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Originally Posted by Lcsulla
People are biased towards Ryan and I have no idea why - ignorance, the fact that he pitched in a lot of our lifetimes or homerism is my best guess. He was by any standard a great pitcher but the best of all time? Give me a break. He might be the most over-rated starter ever. Like I said though, he was still great but I wouldn't put him in a top ten list.
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Originally Posted by DMBzilla
Steve Carlton had one of the best single seasons in the modern era, won 4 Cy Youngs, 2 World Series, a Gold Glove, was an all star 10 times, and had one of the best single seasons in the modern era. He absolutely deserves to be on this list.
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Originally Posted by Lcsulla
Agreed, quite possibly the best lefty starter ever. No idea why he is not on here. He is certainly more deserving than Ryan.
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Well first of all, as a guy who's made way too many polls myself and all the flack I've taken from ants over the years in this kind of area, I feel compelled to come to justink's defense a little bit here in pointing out you're always hampered by the limitations of Ants polls, having only 10 options in any given one. Invariably you irk a certain group of people in what option(s) you leave off because, again, in the end there can be only 10.
But then going further from that point (& I swear I'd still be saying this and showing these links even if it wasn't myself who made this past polls to begin with
I'd like to think I'd do it (so long as I remembered) whoever it was that originally made them) for a question like this, as broad as "the greatest starting pitcher ever", ultimately I think a general pot of 10 is just way too inferior. And it was part of that thinking that inspired me in the first place for when I made the polls for Best LH Starter of all time, and then Best RH Starter (that eventually became a whole series, one for each position on the field). but shit, even then I had guys pissed at me for leaving certain names off each list
So for the hell of it, for your review...
Best Lefthanded Starting Pitcher Of All Time
http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=257781
Best Righthanded Starting Pitcher Of All Time
http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=257962
but at least I managed to get in there most (if not every) additional name that's been argued about in this thread for not having made justink's poll.
(yes, this is what I do here at the end of a Thursday night to try and trick myself into convincing myself that I matter.. lol)