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Old 04-07-2016, 10:59 AM   #61
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

Yes the Rebels Universe is canon as is 1-3 and the clone wars cartoon.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

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    Yeah this. This wouldn't make any sense. I don't care if it's in the book or whatever it would be dumb to see him come back to life.
    Maul does come back to life in Rebels. They get his body and reattach him and use that space age technology to make him one again. Dumb but possible given Star Wars is science fiction.

    I do know that after Ep 1, Lucas admitted he wouldn't have killed Maul off had he known how much the fanbase loved him. I wonder if this is Disney's way of rectifying that, that is IF that is Maul.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

    The problem with bringing Maul back though is they'd have to kill him off again. Would be kinda lame to have him die twice in the movies. I bet his return and exit will all be kept in Rebels.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

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    I thought that to, but then I re-read his post and it says the Rebels universe. Quick question, in the Rebels Universe did Episodes I-III happen?
    Yes, Episode I-III are canon and Rebels is canon. Rebels takes place between Sith and Hope, and it's in the same universe. 14 years after Sith and 5 years before Hope.

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    So they healed him after he was chopped in half and fell down that hole? lol
    Basically, when Maul fell down that hole he used the Force to grab on to something, and was eventually dumped into a junkyard (his remains). Sidious took on Maul as his new apprentice after the death of Dooku. His body was repaired with cybernetics. At one point he even had spider-robot legs.

    That’s a REALLY short version of it, a lot more happened and it’s a much bigger story than “oh, he came back to life”.

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    Would be kinda lame to have him die twice in the movies.
    He technically didn’t die.

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    He technically didn’t die.
    But the majority of common movie fans aren't going to have seen the cartoons. To them, Maul never came back in Rebels.
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    Maul does come back to life in Rebels. They get his body and reattach him and use that space age technology to make him one again. Dumb but possible given Star Wars is science fiction.

    I do know that after Ep 1, Lucas admitted he wouldn't have killed Maul off had he known how much the fanbase loved him. I wonder if this is Disney's way of rectifying that, that is IF that is Maul.
    I hadn't heard that about Lucas. I think it would been better to just keep him and have him be the apprentice until Vader. Would have been more dramatic when Anakin killed him.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

    anyone mention how crazy similar Jyn Erso looks to young Leia?

    possible force sensitive cousin?

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    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
    It would be difficult but I'm sure they can work him in with a brief explanation in the movie somehow. Someone could say "Vader isn't the first person that has been pieced together from the brink of death" and Maul walks in or something.

    To your point though, I agree, I wouldn't bring him back due to the casual fan who doesn't take in the extended universe stuff.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

    I think that if they brought back Maul, people would fucking flip out and not really care how/why as much as they care that he's back.
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    But the majority of common movie fans aren't going to have seen the cartoons. To them, Maul never came back in Rebels.
    Not saying they are a majority, but I think you underestimate how many Star Wars fans follow and love all things Star Wars, not just the movies. But also, I'm sure they'd throw some dialogue or flashback in there explaining what happened to him.

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    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
    People are already buying that there was a futuristic universe a long time ago, where a guy got a new hand, another guy had a suit made so he could breathe, where many people can do anything they want just by thinking about it, etc. I think a guy surviving being chopped in half will be fine..
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    People are already buying that there was a futuristic universe a long time ago, where a guy got a new hand, another guy had a suit made so he could breathe, where many people can do anything they want just by thinking about it, etc. I think a guy surviving being chopped in half will be fine..
    Real good point
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    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
    not being a dick at all, youre 100% right

    I wouldnt call myself a casual fan in that I watched these movies literally every single day as a kid, still have hundred of the action figures, the Falcon, an Xwing, even the Death Star at my parents basement, read a couple of the books and had about 50 comics...but I never watched rebels or anything else. To me, Maul is dead.
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    People are already buying that there was a futuristic universe a long time ago, where a guy got a new hand, another guy had a suit made so he could breathe, where many people can do anything they want just by thinking about it, etc. I think a guy surviving being chopped in half will be fine..
    this is the same justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
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    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
    not being a dick at all, youre 100% right

    I wouldnt call myself a casual fan in that I watched these movies literally every single day as a kid, still have hundred of the action figures, the Falcon, an Xwing, even the Death Star at my parents basement, read a couple of the books and had about 50 comics...but I never watched rebels or anything else. To me, Maul is dead.
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    People are already buying that there was a futuristic universe a long time ago, where a guy got a new hand, another guy had a suit made so he could breathe, where many people can do anything they want just by thinking about it, etc. I think a guy surviving being chopped in half will be fine..
    this is the same justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
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    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
    not being a dick at all, youre 100% right

    I wouldnt call myself a casual fan in that I watched these movies literally every single day as a kid, still have hundred of the action figures, the Falcon, an Xwing, even the Death Star at my parents basement, read a couple of the books and had about 50 comics...but I never watched rebels or anything else. To me, Maul is dead.
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    People are already buying that there was a futuristic universe a long time ago, where a guy got a new hand, another guy had a suit made so he could breathe, where many people can do anything they want just by thinking about it, etc. I think a guy surviving being chopped in half will be fine..
    this is the same justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
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    That's a cool way to survive and I'm not trying to be a dick at all but casual fans won't buy that or believe it whatsoever so idk if bringing him back would be that good of an idea. Even though he was cool as shit.
    I wouldnt call myself a casual fan in that I watched these movies literally every single day as a kid, still have hundred of the action figures, the Falcon, an Xwing, even the Death Star at my parents basement, read a couple of the books and had about 50 comics...but I never watched rebels or anything else. To me, Maul is dead.

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    People are already buying that there was a futuristic universe a long time ago, where a guy got a new hand, another guy had a suit made so he could breathe, where many people can do anything they want just by thinking about it, etc. I think a guy surviving being chopped in half will be fine..
    this is the same lame justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
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    this is the same lame justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
    Because you're already accepting so much it doesn't really matter. If you actually looked at every flimsy plot or plot hole or lack of continuity, you shouldn't be watching these movies at all because they'd be terrible.

    Not to mention, the 'world they created' most certainly allows for a guy's (a guy with the force, no less) legs to be reattached, or get mechanical legs, whatever happened in the cartoons. Hell, we can do that now in real life to a degree.

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    I wouldnt call myself a casual fan in that I watched these movies literally every single day as a kid, still have hundred of the action figures, the Falcon, an Xwing, even the Death Star at my parents basement, read a couple of the books and had about 50 comics...but I never watched rebels or anything else. To me, Maul is dead.


    this is the same lame justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
    Luke also fell down a shaft of sorts in Empire. And survived.
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    palpatine wasn't even cut in half. he should come back for episode 8
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    palpatine wasn't even cut in half. he should come back for episode 8
    If he was a cool old dude, he probably would.


    Also, people 'dying' as a misdirection and coming back is not some new thing. That plot device has been used countless times in probably every fictional world ever created.

    Didn't that even happen in the WWF/WCW back in the 90s? With Undertaker or Sting or something?
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    the problem with maul is that his death matters hugely to the plot. it helps obi wan's growth and opens up a spot for anakin to be palpatine's apprentice
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    the problem with maul is that his death matters hugely to the plot. it helps obi wan's growth and opens up a spot for anakin to be palpatine's apprentice
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    this is the same lame justification people use against those of us who say "that would never happen" in a show like the WD. Whatever the genre is, we've bought into the world they've created, and that world needs to have certain laws. Maul was cut in half by a lightsaber, then fell down an all-too familiar shaft. He's dead. Bring him back, we may as well bring back Mace Windu, Palpatine, Han, cuz fuck it why not?
    Because Windu and Han died. Maul survived past Episode 1. You don't have to like that it happened, but it happened.

    If they didn't want the cartoons and comic books to be canon then they wouldn't be.
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    the problem with maul is that his death matters hugely to the plot. it helps obi wan's growth and opens up a spot for anakin to be palpatine's apprentice
    I'm not sure how that's a problem. The cartoons don't ignore the events of the movie. The same things happened. In the cartoon he was still cut in half, and it opened up a spot for Anakin.

    They could have wiped out the cartoon when they got rid of everything, but I assume they made it canon for a reason.
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    the problem with maul is that his death matters hugely to the plot. it helps obi wan's growth and opens up a spot for anakin to be palpatine's apprentice
    I don't know the backstory, so I can't really speak to this accurately, but I'm assuming it's not that he just popped out of the hole immediately and got new legs. So whether his death was real or perceived, those plot lines can happen regardless.
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    maul was retconned into surviving episode 1
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    maul was retconned into surviving episode 1
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

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    I don't know the backstory, so I can't really speak to this accurately, but I'm assuming it's not that he just popped out of the hole immediately and got new legs. So whether his death was real or perceived, those plot lines can happen regardless.
    It wasn't immediately at all. There's a lot that happened around that story, especially after.
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    Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 16th, 2016)

    After viewing the trailer a few times, it seems much more of a grown-up movie. No droids or, thank god, Jar Jars. Wonder how this will play out for the younger kids that won't know any of these characters except maybe an extended DV cameo.
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