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Old 10-17-2008, 12:11 PM   #31
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Re: KISS Is the Most Underrated Mega-Famous Band of All Time.

no they aren't. they're so bad that they're actually overrated.
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    Figures: Been listening to my iPod since 8:00 this morning, here at work, and just now Detroit Rock City comes on.
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    I think you meant to say overrated instead of underrated.
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    I think you meant to say overrated instead of underrated.
    No, Dan the Bastard, I meant underrated.
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    I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I'd say it would have to be sacriligious for any real KISS fan to think the best album that they have made is one that doesn't include the original four members.
    Why would you say that? Peter isn't that great of a drummer. I strongly prefer Eric Singer and Eric Carr to him. I enjoyed the band more when those two were a part of it. As for Ace, some of his stuff is alright, but I believe that Bruce Kulick and Vinnie Vincent were more than adequate replacements. I think that's why I like Carnival of Souls so much, it was a Bruce Kulick album basically. He even played bass on a lot of it. KISS doesn't need the 4 original members to be together to be good. Paul & Gene are fine without the other two. However, Gene needs Paul in order to write good songs. Gene's solo stuff sucks, while Paul's latest album was great

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    Nah. It's acceptable because it was a great album.

    Now if he picked Hot in the Shade...
    & I agree about Hot in the Shade. It's an alright album, but nothing spectacular. You're right about Goin' Blind. That's one of my favorite songs by KISS. Got to Choose is another great song from HTH.
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    Old 10-17-2008, 01:39 PM   #36
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    Big fan of KISS here. Bought Dynasty in 1979 on vinyl. I was a whopping 5 years old. Was Paul Stanley that year for Halloween. I guess I am sucker, but I still love their music. Outside of my DMB collection, KISS is second in terms of albums I own by one band/group/artist.

    Top 3 KISS albums for me:
    1) Destroyer
    2) Creatures of the Night
    3) ALIVE! I still rock it to Firehouse and Black Diamond.
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    Old 10-17-2008, 02:45 PM   #37
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    I lost all respect for KISS when they did their tour with Aerosmith about 5 years ago. I had gone to the previous 3 Aerosmith shows when they were in town and never paid more than $65. The year before they toured with KISS, Aerosmith toured with Kid Rock and the ticket was the afore mentioned $65. Then, KISS joins the bill and the ticket prices jumped to $125. They nearly doubled the price. For two (approaching) washed up 70/80's bands, that was enough. I haven't seen Aerosmith since, and to KISS, I say... Eff you, KISS.
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    Old 10-17-2008, 05:27 PM   #38
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    Why would you say that? Peter isn't that great of a drummer. I strongly prefer Eric Singer and Eric Carr to him. I enjoyed the band more when those two were a part of it. As for Ace, some of his stuff is alright, but I believe that Bruce Kulick and Vinnie Vincent were more than adequate replacements. I think that's why I like Carnival of Souls so much, it was a Bruce Kulick album basically. He even played bass on a lot of it. KISS doesn't need the 4 original members to be together to be good. Paul & Gene are fine without the other two. However, Gene needs Paul in order to write good songs. Gene's solo stuff sucks, while Paul's latest album was great



    & I agree about Hot in the Shade. It's an alright album, but nothing spectacular. You're right about Goin' Blind. That's one of my favorite songs by KISS. Got to Choose is another great song from HTH.
    Melvins covered it, it was amazing.
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    Old 10-17-2008, 08:54 PM   #39
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    ive seen KISS twice in concert, and both times were great and fun as hell.
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    Old 10-18-2008, 01:24 AM   #40
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    Never been but a casual fan. But I have a couple of friends who are mega fans.

    I don't mind KISS though.
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    Old 10-18-2008, 11:21 AM   #41
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    Everything from the first album through Love Gun is classic. Their 80's music is hit and miss but Creatures of the Night is a great heavy album.
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    Old 10-18-2008, 12:13 PM   #42
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    Re: KISS Is the Most Underrated Mega-Famous Band of All Time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4vMQOOiUY


    Ace Frehley from the Frehley solo album - with Kiss backing him up.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtNx_mDKwRw


    Nothing To Lose (and that's from the 90's when they could barely move)



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuQR_fZPYmI



    Old school - Firehouse from 74 (note Gene's old makeup)



    and finally...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufAWWAfGX0


    Acrobat 1974


    Listen to Acrobat... that's their 'Halloween'. hard core.



    Underrated band.
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    People talk crap about KISS all the time. They weren't the greatest musicians, and they didn't have poetic lyrics. They did write catchy songs that were entertaining however. It was a band where all four members wrote and sang. They never get proper appreciation because of their image and their aggressive marketing.

    Unless you were a kid in the late 70's you don't know how big they were.
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    Kiss Sucks
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    You suck!

    Seriously though, I'm gonna be in Vegas tomorrow. We can talk about your lack of taste in music.
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    They also set up a phenomenal mini-golf course in Vegas. God bless them. Amazing band.
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    Most overrated band in rock history, IMO.
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    Most overrated band in rock history, IMO.
    Yup. Fucking awful
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    Old 02-18-2017, 05:05 PM   #49
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    Kiss is rated exactly correct. They have some catchy songs and a lot of songs that you do not care about. They get extremely limited radio play and only spoken about sparingly (and most the time it is not about their music, but rather, the business savviness of Gene Simmons).
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRv8-0xS1bw

    Frehley doing Cold Gin - featuring Mike McCready - from his 2016 album.


    Call Frehley overrated - I double dog dare you.
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    Most overrated band in rock history, IMO.
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    kiss is pretty awesome
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    Kiss is rated exactly correct. They have some catchy songs and a lot of songs that you do not care about. They get extremely limited radio play and only spoken about sparingly (and most the time it is not about their music, but rather, the business savviness of Gene Simmons).
    More gold albums than any American band ever. Several top 20 radio hits, and several classic rock staples.

    They make catchy pop-hard rock. It's awesome.
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    Kiss is okay. I saw them with Motley Crue in 2012, it was fun.

    They are the definition of arena rock.
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    That more Gold comment is very misleading. Elvis has like 4x the number of gold albums and 5 times the platinum albums, but isn't considered a band.
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    I like the movie "Detroit Rock City"
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    That more Gold comment is very misleading. Elvis has like 4x the number of gold albums and 5 times the platinum albums, but isn't considered a band.
    The point was that they weren't some minor success. And it's an honest statement, they do hold dat record for an American band.
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    Who is saying they were a minor success? I'm just saying they suck and are vastly overrated. Bieber isn't a minor success and he sucks, too. KISS:Bieber is a better argument than KISS:Greatness.
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    Kiss is rated exactly correct. They have some catchy songs and a lot of songs that you do not care about. They get extremely limited radio play and only spoken about sparingly (and most the time it is not about their music, but rather, the business savviness of Gene Simmons).

    I think that's pretty much right on correct, at best.

    What seems in much less dispute is the lack of respect that Gene Simmons has among many other musicians, as there seems to be literally nothing that he wouldn't be lightning fast in trying to license out with the band name to make even one more dollar. seems to have a fairly low bar for integrity.
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