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Old 10-05-2008, 04:01 AM   #121
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Uhhh, uh oh? Mistrial?

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"But now it's been revealed that several of those jurors have said they disagreed with that murder acquittal."
Nope. The judge knew about it before the trial. Maybe something to try for on appeal, but it's' a longshot. Either way, O.J. will sit in jail while his appeals play out.
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    Rot in jail OJ
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    Old 10-05-2008, 08:29 AM   #123
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    You speak as if you know what you're talking about, as if you were present in the courtroom to hear the presentation of facts, as if you actually know more than what you heard from watching 5 minutes of CNN.

    If his case were so weak, 12 semi-rational humans beings wouldn't vote to convict him.
    I actually have no life, so for the past three weeks all I did was watch the trial. I'd get home from class and watch it on CNN.com Live from like noon to 7 everyday.

    No joke either.
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    Old 10-05-2008, 10:25 AM   #124
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    Uhhh, uh oh? Mistrial?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27022386/?GT1=43001

    "But now it's been revealed that several of those jurors have said they disagreed with that murder acquittal."
    Saying you disagree with his previous verdict is one thing, and "having it out for OJ" because he disagree with his previous verdict is another.

    Simply disagreeing with his murder verdict in no way implies that such opinions will manifest themselves in a vengeful manner.

    For example, while 5 of the jurors indicated in the questionaire that they disagree with the murder verdict, all 12 of the jurors indicated that, all things considered, they could give OJ a fair trial.
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    Old 10-05-2008, 11:15 AM   #125
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    I actually have no life, so for the past three weeks all I did was watch the trial. I'd get home from class and watch it on CNN.com Live from like noon to 7 everyday.

    No joke either.
    don't type stuff like that with obama sig. gives him a bad name....
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    Old 10-05-2008, 11:34 AM   #126
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    don't type stuff like that with obama sig. gives him a bad name....
    Why? Because I'm a student with a lot of down time?
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    Old 10-05-2008, 11:36 AM   #127
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    As long as those 5 jurors didn't let their convictions cloud their verdict in this case, there's nothing wrong with how they felt.
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    The Karma Police always come around, it may take awhile but they always get your ass
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    Old 10-05-2008, 02:15 PM   #129
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    The Karma Police always come around, it may take awhile but they always get your ass
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    Old 10-05-2008, 03:52 PM   #130
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    Re: o.j simpson verdict

    Has anyone ever read about the Jason Simpson theory? It's really interesting.

    I found these on another forum and I think they're facts from the book that some dude wrote about OJ's son being the real killer.


    1. As an adolescent, Jason performed poorly in school and demostrated many antisocial behaviours.

    2. Considered a "problem child" at an early age. Documented in articles of interviews given by OJ.

    3. Jason overdosed on drugs and alcohol at age 14 and was rushed to hospital.

    4. Jason reportedly had difficulty communicating with his mother and at an early age moved in OJ and Nicole because Marguerite could not control him.

    5. As a teenager Jason flew into a fit of rage and attacked a statue of his father with a baseball bat.

    6. Jason stole his father's car and was turned in by Nicole.

    7. Ronald Shipp stated Jason began being physically abused by his father at a young age.

    8. Ronald Shipp described him as having pschological problems, along with abusing drugs and alcohol.

    9. Jason was treated at the UCLA Neuro-Psychiatirc Institute for a mental condition, later being diagnosed as "Intermittent Rage Disorder" accompanied by seizures. He was prescribed Depakote, a drug frequently prescribed to individuals suffering from rage.

    10. Jason dropped out or flunked out of USC.

    11. According to Shipp, Jason had possibly stalked Nicole Simpson while she lived at Gretna Green.

    12. According to Shipp, Jason and Nicole would go out dancing and partying together.

    13. On more than one occasion Jason left or was fired from his job as a prep chef. Indications were he was unable to get along with people of authority.

    14. Jason attempted suicide by stabbing himself with a pair of scissors.

    15. Jason, in a fit of rage, assaulted his girlfriend Jackie where in he nearly breaks her back by throwing her into an empty bathtub.

    16. Jason attacked his girlfriend Jackie with a chef's knife and cuts off her hair.

    17. Jason attempted suicide by cutting his wrists with a shard of broken glass.

    18. Jason attempted suicide a second time. This time by overdosing on Depakote. He was committed to the psychiatric ward at Saint John's hospital.

    19. Jason had repeatedly been warned not to use drugs and alcohol while taking medication, because it could further complicate his existing neurological condition but continued to do so.

    20. Jason was arrested for assaulting his former employer, Paul Goldberg, with a kitchen knife. At the time of the murders, Jason was still on probation for this earlier offense on Paul Goldberg.

    21. Just prior to the murders, Jason felt he was "going to rage," and checked into Cedars Sinai Hospital. Previously, when he was about to rage, he claimed to hallucinate by hearing voices of people who weren't there.

    22. Two months prior to the murders Jason, in a blind rage, assaulted his girlfriend, Jennifer Green, at his birthday party. Later that night, according to an article, he tried to strangle her.

    23. Two months prior to the murders Jason was known to have stopped taking his Depakote because, as he was reported to have said, "It's f**king with my head."

    24. On the night before the murders, Nicole had arranged to eat at Jackson's restaurant, where Jason was the chef, but she failed to show up the next night.

    25. At 7pm on the night of the murders, Nicole and her family ate at Mezzaluna's restaurant instead of at Jackson's, where Jason was the chef.

    26. According to Jennifer Green, and a waiter at Jackson's, Jason left the restaurant where he worked at around 9:45pm, approximately 45 mins to an hour prior to the murders.

    27. Jason's civil deposition indicated he did not spend the evening with Jennifer Green as she indicated, but went directly home after he dropped Jennifer off at her apartment.

    28. Jason had no alibi after 10pm, he claimed to watch TV until 3am.

    29. Supposedly Jason had an "air-tight" alibi that he was cooking for 200 people at Jackson's restaurant. On that particular night there were less than 40 patrons at the restaurant the entire night. Jason left before it closed.

    30. Experts established that the probable murder weapon was a chef's knife.

    31. Jason had his own chef knives and kept them with him.

    32. Jason had in his possession a set of chef knives when he left Jackson's restaurant at approximately 9:45pm on the night of the murders.

    33. Jason was allegedly upset that Nicole and her party did not come to Jackson's as arranged on the night of June 12, 1994.

    34. Jason's blood chemistry is supposed to have similar genetic characteristics as OJ's.

    35. OJ and Jason have approximately the same size feet. Jason also had access to OJ's clothes closet and is known to have taken items of clothing from his dad at will.

    36. James G. Cron, crime scene expert, has studied the investigative material and determined that Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect in the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.

    37. England crime scene experts, Tery Merston and his partner, Peter Harpur, stated OJ is not the killer of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman but in all probability, was at the crime scene after the murders. They both felt Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect.

    38. Dr. Harvey Davisson, Dr. William Flynn, Dr. William Tedford and Dr. Charles Keller reviewed Jason's records and felt that Jason Simpson is psychologically disturbed and in need of help.

    39. Robert Shapiro, OJ's attorney, has indicated that Jason was his first suspect expect for his "air-tight" alibi. The air-tight alibi has now proven to be false.

    40. Jason was never interviewed by any of the LA Police Law Enforcement Agencies nor the Prosecutor's Office. Nor was he asked to furnish an alibi for the evening of Sunday, June 12th, 1994 in conjuction with the killings. Nor, according to sources, were Jason's fingerprints examined in comparison to the unidentified fingerprints at the crime scene.

    41. Jason's psychiatrist shredded all of Jaosn's medical records after the murders.

    42. On the day after the murders, June 13, 1994, OJ hired a well-known criminal attorney to represent Jason. This was prior to OJ's arrest for the murders.

    43. Jason breaks through the police line to reach his father at the conclusion of the slow-speed car chase.

    44. Jason wouldn't give Jackie any straight answers about the murders.

    45. Marcia Clark and the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office considered this to be a "rage killing by an amatuer."

    46. Jason bolted from the funeral home, visibly upset, at the time of Nicole Simpson's funeral, not wanting to view Nicole's body.

    47. Jason was arrested for hit and run during OJ's trial.
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    You couldn't have stretched that out to 50? Really?

    Anyways, I still think it was the mob.
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    You couldn't have stretched that out to 50? Really?

    Anyways, I still think it was the mob.
    That's all I found where I found them. It only had 47 that I saw, otherwise I would have listed more if there was more.
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    Old 10-05-2008, 04:09 PM   #133
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    You coulda just made shit up. Like this.

    48. OJ was in the Naked Gun movies, thus giving him the forensic experience not to leave a messy crime scene.

    Now, do two more...
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    Old 10-05-2008, 05:28 PM   #134
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    You coulda just made shit up. Like this.

    48. OJ was in the Naked Gun movies, thus giving him the forensic experience not to leave a messy crime scene.

    Now, do two more...
    49. OJ had just eaten McDonalds prior to the murders. This means that for a minimum of two hours after eating there, he would have been stuck on the toilet with the shits.

    I can't think of one more right now.
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    50. He's fucking OJ, you know he didn't do this shit.
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    Old 10-06-2008, 04:38 PM   #136
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    Full verdict here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-C_wGZXHa0
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    Old 10-06-2008, 04:53 PM   #137
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    Has anyone ever read about the Jason Simpson theory? It's really interesting.

    I found these on another forum and I think they're facts from the book that some dude wrote about OJ's son being the real killer.


    ....
    32. Jason had in his possession a set of chef knives when he left Jackson's restaurant at approximately 9:45pm on the night of the murders.
    ...
    34. Jason's blood chemistry is supposed to have similar genetic characteristics as OJ's.

    35. OJ and Jason have approximately the same size feet. Jason also had access to OJ's clothes closet and is known to have taken items of clothing from his dad at will.

    36. James G. Cron, crime scene expert, has studied the investigative material and determined that Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect in the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.

    37. England crime scene experts, Tery Merston and his partner, Peter Harpur, stated OJ is not the killer of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman but in all probability, was at the crime scene after the murders. They both felt Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect.

    .....


    I've mentioned this in the past, but a friend-of-a-friend knew Dr. Henry Lee, the blood expert for the Defense. He stated that there was two blood's at the crime scene, but he was never asked who the other blood could have belonged to. According to the person I knew (who was a cop who knew Lee thru his work in Connecticut), he believed that Jason Simpson was with his father when the murders occurred.


    But the knife was OJ's. People forget that OJ purchased a knife before the murders. It was not introduced into evidence b/c the knife dealer sold his story to Hard Copy, and Marcia Clark thought that he made a bad witness b/c of that. But That was most likely the murder weapon.



    I still think OJ did it. I just think that Jason was there too.
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    I've mentioned this in the past, but a friend-of-a-friend knew Dr. Henry Lee, the blood expert for the Defense. He stated that there was two blood's at the crime scene, but he was never asked who the other blood could have belonged to. According to the person I knew (who was a cop who knew Lee thru his work in Connecticut), he believed that Jason Simpson was with his father when the murders occurred.


    But the knife was OJ's. People forget that OJ purchased a knife before the murders. It was not introduced into evidence b/c the knife dealer sold his story to Hard Copy, and Marcia Clark thought that he made a bad witness b/c of that. But That was most likely the murder weapon.



    I still think OJ did it. I just think that Jason was there too.
    I don't think that the knife was ever recovered, was it? I thought all they had was OJ purchasing a knife from the store. I don't think they ever recovered the actual weapon. I could be wrong though.
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    Bump

    Just watched the June 17 1994 30 for 30. So I found this thread.

    From what I heard O.J during his football and acting days was a very nice and likable person. Then he became this mentally ill sociopath bastard. I wonder if he was always Ill and living a lie his whole life.
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    Getting hit in the head (and the rest of his body) for a living probably didn't help.
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    Just watched the June 17 1994 30 for 30. So I found this thread.

    From what I heard O.J during his football and acting days was a very nice and likable person. Then he became this mentally ill sociopath bastard. I wonder if he was always Ill and living a lie his whole life.
    Might be the best one they've made.
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    Just watched the June 17 1994 30 for 30. So I found this thread.

    From what I heard O.J during his football and acting days was a very nice and likable person. Then he became this mentally ill sociopath bastard. I wonder if he was always Ill and living a lie his whole life.
    It's crazy for me to think that you weren't even born when the first OJ trial happened. Not a knock at you at all.....just makes me feel old.
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    It's crazy for me to think that you weren't even born when the first OJ trial happened. Not a knock at you at all.....just makes me feel old.
    Crazy. I remember watching the verdict in school. I was in 7th or 8th grade. I feel old, too.

    In other news, the new FX Series American Crime Story is providing a dramatized version of the OJ Simpson fiasco, starring Cuba Gooding, Jr. as OJ.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2788432/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1
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    Just watched the June 17 1994 30 for 30. So I found this thread.

    From what I heard O.J during his football and acting days was a very nice and likable person. Then he became this mentally ill sociopath bastard. I wonder if he was always Ill and living a lie his whole life.
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    Getting hit in the head (and the rest of his body) for a living probably didn't help.
    OJ was a raging coke addict for most of his adult life. Friend of a friend was very tight with OJ.


    OJ was always a bad guy; he just faked it very well in public.
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    OJ was a raging coke addict for most of his adult life. Friend of a friend was very tight with OJ.


    OJ was always a bad guy; he just faked it very well in public.
    I feel like there is chance he was an okay guy early in his life and the drug addiction was where the turn was. I have some friends that were great people and then were completely disengaged and lacked any care for anyone besides themselves once that addiction took over. It's just not as obvious as other drugs.
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    It's crazy for me to think that you weren't even born when the first OJ trial happened. Not a knock at you at all.....just makes me feel old.
    The Casey Anthony case is the closest thing I have seen to compare to the O.J case. O.J case was probably alittle bigger.

    Both IMO got away with murder.
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    I remember listening to the Casey Anthony trial on serius XM Radio almost the whole way to the breach ( a 6 hour trip) . That's some crazy stuff.
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    Old 01-04-2016, 10:41 AM   #148
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    Re: o.j simpson verdict

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    Crazy. I remember watching the verdict in school. I was in 7th or 8th grade. I feel old, too.

    In other news, the new FX Series American Crime Story is providing a dramatized version of the OJ Simpson fiasco, starring Cuba Gooding, Jr. as OJ.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2788432/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1

    I was in 8th grade. I had shop class that period and the teacher put the TV on so we could watch the verdict. Lunch was the next period, and talking to people, it seemed like every teacher put it on so the kids (or more likely, so they) could watch.

    Crazy.
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    Old 03-04-2016, 08:29 AM   #149
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    Re: o.j simpson verdict

    OJ back in the news.


    http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/04/oj-sim...-nicole-brown/



    should have taken the knife with him and thrown it in the trash at the Airport
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    Old 03-04-2016, 09:10 AM   #150
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    Re: o.j simpson verdict

    Ignoring the questionable nonsense about the shmo that kept the knife for years...

    I'm not a paralegal so I have to ask, does this really matter because of double jeopardy?
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