quality tape. Those qualifications don't always mean it's a show actually worth releasing. This one is a fantastic show with a super rare Me & Her jam. The fact that a SBD was available for years is only known by a very small section of the community. Everyone else now has a chance to hear and enjoy this set.