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Old 03-29-2015, 06:13 PM   #77641
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Re: Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

Why do I feel like a Wisconsin/Michigan State final is going to happen?
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    FSU for school, Duke for mama. I pull for her as she is my last family member.

    This board... so sad. No one had any part of a school.
    Was sincerely interested. I am not in the camp that you need to go to a school to root for it. However, if you jump on the bandwagon of a college team like many do for Duke that's more sad than jumping on the bandwagon for a team like the Yankees

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    Someone should tell him to show it to his scumbag dad. Oh the amazing irony.
    What did Steve Alford do? I'm not defending him, I just didn't know he was controversial.
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    FSU for football, Duke for basketball. I pull for front runners only.

    This board... so sad. No one had any part of a school.
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    Old 03-29-2015, 09:33 PM   #77645
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    Was sincerely interested. I am not in the camp that you need to go to a school to root for it. However, if you jump on the bandwagon of a college team like many do for Duke that's more sad than jumping on the bandwagon for a team like the Yankees








    Isn't it the same thing?

    I've told my explanation on here many times before. One of the first games I ever recall watching was the Laettner shot game. I liked Duke from that moment on.
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    Old 03-29-2015, 09:58 PM   #77646
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    Isn't it the same thing?

    I've told my explanation on here many times before. One of the first games I ever recall watching was the Laettner shot game. I liked Duke from that moment on.
    I was actually a fan of Duke when I was a kid for two reasons. One, my first stepfather was a semi-close acquaintance of Coach K, and used to tell us how kind he was. And two, the Laettner shot game. That's actually the first college basketball game I have any recollection of, and I still remember it like it was yesterday, despite the fact that I was 7 at the time.

    It's fun to hate on Duke now, but I still appreciate the fact that they are the reason I got into college basketball as a kid.
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    Why do I feel like a Wisconsin/Michigan State final is going to happen?
    Duke is going to smoke the Spartys. Won't even be worth watching.
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    Old 03-29-2015, 10:14 PM   #77648
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    exactly where I wanna be. if Wisconsin loses, 6 dudes (most likely) in my pool share 200. if Wisconsin wins, i win it all.

    but in my heart I know Kentucky/Duke would on paper be the biggest game of my lifetime, so i'm silently rooting for that too. Wisconsin/Michigan St. would piss me off even if i were to win $1000 on it (not really, but you get it)
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    I don't think Wisky gives Kentucky too much of a game - I think Kentucky is too athletic for them. Duke, if they beat Michigan State, poses a much bigger challenge.
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    I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Michigan State beat Duke. Not sure why people are completely writing them off at this point.
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    Old 03-30-2015, 06:44 AM   #77651
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    Duke already beat Sparty once this season. Don't see the reason why they won't do it again. They're winning games without playing great offense right now and Sparty has no one who can check Okafor.
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    Old 03-30-2015, 06:56 AM   #77652
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    Duke already beat Sparty once this season. Don't see the reason why they won't do it again. They're winning games without playing great offense right now and Sparty has no one who can check Okafor.
    Like seemingly every year, Michigan State is playing a thousand times better than they were early in the year. I'm not saying they will beat Duke, I actually think Duke will win, but I think it's going to be a really good game. I wouldn't be surprised a bit with either outcome.
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    Old 03-30-2015, 07:34 AM   #77653
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    Duke already beat Sparty once this season. Don't see the reason why they won't do it again. They're winning games without playing great offense right now and Sparty has no one who can check Okafor.
    They beat them by 10 -- four and a half months ago

    Agree partially about the Okafor thing, but acting like MSU is incapable of pulling the upset seems strange to me. For the record, I do think Duke will win, but anything can happen in these games.
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    No way anyone can write off MSU. They are on a roll right now and deserve to be in the final four the way they are playing.

    They could easily beat Duke, and will be even more motivated since they lost to them already. The 2 best coaches in the game going against each other. It will be fun.

    Pretty cool that 3 of the 4 teams in the final four played in the Champions Classic earlier in the year.
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    Old 03-30-2015, 08:25 AM   #77655
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    Not saying they can't beat Duke, just don't think they will.

    And are they really playing that well? I haven't watched any of their tournament games and said to myself, "wow, they're really playing great."
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    Old 03-30-2015, 08:28 AM   #77656
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    Not saying they can't beat Duke, just don't think they will.
    Exactly this. Having the ability to beat a team is one thing, but being consistent enough with those abilities, and possibly needing the other team to be "off" is another thing.

    I don't think they'll win. They CAN win...
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    Old 03-30-2015, 08:44 AM   #77657
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    Re: Preseason NCAA Basketball Poll is released

    Michigan State is not beating Duke.
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    Old 03-30-2015, 09:19 AM   #77658
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    Michigan State has been playing better than their 7 seed, certainly, but I don't think good enough to beat Duke.

    I actually see Wisconsin as having a better chance to beat Kentucky than Duke. They have really strong shooters to spread the floor just like we did, but also actually have some size to rebound/do something to try to stop Kentucky's big men.
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    kentucky vs. wisconsin is just an amazing matchup. so many colliding forces.

    you can make a very convincing case that kentucky's is the best defense over the kenpom era (2002-today). they are by far the best defensive team going on raw points per possession, but of course offensive efficiency as a whole has gone down over the past few years, so when you compare their defense to the greater landscape, you can make arguments that maybe there have been 1 or 2 better defensive teams. still, the point remains: no team over the past 13 seasons has allowed fewer points per possession than kentucky.

    on the other hand, there is no argument as far as wisconsin goes. they are the best offensive team over the past 13 years, and there's no two ways about it. they have scored more points per possession than any team over the last 13 years, and did it against a very formidable defensive strength of schedule.

    both teams have just tons of size.

    wisconsin has a great deal of experience; of course kentucky is the opposite.

    wisconsin gets very few bench minutes, kentucky obviously gets more from their bench than almost any team in basketball.

    wisconsin never, ever turns the ball over and kentucky turns their opponents over a ton.

    I think the difference is in kentucky's offense vs. wisconsin's D. Kentucky is a very good offensive team, on balance, and wisconsin is just mediocre on D.

    Very very excited to see it though.

    EDIT: forgot one; kentucky is an amazing offensive rebounding team; wisconsin is one of the best in the country at keeping their opponents off the offensive glass

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    Old 03-30-2015, 09:33 AM   #77660
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    Michigan State has been playing better than their 7 seed, certainly, but I don't think good enough to beat Duke.

    I actually see Wisconsin as having a better chance to beat Kentucky than Duke. They have really strong shooters to spread the floor just like we did, but also actually have some size to rebound/do something to try to stop Kentucky's big men.
    I think ND has much more athletic guards than Wisconsin. Their speed gave us fits. So I think that is one edge ND had. Wisconsin is bigger but I'm not sure how they'll handle UK's athleticism. I do worry about how they can shoot it though. I think the Arizona game was an anomaly but they can get hot.

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    Old 03-30-2015, 09:36 AM   #77661
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    I think the real question obviously is how much rest and travel Wisconsin has/has to do compared to Kentucky
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    AP All-American Teams:

    FIRST TEAM
    Cauley-Stein
    Grant
    Kaminsky
    Okafor
    Russell

    SECOND TEAM
    Brogdon
    Portis
    Towns
    Tuttle
    Wright

    THIRD TEAM
    Christmas
    Hield
    Niang
    Pangos
    Wiltjer

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    Old 03-30-2015, 10:11 AM   #77663
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    I think the real question obviously is how much rest and travel Wisconsin has/has to do compared to Kentucky


    Gotta like Wisconsin's chances. They got an extra 3 hours of rest.
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    I was actually a fan of Duke when I was a kid for two reasons. One, my first stepfather was a semi-close acquaintance of Coach K, and used to tell us how kind he was. And two, the Laettner shot game. That's actually the first college basketball game I have any recollection of, and I still remember it like it was yesterday, despite the fact that I was 7 at the time.

    It's fun to hate on Duke now, but I still appreciate the fact that they are the reason I got into college basketball as a kid.
    I was a huge duke fan as a kid. Loved coach K. Was my dream to play for him someday. Then I realized I was white and I wouldn't exceed 6 ft.

    Baseball became more of a focus when I figured that out.
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    Isn't it the same thing?

    I've told my explanation on here many times before. One of the first games I ever recall watching was the Laettner shot game. I liked Duke from that moment on.
    no better time to hop on a bandwagon then right as the best player in the country makes a once in a lifetime shot to go to the team's third straight final four, after having won the national title the year before
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    while I'm never one to call for an end to any razzing of duke fans, I seriously think that fans telling other fans who they're allowed to root for is literally the worst thing about sports

    worse than ncaa not paying players
    worse than domestic violence
    worse than chris benoit

    it's just awful. who the hell is anybody to tell anybody else what club they're allowed to join?
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    I didn't mean to start a thing, only commented cause it was about duke
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    I started liking Duke because of Bobby Hurley. After watching him for four years, just kind of kept watching them I guess.
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    I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Michigan State beat Duke. Not sure why people are completely writing them off at this point.
    I just have seen this play out before. Duke is just a much better team. Kentucky/Wisconsin will be another classic, but Duke is gonna roll.
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    AP All-American Teams:

    FIRST TEAM
    Cauley-Stein
    Grant
    Kaminsky
    Okafor
    Russell

    SECOND TEAM
    Brogdon
    Portis
    Towns
    Tuttle
    Wright

    THIRD TEAM
    Christmas
    Hield
    Niang
    Pangos
    Wiltjer
    at Towns being second team and then potentially the #1 pick. Cal has a team full of 1st team All-Americans this year and plays them part-time. I haven't loved a team this much since the 96 Cats.
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