Tony Stewart

[dmbmuskie]

Silly to compare this to anything that happened on field in a major sport.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo3822

He got very lucky. Did the guy that attacked the Avs player get charged?

Several months later, on December 22, Bertuzzi pled guilty to the assault charge after arranging a plea bargain with prosecutors. He was given a conditional discharge requiring 80 hours of community service and one year's probation that additionally prohibited him from playing in any hockey game Moore was competing in.

[dmbmuskie]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

That's a good point, especially if Stewart tail whipped him as someone else indicated last page. Hard for someone of his skill to say he lost the back end of his car at just that moment.

These .cars are set up to kick the right rear out when you hit the gas.

[gocubsgo3822]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Silly to compare this to anything that happened on field in a major sport.

No it is comparable to AT LEAST Mcsorely IMO. Marty tried to kill Donald. Just got lucky.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

I mean it's already documented that Stewart caused the kid it crash during the race. And if he was out of his car walking toward Stewart there's not much to connect there. It's directly Stewart's fault if he did indeed hit the gas. There's tons of witnesses on a race track. And with Stewart's known reputation as a hot head this could be pretty cut and dry. Hopefully this kid is okay. That's really all that matters.

There's a whole lot to connect there. Just because Stewart wrecked him (because he's a dickbag driver) doesn't mean he wanted him dead.

How do you prove he hit the gas?

Stewart is known as a hot head, sure, but he's also competed in thousands of races, while being a hot head, without killing anyone.

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo3822

No it is comparable to AT LEAST Mcsorely IMO. Marty tried to kill Donald. Just got lucky.

He could have easily blinded him too. Brasher got real lucky all things considered

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

There's a whole lot to connect there. Just because Stewart wrecked him (because he's a dickbag driver) doesn't mean he wanted him dead.

How do you prove he hit the gas?

Stewart is known as a hot head, sure, but he's also competed in thousands of races, while being a hot head, without killing anyone.

Well if there is video, and I am guaranteeing there is, you can see if his car swerves at all given an indication of him hitting the throttle.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

There's a whole lot to connect there. Just because Stewart wrecked him (because he's a dickbag driver) doesn't mean he wanted him dead.

How do you prove he hit the gas?

Stewart is known as a hot head, sure, but he's also competed in thousands of races, while being a hot head, without killing anyone.

Um... the car moved? There's bound to be tons of witnesses. Stewart knows what he is doing behind the wheel.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Well if there is video, and I am guaranteeing there is, you can see if his car swerves at all given an indication of him hitting the throttle.

Well yea, that's why I said "unless there's video" in the post to Chad.

[dmbmuskie]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo3822

No it is comparable to AT LEAST Mcsorely IMO. Marty tried to kill Donald. Just got lucky.

If McSorley did the same thing to some kid at a deck hockey tournament it would be similar.

[gocubsgo3822]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

He could have easily blinded him too. Brasher got real lucky all things considered

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Um... the car moved? There's bound to be tons of witnesses. Stewart knows what he is doing behind the wheel.

I was under the impression that the car was moving around the track when the kid went out onto it. If Stewart ran him down from a dead stop, then yea, I'd say that's pretty clear cut.

[dmbmuskie]

The racing people on twitter all tend to skew towards calling this an accident.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

That's a good point, especially if Stewart tail whipped him as someone else indicated last page. Hard for someone of his skill to say he lost the back end of his car at just that moment.

Most reports I read indicate that Stewart revved his engine at the kid, which commonly causes sprint cars to fishtail. I'm sure he knew that.

He could be in real bad shape even if not charged with murder. Negligent criminal homicide is a thing in many states, not to mention vehicular manslaughter (or its NY equivalent), which doesn't require intent.

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Silly to compare this to anything that happened on field in a major sport.

You have to be trolling. It is no different than McSorely, Betruzzi, etc.

If an MLB player lost his shit and ran out of the dugout during a bench clearing brawl with a bat and killed someone, would that be a non-sports story too?

[gocubsgo3822]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

If McSorley did the same thing to some kid at a deck hockey tournament it would be similar.

I see where you are going with this but you are wrong. Tony wrecked him not the other way around. Also of tony wants to race in Saturday nights he knows people will him for him. Zero excuse to run over a pedestrian.

[JRS1386]

ESPN finally has a report out on it. Guess they got bored of Johnny Manziel or wanted to take a minute break from him

[gocubsgo3822]

I just threw out some bait to deadspin. Will see if they take it.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

I was under the impression that the car was moving around the track when the kid went out onto it.

What the reports say is that it happened after a yellow flag lap. So Stewart's car was stopped or in a coasting/slowed state. That's the only way the car would fish tail anyway.

[dmbmuskie]

This happened in some small town in front of maybe 500 people. Stewart was the only pro there.

This was a hobby, not a sport.

[gocubsgo3822]

The twitter and information blackout to me is fascinating.

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo3822

I just threw out some bait to deadspin. Will see if they take it.

You could always post screens in their comment section of the article. Will 100% get seen by them that way.

[dmbmuskie]

It's because the kid is dead. No news is bad news in racing.

[JRS1386]

http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article125.htm#p125.12
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article125.htm#p125.13
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article125.htm#p125.14
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article125.htm#p125.11

For anyone who wants to read legalese. Seem to be either a Class C or Class D felony

(c) For a class C felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and
shall not exceed fifteen years;
(d) For a class D felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and
shall not exceed seven years; and

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

It's because the kid is dead. No news is bad news in racing.

Could be in critical condition. He could still be alive, but barely

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

What the reports say is that it happened after a yellow flag lap. So Stewart's car was stopped or in a coasting/slowed state. That's the only way the car would fish tail anyway.

The only way?

So if I'm in a rear wheel drive car, and I jerk the wheel hard to one side while hitting the breaks, the back end won't slide at all?

[gocubsgo3822]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

You could always post screens in their comment section of the article. Will 100% get seen by them that way.

Ehhhh. Once again not looking for attention.

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Could be in critical condition. He could still be alive, but barely

I don't think it be so hush hush if he was alive.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo3822

The twitter and information blackout to me is fascinating.

You'd think someone who was at the track with a cell phone would have Tweeted something that would have been picked up by now.

[dmbmuskie]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

The only way?

So if I'm in a rear wheel drive car, and I jerk the wheel hard to one side while hitting the breaks, the back end won't slide at all?

You're not going to launch someone with the breaks on.

[dmbmuskie]

They cancelled the medical helicopter. Not like there was a level 1 trauma center a few minutes away.