Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA..... - Antsmarching.org Forums - Dave Matthews Band Discussion

Go Back   Antsmarching.org Forums - Dave Matthews Band Discussion > General Discussion > DMBc Discussion


Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-03-2015, 08:06 PM   #1
arriflex
 
arriflex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 684

Shows Seen: 29

DMB Hub Stubs: 12

My Tour Central Stats

Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

....and I remember why that was such an amazing summer.

Start here and click the next several shows.

http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...=13&where=2000
__________________
Rashawn is a great addition to the band, but Roi kept the screeching triple B flat over C sharp shit in check.
arriflex is offline   Reply With Quote

  • Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here
  • Old 07-03-2015, 08:09 PM   #2
    crashintonickdm
    Watching the wheels
     
    crashintonickdm's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2002
    Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
    Posts: 74,120

    Shows Seen: 81

    DMB Hub Stubs: 27

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    crashintonickdm is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-03-2015, 09:09 PM   #3
    bowa36
     
    bowa36's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2002
    Posts: 13,862

    Shows Seen: 0

    DMB Hub Stubs: 7

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    I love doing this, man. Just so good

    Those first two shows are fantastic, I even have a printed stage setlist of 6/20.
    It's nice to just journey through the tours once in awhile.
    __________________
    When it's not the colors that matter,
    but that they'll all fade away
    bowa36 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-03-2015, 09:17 PM   #4
    TwoStep2888
     
    TwoStep2888's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Mar 2004
    Location: WI
    Posts: 71,084

    Shows Seen: 7

    DMB Hub Stubs: 8

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    2000 DMB so good
    __________________
    trouble get behind me now, trouble let me be
    TwoStep2888 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-03-2015, 09:26 PM   #5
    Trippingchris
    Zombie Happens
     
    Trippingchris's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Feb 2002
    Location: Seattle, WA
    Posts: 933

    Shows Seen: 69

    DMB Hub Stubs: 25

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    This is around the time where it was becoming easier to get tapes much quicker online. I remember waiting in anticipation to grab the new songs to see how they sounded. I couldn't stop listening to Grey Street when a tape was finally released. Such a great time period, music wise, for the band.
    Trippingchris is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-04-2015, 08:43 AM   #6
    deadendstreet
     
    Join Date: May 2007
    Posts: 2,022

    Shows Seen: 0

    DMB Hub Stubs: 1

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Good times. This was at the height of my DMB fandom. I loved that summer. I remember downloading Grey Street, SUAD and Bartender and just listening to them over and over. I also just bought my first CDR burner and was able to burn the songs to a CD and listen to them in my car. What a great time.
    __________________
    Beau
    deadendstreet is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-04-2015, 09:26 AM   #7
    lockman21
    Yandle Award 2014-15
     
    lockman21's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2007
    Posts: 28,382

    Shows Seen: 240

    DMB Hub Stubs: 32

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Man, DMB used to be something special. Such a shame.
    __________________
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ View Post
    lockman21 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-04-2015, 11:12 AM   #8
    DMBstandUP1984
    Seemingly Ranch
     
    DMBstandUP1984's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2005
    Posts: 95,579

    Shows Seen: 34

    DMB Hub Stubs: 12

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    what is Butch up to these days?
    DMBstandUP1984 is online now   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-04-2015, 03:42 PM   #9
    C.S.
    I lurk you long time...
     
    C.S.'s Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2002
    Location: Augusta, GA
    Posts: 492

    Shows Seen: 16

    DMB Hub Stubs: 12

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Ah, summer 2000. Feel that anticipation building, Building, BUILDING. Rabid fandom building, Building, BUILDING!!!!

    Book 5 shows for 2001, gonna be so sweet!

    Everyday.

    Damn.
    C.S. is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-04-2015, 10:08 PM   #10
    Trippingchris
    Zombie Happens
     
    Trippingchris's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Feb 2002
    Location: Seattle, WA
    Posts: 933

    Shows Seen: 69

    DMB Hub Stubs: 25

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by deadendstreet View Post
    Good times. This was at the height of my DMB fandom. I loved that summer. I remember downloading Grey Street, SUAD and Bartender and just listening to them over and over. I also just bought my first CDR burner and was able to burn the songs to a CD and listen to them in my car. What a great time.
    It felt like a glimmer into the quality of songs they'd eventually release. It was almost BTCS Part 2. Then all of a sudden the band started performing "If You Give a Mouse a Cookie" followed by "If you give a Moose a Muffin."
    Trippingchris is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2015, 08:35 PM   #11
    arriflex
     
    arriflex's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2009
    Posts: 684

    Shows Seen: 29

    DMB Hub Stubs: 12

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Trippingchris View Post
    It felt like a glimmer into the quality of songs they'd eventually release. It was almost BTCS Part 2. Then all of a sudden the band started performing "If You Give a Mouse a Cookie" followed by "If you give a Moose a Muffin."
    I felt like they were still headed to their peak at that point. I wouldn't have believed you if you had told me we'd say their peak was BTCS (album wise).
    __________________
    Rashawn is a great addition to the band, but Roi kept the screeching triple B flat over C sharp shit in check.
    arriflex is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2015, 08:37 PM   #12
    bartender_man
     
    bartender_man's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Sep 2002
    Location: New Zealand
    Posts: 20,112

    Shows Seen: 35

    DMB Hub Stubs: 18

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by C.S. View Post
    Ah, summer 2000. Feel that anticipation building, Building, BUILDING. Rabid fandom building, Building, BUILDING!!!!

    Book 5 shows for 2001, gonna be so sweet!

    Everyday.

    Damn.

    __________________
    Ash from New Zealand
    bartender_man is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2015, 09:38 PM   #13
    coldblueice
     
    coldblueice's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Mar 2002
    Posts: 1,490

    Shows Seen: 25

    DMB Hub Stubs: 10

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by C.S. View Post
    Ah, summer 2000. Feel that anticipation building, Building, BUILDING. Rabid fandom building, Building, BUILDING!!!!

    Book 5 shows for 2001, gonna be so sweet!

    Everyday.

    Damn.


    yea the decision by Dave to abandon Lillywhite (and the band, really) and "The Summer So Far" ... to fly to California and do an album with Glen Ballard in 9 days and then come back and hand sheet music to the band..... that was most certainly a fork in the road that they have never really recovered from.

    Dave was depressed. But Flohr and Capshaw should have drilled into him to embrace it and focus those feelings into the music. The Lillywhite Sessions captured that and would have been even better in the finished product if they just stayed on it. It would have bested BTCS, possibly by a sizable margin.

    Went to two shows that summer. I remember an edginess to the band. A moodiness that kind of flowed over the crowds. The angst built up in the studio was exploding onstage into some deeply emotional and focused performances.

    Last edited by coldblueice; 07-08-2015 at 09:40 PM.
    coldblueice is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2015, 09:41 PM   #14
    bowa36
     
    bowa36's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2002
    Posts: 13,862

    Shows Seen: 0

    DMB Hub Stubs: 7

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    The Summer So Far is such a cool name for that group of songs
    __________________
    When it's not the colors that matter,
    but that they'll all fade away
    bowa36 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-08-2015, 10:35 PM   #15
    LetYouDown22
    LetYouDown22
     
    Join Date: Sep 2004
    Location: Chicago, IL
    Posts: 2,152

    Shows Seen: 0

    DMB Hub Stubs: 1

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Wasn't just Dave that wasn't feeling tLWS. This all started back with BTCS.
    LetYouDown22 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:09 AM   #16
    limbstan
     
    Join Date: Apr 2003
    Location: Greenville, SC
    Posts: 713

    Shows Seen: 56

    DMB Hub Stubs: 21

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by C.S. View Post
    Ah, summer 2000. Feel that anticipation building, Building, BUILDING. Rabid fandom building, Building, BUILDING!!!!

    Book 5 shows for 2001, gonna be so sweet!

    Everyday.

    Damn.
    I remember that summer too. It was the only summer, ironically, that I didn't see a show since 1998. I downloaded the shit out of the new songs though on Napster. I was so damn excited about the new album. Then I Did It was released. I was horrified and disappointed. Glad the LWS were leaked, but it was a bittersweet moment because Everyday had come out and the LWS weren't quite finished.

    This was, for me, a true turning point for the band. They have done this same sort of thing since then too. 2004, 2006-08, etc.
    limbstan is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:14 AM   #17
    evolvefurther41
     
    Join Date: May 2003
    Posts: 740

    Shows Seen: 55

    DMB Hub Stubs: 17

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by limbstan View Post
    I remember that summer too. It was the only summer, ironically, that I didn't see a show since 1998. I downloaded the shit out of the new songs though on Napster. I was so damn excited about the new album. Then I Did It was released. I was horrified and disappointed. Glad the LWS were leaked, but it was a bittersweet moment because Everyday had come out and the LWS weren't quite finished.

    This was, for me, a true turning point for the band. They have done this same sort of thing since then too. 2004, 2006-08, etc.
    The same sort of thing, just without better unfinished tracks leaking along side the albums.
    __________________
    I make sounds. My IMDB
    evolvefurther41 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #18
    comeandsee41
     
    comeandsee41's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2003
    Location: DC to San Diego
    Posts: 3,853

    Shows Seen: 46

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    if only stefan would have locked the front door before going skiing...
    __________________
    And my heart's numbered beat, will echo in this empty room...
    comeandsee41 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:25 AM   #19
    TheStone91
     
    TheStone91's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2010
    Location: Chicago, IL
    Posts: 6,389

    Shows Seen: 28

    DMB Hub Stubs: 14

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by comeandsee41 View Post
    if only stefan would have locked the front door before going skiing...

    Don't insult Stefan like that. He's a snowboarder.
    TheStone91 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:27 AM   #20
    comeandsee41
     
    comeandsee41's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2003
    Location: DC to San Diego
    Posts: 3,853

    Shows Seen: 46

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheStone91 View Post
    Don't insult Stefan like that. He's a snowboarder.
    my apologies.
    __________________
    And my heart's numbered beat, will echo in this empty room...
    comeandsee41 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:36 AM   #21
    ToySoldier#34
     
    ToySoldier#34's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Nov 2010
    Location: Lined up 1,2,3
    Posts: 64,518

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 18

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheStone91 View Post
    Don't insult Stefan like that. He's a snowboarder.

    ToySoldier#34 is online now   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:51 AM   #22
    Miccius
    Crater4life
     
    Miccius's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2002
    Location: Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts: 2,530

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    "One of the coolest things we've been working on lately is the "real-time" set list. During each show, songs played by the band will appear on the set list page as the show goes on. Hope you dig it!" 6/19/00 Road Page Notes. LOL Technology has come a long ways.
    __________________
    Not going to change my ways
    Miccius is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:54 AM   #23
    Miccius
    Crater4life
     
    Miccius's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2002
    Location: Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts: 2,530

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    That summer of 2000 was awesome. I remember downloading and burning these songs and telling my dad how Sweet Up and Down was going to be the next single. Then when tLWS came out... I don't think I listened to anything but that for a long time.
    __________________
    Not going to change my ways
    Miccius is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 11:57 AM   #24
    comeandsee41
     
    comeandsee41's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2003
    Location: DC to San Diego
    Posts: 3,853

    Shows Seen: 46

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    ditching tLWS really was the single turning point of this band. god, what would have been if they had finished it. like someone said, they never recovered from this decision.

    RIP Captain
    __________________
    And my heart's numbered beat, will echo in this empty room...
    comeandsee41 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 12:17 PM   #25
    Miccius
    Crater4life
     
    Miccius's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2002
    Location: Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts: 2,530

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by comeandsee41 View Post
    ditching tLWS really was the single turning point of this band. god, what would have been if they had finished it. like someone said, they never recovered from this decision.

    RIP Captain
    I wanted to say this earlier, then erased it. I hate to say I agree because I liked BW and AFTW, but still I wonder what could have been if the road of Everyday had not been taken.
    __________________
    Not going to change my ways
    Miccius is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 12:29 PM   #26
    ToySoldier#34
     
    ToySoldier#34's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Nov 2010
    Location: Lined up 1,2,3
    Posts: 64,518

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 18

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Regardless of tLWS being completed or not I don't think the path after that would have been much different, Dave would have been married with kids and happy in life at this point either way and I think he would have lost some of his creative drive either way as well. Many of the songs from tLWS have become great live songs and others have faded as is true for any other collection of songs or albums they have had. It would mean they started their career with four amazing albums in a row and Busted Stuff wouldn't exist, but I don't think differences extend much beyond that.
    ToySoldier#34 is online now   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 12:32 PM   #27
    Miccius
    Crater4life
     
    Miccius's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2002
    Location: Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts: 2,530

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34 View Post
    Regardless of tLWS being completed or not I don't think the path after that would have been much different, Dave would have been married with kids and happy in life at this point either way and I think he would have lost some of his creative drive either way as well. Many of the songs from tLWS have become great live songs and others have faded as is true for any other collection of songs or albums they have had. It would mean they started their career with four amazing albums in a row and Busted Stuff wouldn't exist, but I don't think differences extend much beyond that.
    Meh, hard to say. You Never Know.
    __________________
    Not going to change my ways
    Miccius is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 12:46 PM   #28
    comeandsee41
     
    comeandsee41's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2003
    Location: DC to San Diego
    Posts: 3,853

    Shows Seen: 46

    DMB Hub Stubs: 16

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34 View Post
    Regardless of tLWS being completed or not I don't think the path after that would have been much different, Dave would have been married with kids and happy in life at this point either way and I think he would have lost some of his creative drive either way as well. Many of the songs from tLWS have become great live songs and others have faded as is true for any other collection of songs or albums they have had. It would mean they started their career with four amazing albums in a row and Busted Stuff wouldn't exist, but I don't think differences extend much beyond that.
    working with ballard was sort of the beginning of the lazy songwriting approach. lyrically speaking you cant even compare Everyday to what dave had written for tLWS at that point. again as coldblueice noted, folks in his camp should have sat him down and told him its ok to be sad and write...channel your depression that way (captain, busted stuff, etc..). i think thats where dave's songwriting abilities drifted off. had he been able to redirect his emotions into songwriting, he may have been able to come out of that period with a better outlook and more creativity when writing positive experiences (marriage, love, kids, etc...). instead of "I would dig a hole all the way to China unless of course I was there and I'd dig my way home.
    __________________
    And my heart's numbered beat, will echo in this empty room...
    comeandsee41 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-09-2015, 12:57 PM   #29
    ToySoldier#34
     
    ToySoldier#34's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Nov 2010
    Location: Lined up 1,2,3
    Posts: 64,518

    Shows Seen: 37

    DMB Hub Stubs: 18

    My Tour Central Stats

    Re: Scrolling through the '00 Summer Tour on DMBA.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by comeandsee41 View Post
    working with ballard was sort of the beginning of the lazy songwriting approach. lyrically speaking you cant even compare Everyday to what dave had written for tLWS at that point. again as coldblueice noted, folks in his camp should have sat him down and told him its ok to be sad and write...channel your depression that way (captain, busted stuff, etc..). i think thats where dave's songwriting abilities drifted off. had he been able to redirect his emotions into songwriting, he may have been able to come out of that period with a better outlook and more creativity when writing positive experiences (marriage, love, kids, etc...). instead of "I would dig a hole all the way to China unless of course I was there and I'd dig my way home.

    I agree completely, I would love to know how much influence Dave has had over the years from everyone else in the band in terms of songwriting. Not in terms of structure or anything like that which I'm sure has always been a constant, but in terms of how to approach topics and challenge him to dig deeper and that sort of thing. I know this was years before tLWS but what I would give to be a fly on the wall when Stefan and Dave were in a cabin in the woods in the middle of nowhere writing songs. I've always felt there is very little information about the older songs and Dave's experience writing them unlike what we know about You & Me and Little Red Bird, wish there was more of that so we could get more of a feel for his progression as a songwriter.
    ToySoldier#34 is online now   Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is Off
    HTML code is Off

    Forum Jump


    Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here

    All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:22 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.14
    Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.


       
    Site LinksAbout AntsAnts MobileTweet Tweet
    Home
    Ants+
    Tour Central
    Search bar
    RSS Feeds
    About Us
    Contact Us
    The Ants Blog
    Advertise on Ants
    Privacy Policy
    Ants on your cell phone
    iAnts
    mobile news
    mobile setlists
    antslive!
    Ants' Twitter
    DMBLive Twitter
    Ants Facebook
    Ants Instagram