Did DMB destroy their legacy with the release of Everyday?

[smb41]

SSIA.

Discuss.

[bartender_man]

They lost a lot of fans with that but it did not destroy their legacy. They also lost a fans with the release of the song "Crash". If anything, Stand up destroyed their legacy.

[spoot388]

and what would their legacy have been had they not released everyday?


it seems to me their legacy with everyday being released is going to be that of road warriors who were one of the top live draws for a over a decade and helped change the landscape of music in the 90s and 2000s, long lasting popularity that led them to have more albums debut at #1 than any other act in music history, and that of a group of guys who were low key and not in the tabloids, humble, and used their fame and fortune to help others. seems like a pretty good legacy to me.

[Dannyyankou]

I don't think so.

Everyday came out in 2001.

They were the highest grossing touring act from 2000-2009.

[Gene Parmesan]

I don't know about legacy, but they lost a lot of the magic that made them so exciting. We only catch glimpses of it now.

[MarvinBerry]

Originally Posted by spoot388

and what would their legacy have been had they not released everyday?


it seems to me their legacy with everyday being released is going to be that of road warriors who were one of the top live draws for a over a decade and helped change the landscape of music in the 90s and 2000s, long lasting popularity that led them to have more albums debut at #1 than any other act in music history, and that of a group of guys who were low key and not in the tabloids, humble, and used their fame and fortune to help others. seems like a pretty good legacy to me.

[salrx95]

Originally Posted by spoot388

and what would their legacy have been had they not released everyday?


it seems to me their legacy with everyday being released is going to be that of road warriors who were one of the top live draws for a over a decade and helped change the landscape of music in the 90s and 2000s, long lasting popularity that led them to have more albums debut at #1 than any other act in music history, and that of a group of guys who were low key and not in the tabloids, humble, and used their fame and fortune to help others. seems like a pretty good legacy to me.

This is a great post. Some of my immediate thoughts are in here. Kudos to you.

It was a definite change in sound and I distinctly recall telling new friends and coworkers I met during that time period that hearing TSB on the radio is a song not on par with the band I fell in love with.

[theCaptain_]

Originally Posted by spoot388

and what would their legacy have been had they not released everyday?


it seems to me their legacy with everyday being released is going to be that of road warriors who were one of the top live draws for a over a decade and helped change the landscape of music in the 90s and 2000s, long lasting popularity that led them to have more albums debut at #1 than any other act in music history, and that of a group of guys who were low key and not in the tabloids, humble, and used their fame and fortune to help others. seems like a pretty good legacy to me.

So.....this guy pretty much nailed it

[dtv001]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

I don't think so.

Everyday came out in 2001.

They were the highest grossing touring act from 2000-2009.

This.. it was their best selling album. It put them into super stardom and on a stadium tour. What legacy does that hurt? All the "hardcores" who wanted more of the big 3? Their legacy is still growing. As mentioned above, 00-09 they were the top grossing touring act...

If it ruined it for anyone, its half the people on this site. That's about it. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed their sound pre Everyday vs afterward, but if legacy is measured in fan loyalty, money, and radio success, one could possibly argue Everyday was the band's biggest album.

[space_raven]

No, not at all. Everyday is a good album.

[TimHonks]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

I don't think so.

Everyday came out in 2001.

They were the highest grossing touring act from 2000-2009.

This.

[cry_minarets458]

No.

I think their last four years of tours have tarnished their legacy

[but1well]

I think this is a bit dramatic.

I do think that the fall out with Lillywhite and the replacement with Steve Harris changed their sound forever. To me with each album (including the LWS in this opinion) their sound was evolving but incredible. Then Busted stuff took some of the greatness from the LWS, but in my opinion lost some of the brilliance and feel of the other 3 previously produced albums. Then the Glen Ballard encourages gives Dave the electric and usurps the rest of the band on writing the album. I think those two things irreversibly changed their path and sound. Although none of this has to do with their legacy, which lies in their touring.

[Gene Parmesan]

I think highest grossing act is overrated. They are also one of the hardest working acts. I bet their pull per show is not even in the top 10.

"Destroyed legacy" is obviously over the top, but they definitely reached their high water mark right before Everyday. It had an effect.

[drop2d]

Originally Posted by Gene Parmesan

I think highest grossing act is overrated. They are also one of the hardest working acts. I bet their pull per show is not even in the top 10.

"Destroyed legacy" is obviously over the top, but they definitely reached their high water mark right before Everyday. It had an effect.

This.

It definitely damaged it. Many fans at the time ran for the hills. Just in my group of friends, (disclaimer: relatively small sample size) 2/3rds gave up.

[bustedstuff88]

Originally Posted by drop2d

This.

It definitely damaged it. Many fans at the time ran for the hills. Just in my group of friends, (disclaimer: relatively small sample size) 2/3rds gave up.

Not to highjack, but where did those who ran go? What are they following now, or what did they follow if they've gotten to the point where they aren't hitting shows anymore?

I love the feeling of live music. Ive been searching for other acts to follow. Who else out there has something similar to what DMB does? By that I mean consistent touring, something you can plan your summers around, make an event out of it type following? I suppose Phish or Dead & Co. are obvious answers, and they are both on my list to check out, but younger bands that may have many years left are kind of my target.

DMB isn't going to be around forever folks. I need alternatives.

[dobyblue]

Weren't they playing Soldier Field, Foxboro Field, Giants Stadium, Ralph Wilson, Mile High, etc-type places up to three years BEFORE Everyday came out? In fact, didn't Everyday's release mark the final year they would play places this big?

[theCaptain_]

Let's feel lucky this band didn't call it quits when Roi passed away. Led Zepellin called it quits after John Bonham died. I get he was their drummer, but Dave could have been so overwhelmed emotionally that the last 7-8 years may have never existed.

Grateful they are still around.

[Seek#41Up]

Everyday was an interesting time. It definitely did damage to them but I think in the long run it would have been easily recoverable by releasing Busted Stuff and then creating their next album around Good Good Time, Joyride, Sugar Will, and Crazy Easy. Instead they went the route of Stand Up and if anything that was the beginning of the end.

[Dramageek]

Eh, "Destroyed their legacy" is a bit hyperbolic. It's kind of like a Van Halen/Van Hagar thing. Van Halen started getting way poppy when Hagar joined, and many were like "Oh, they're going in this direction now. No thanks. Bye." DMB got on a totally different track with Everyday, and they never really found their way back to where they were. Early fans definitely left (though that's kind of been happening since they released UTTAD. I watch the Van Ryper videos and wonder if any of those hippies dancing in the front row still listen to them.) But they will always have their earlier work. Their output from 1991-2000 was so incredible, they're still coasting on it.

Plus, it's a matter of perspective. Many out there don't think DMB has much of a legacy to begin with.

And I agree about Stand Up. I think many people would have given the band a mulligan on Everday if they had made an album centered around the 2004 songs as opposed to Stand Up. Stand Up I'm sure put the last nail in for a number of fans.

[bustedstuff88]

Originally Posted by Dramageek

Eh, "Destroyed their legacy" is a bit hyperbolic. It's kind of like a Van Halen/Van Hagar thing. Van Halen started getting way poppy when Hagar joined, and many were like "Oh, they're going in this direction now. No thanks. Bye." DMB got on a totally different track with Everyday, and they never really found their way back to where they were. Early fans definitely left (though that's kind of been happening since they released UTTAD. I watch the Van Ryper videos and wonder if any of those hippies dancing in the front row still listen to them.) But they will always have their earlier work. Their output from 1991-2000 was so incredible, they're still coasting on it.

Plus, it's a matter of perspective. Many out there don't think DMB has much of a legacy to begin with.

And I agree about Stand Up. I think many people would have given the band a mulligan on Everday if they had made an album centered around the 2004 songs as opposed to Stand Up. Stand Up I'm sure put the last nail in for a number of fans.

I have wondered the exact same thing and the answer I usually come up with is a resounding "No".

[Dramageek]

Originally Posted by bustedstuff88

I have wondered the exact same thing and the answer I usually come up with is a resounding "No".

Agreed. Though i would have loved to see the band back then.

[trippingant]

Originally Posted by Gene Parmesan

"Destroyed legacy" is obviously over the top, but they definitely reached their high water mark right before Everyday. It had an effect.

Came here to post this. Everything up until then had been a skyrocketing ascent with 1998-2001 being the peak, and everything since then has been slowly descending, with their change in sound and direction being the catalyst.

[theCaptain_]

Stand Up, the actual studio versions of the songs.. are atrocious and I cannot even listen to them

[drop2d]

Originally Posted by bustedstuff88

Not to highjack, but where did those who ran go? What are they following now, or what did they follow if they've gotten to the point where they aren't hitting shows anymore?

I love the feeling of live music. Ive been searching for other acts to follow. Who else out there has something similar to what DMB does? By that I mean consistent touring, something you can plan your summers around, make an event out of it type following? I suppose Phish or Dead & Co. are obvious answers, and they are both on my list to check out, but younger bands that may have many years left are kind of my target.

DMB isn't going to be around forever folks. I need alternatives.

Just stopped following DMB and going to shows. I don't think anything necessarily took DMB's place. Just listened to other bands more

[DMBZeppelin]

It didn't destroy their legacy, but it lessened what it might have been.

[RSSR]

They lost a lot of their magic, their air of invincibility, with the release of Everyday. Before Everyday, it felt like they were on their way to changing music and ushering in a new era like Nirvana did. Just watch the MTV Total Request Live broadcast and ask yourself if a room full of fans would erupt the way they did when the band walks into the room nowadays.

[misschung]

Not to highjack, but where did those who ran go? What are they following now, or what did they follow if they've gotten to the point where they aren't hitting shows anymore?

Dead and Co?

[blaise34]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Weren't they playing Soldier Field, Foxboro Field, Giants Stadium, Ralph Wilson, Mile High, etc-type places up to three years BEFORE Everyday came out? In fact, didn't Everyday's release mark the final year they would play places this big?

This

[comeandsee41]

if they finish and release lillywhite session as it was - or close to it, the band would cemented itself as legendary.

not speaking rhetorically, but what other bands go 4 for 4 in the studio?