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The way Spielberg slow-rolled both the T-Rex and the Raptors in the original JP was simply brilliant.
Jurassic Park continues to be unsurpassed in so many ways
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    i'm on the fence as well with this. the plot is rather cheesy. they could have easily made it so that something went wrong with the operational park, which caused dinosaurs to be in each other's habitat, escaped and started attacking, etc. they didn't have to make it a Hybrid Dino. now it feels like the movie went from being about a bunch of dinosaurs to being about a single bad dinosaur. i'm still gonna go see it, but i'm limiting my expectations. i like Chris Pratt a lot too.
    Yeah, I agree with this. Why would scientists do that after everything else that has already happened on this island?
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    they cant handle a trex for more than a couple weeks, lets make a new dino


    why doesnt anyone mix a koala with a puppy? its always a Trex/Raptor/Poisonous snake
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    When it comes to movies like this I'm a little baffled when I see comments about how ridiculous it is to see things like Chris Pratt riding a motorcycle alongside a flock of raptors. Are we forgetting that the entire premise of the movie is about a park featuring DINOSAURS that have been brought to life from 65 million year old blood from a mosquito that was stuck in amber? If you think a scene like that is ridiculous then you may want to think about the movie as a whole HAHA. Not only that, but this is the 4th go at this and seemingly no one has learned their lesson from the past 3 films. I will see this for the heck of it, but I will be going into it knowing it will not come anywhere close to how great the original was. It'll be a fun movie that is completely ridiculous in every way. Just as long as we don't have talking raptors like they did in JP3. That movie was atrocious. I have a bad feeling this movie will be more in line with how bad the 3rd one was. I can suspend belief, but after 3 tragic bouts with dinosaurs they think it's a good idea to splice together the DNA of multiple vicious animals into one super dinosaur??? I mean, come on. They could have done without that. You could have a movie that is based around the idea that the park actually opens without using a fictitious super-dino.
    Even in a movie where dinosaurs have been recreated, I find that more plausible than them training said dinosaurs. Velociraptors are considered one of the most cunning and intelligent species in the JP universe. I'm curious how many damn people they lost trying to train those bastards.
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    Hopefully, it's not exactly true of his Star Trek movies...
    it's already been said that he's trying to limit his CGI use and is using a lot of live-action props, characters, and sequences.
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    ^ for star wars? yeah, he's trying to make it as much like the originals as he can
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    I wonder if Chris Pratts character night be like a nephew or related somehow to Robert Muldoon (the raptor hunter) from the original. He seems like a modern version of that character.

    Also, read that there's a statue in Jurassic World of John Hammond, commemorating the man who created the Jurassic Park idea. If that's true, that'd be real nice since Richard Attenborough recently passed.
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    yeah its a statue of Hammond
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    Jesus, why can't they just have 1,000 dinosaurs eat all the tourists, hop on boats to different locations all over the world. Once there, they eat everybody and take back the earth. The end of the human race as we know it.
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    I wonder if they're going to incorporate the old park in some way. I can't remember the layout of the old park on the island but the maps of the new park seem to show a big wall that isolates the top third of the island.

    I actually like the idea of the hybrid Dino as long as it's done right. The spinosaurus or whatever it was in JP3 was just a lame attempt to one up what they thought was the reason people loved the original. First movie: TRex. Second movie: two TRexs. Third movie: bigger Dino that kills a TRex...but in reality the raptors were the coolest part. Relatively unknown Dinos at the time that acted differently than average people imagined dinosaurs. If this hybrid is a smarter, camouflage, creepy version of a TRex it could be scary...especially if they slow play it like Speilberg did in the first movie.
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    Old 11-27-2014, 08:50 AM   #221
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    The sound the new dinosaur makes in the trailer is awesome by the way.
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    Old 11-27-2014, 09:10 AM   #222
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    I wonder if they're going to incorporate the old park in some way. I can't remember the layout of the old park on the island but the maps of the new park seem to show a big wall that isolates the top third of the island.

    I actually like the idea of the hybrid Dino as long as it's done right. The spinosaurus or whatever it was in JP3 was just a lame attempt to one up what they thought was the reason people loved the original. First movie: TRex. Second movie: two TRexs. Third movie: bigger Dino that kills a TRex...but in reality the raptors were the coolest part. Relatively unknown Dinos at the time that acted differently than average people imagined dinosaurs. If this hybrid is a smarter, camouflage, creepy version of a TRex it could be scary...especially if they slow play it like Speilberg did in the first movie.
    what made the raptors scary is that they were real. Creating a new dino seems lazy and played out (deep blue sea)...would much rather them introduce a real dinosaur that isnt popular but scary as fuck
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    Looks awesome. So effing excited.
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    Also for those who don't like the plot point, making a new dino/hybrid is perfectly in line with the theme of the first movie. Like 100%.
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    i thought the theme of the first movie was to recreate real dinosaurs.
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    Not really. It was the theme of wielding a power they couldn't control and it backfiring.

    In the words of Ian Malcolm "Yeah but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
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    yes i get that...but they still created real dinosaurs. I see what you're saying though, that of course that ability would eventually lead to the creation of a hybrid
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    what made the raptors scary is that they were real. Creating a new dino seems lazy and played out (deep blue sea)...would much rather them introduce a real dinosaur that isnt popular but scary as fuck
    Not to disagree with your point, because I agree with it, but aren't the raptors in JP are like twice as big as they're supposed to be?
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    yes i get that...but they still created real dinosaurs. I see what you're saying though, that of course that ability would eventually lead to the creation of a hybrid
    The book gets much more into the genetic tampering they were doing to control their breeding, dietary tolerances, and even behaviors. I think the characters (Malcolm and the scientists) argued that the animals weren't honest representations of dinosaurs that couldn't be studied reliably from a science concept...and Hammonds opinion was that the point was to "entertain."

    That whole part where they watch the cartoon that talks about frog dna has always been the one thing I hate about that movie. They don't explain anything correctly, it feels like it's edited wrong, and there's almost no point to having it in the movie (since they don't go into the science much). The other point that drives me nurse is Grant knowing trex can't see you if you don't move (which is caused by the frog dna...not something a paleontologist would know).
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    I wonder if they're going to incorporate the old park in some way. I can't remember the layout of the old park on the island but the maps of the new park seem to show a big wall that isolates the top third of the island.

    I actually like the idea of the hybrid Dino as long as it's done right. The spinosaurus or whatever it was in JP3 was just a lame attempt to one up what they thought was the reason people loved the original. First movie: TRex. Second movie: two TRexs. Third movie: bigger Dino that kills a TRex...but in reality the raptors were the coolest part. Relatively unknown Dinos at the time that acted differently than average people imagined dinosaurs. If this hybrid is a smarter, camouflage, creepy version of a TRex it could be scary...especially if they slow play it like Speilberg did in the first movie.
    Someone noticed that in one of the scenes in the trailer you can see a map of the park. A large section of the park (the north end) is labeled restricted area, and that happens to be where the Trex and Dilophosaurus areas were in the first movie. I'll see if i can make a comparison.
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    I may stand corrected. Hard to tell which exhibits are in the restricted area but the north end is still cut off from the rest of the park in JW.
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    I may stand corrected. Hard to tell which exhibits are in the restricted area but the north end is still cut off from the rest of the park in JW.
    Very cool. Thanks.

    I couldn't find any great maps online but I find it interesting that maps made by readers of the novel place the old visitor center in the north part of the island, which would be in that restricted area.
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    Anyone ever play the game on the SNES? Shit was impossible.
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    The book gets much more into the genetic tampering they were doing to control their breeding, dietary tolerances, and even behaviors. I think the characters (Malcolm and the scientists) argued that the animals weren't honest representations of dinosaurs that couldn't be studied reliably from a science concept...and Hammonds opinion was that the point was to "entertain."

    That whole part where they watch the cartoon that talks about frog dna has always been the one thing I hate about that movie. They don't explain anything correctly, it feels like it's edited wrong, and there's almost no point to having it in the movie (since they don't go into the science much). The other point that drives me nurse is Grant knowing trex can't see you if you don't move (which is caused by the frog dna...not something a paleontologist would know).
    yup i agree. The book was great. I may read it again soon. The genetic tampering and behavior modification stuff was always very interesting, and something they glossed over in the movies
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    yup i agree. The book was great. I may read it again soon. The genetic tampering and behavior modification stuff was always very interesting, and something they glossed over in the movies
    I think I'll read it again soon too. Gotta get through a couple Game of Thrones books first though.
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    The book gets much more into the genetic tampering they were doing to control their breeding, dietary tolerances, and even behaviors. I think the characters (Malcolm and the scientists) argued that the animals weren't honest representations of dinosaurs that couldn't be studied reliably from a science concept...and Hammonds opinion was that the point was to "entertain."

    That whole part where they watch the cartoon that talks about frog dna has always been the one thing I hate about that movie. They don't explain anything correctly, it feels like it's edited wrong, and there's almost no point to having it in the movie (since they don't go into the science much). The other point that drives me nurse is Grant knowing trex can't see you if you don't move (which is caused by the frog dna...not something a paleontologist would know).
    This is a bad argument. I know a lot of shit that doesn't deal with my profession. Just because he is a paleontologist doesn't mean he couldn't know other information pertaining to a different scientific field
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    The book gets much more into the genetic tampering they were doing to control their breeding, dietary tolerances, and even behaviors. I think the characters (Malcolm and the scientists) argued that the animals weren't honest representations of dinosaurs that couldn't be studied reliably from a science concept...and Hammonds opinion was that the point was to "entertain."

    That whole part where they watch the cartoon that talks about frog dna has always been the one thing I hate about that movie. They don't explain anything correctly, it feels like it's edited wrong, and there's almost no point to having it in the movie (since they don't go into the science much). The other point that drives me nurse is Grant knowing trex can't see you if you don't move (which is caused by the frog dna...not something a paleontologist would know).
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    This is a bad argument. I know a lot of shit that doesn't deal with my profession. Just because he is a paleontologist doesn't mean he couldn't know other information pertaining to a different scientific field
    Oh grant is no doubt smart enough to figure that out and know about genetics...it's just in the book there's a whole side plot where they discover all the side effects of the dna tampering. They notice the Rex's visual weakness, but don't know it from the get go.
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