2015 Warm Up Series

[dthree]

Originally Posted by Squirm_34

I think #27 makes a unique and fun show opener, but not after an acoustic set in 2014. Too mellow when you're expecting something more electric after 8-9 acoustic songs.

Too mellow? Have you listened to this song?

[davem#36]

Originally Posted by bowa36

Speaking of Beach Ball, I hope they release a Dave solo version from last year as a warm up video.

seeing that open last year was unreal. It may not happen near as often but this band still throws surprises here and there and this one was great.

[Squirm_34]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

I got a Loving Wings opener once, enjoyed that.

I can enjoy songs like that for the uniqueness -- knowing that Loving Wings, #27, or Spaceman don't normally open shows would make it enjoyable for the DMB nerd in me. But as for a hyped concert going experience, the slow opening notes of #27 or the mellow kick of Spaceman are undeniably underwhelming compared to songs like DDTW, Billies, Two Step, Rapunzel, and more.

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

That says more about the crowd at the show than the band.

how so? because they can't "appreciate" a song without "the energy"?



some songs just fall flat, especially as openers, and the band (Dave) should realize when that happens. hell, listen to the crowd at the start of #27 in that video. its the first song of the electric set and you can literally count the people who cheered. then you listen to a song like Dancing Nancies or Seek Up and the crowd goes crazy after the first 4 notes.

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by Squirm_34

I can enjoy songs like that for the uniqueness -- knowing that Loving Wings, #27, or Spaceman don't normally open shows would make it enjoyable for the DMB nerd in me. But as for a hyped concert going experience, the slow opening notes of #27 or the mellow kick of Spaceman are undeniably underwhelming compared to songs like DDTW, Billies, Two Step, Rapunzel, and more.

and a lot of times, when they play a snoozer opening song, a high energy song is right behind it. like the dallas show last year where this #27 opened, Shake Me was the next song. when A Dream So Real opened a few shows back in 2007, Two Step, Seek Up, Pig, or Rapunzel was right behind it. why not just open with those songs and have ADSR 2nd? (or better yet just not play ADSR because the song was terrible)

[highlanders]

#27 is a decent opener but overall a good song. Would take Hello Again a million times over though...

[twostepr41]

A very underappreciated, under-used opener: Too Much.

[KevinTH]

Originally Posted by dthree

#27 is fucking awesome.

I think #27 is one of their most underrated songs in the catalog. One of the better songs they've put out since Busted Stuff.

[Squirm_34]

Originally Posted by spoot388

and a lot of times, when they play a snoozer opening song, a high energy song is right behind it. like the dallas show last year where this #27 opened, Shake Me was the next song. when A Dream So Real opened a few shows back in 2007, Two Step, Seek Up, Pig, or Rapunzel was right behind it. why not just open with those songs and have ADSR 2nd? (or better yet just not play ADSR because the song was terrible)

Loved ADSR, always have. 10/2/07 is the definitive version in my mind, with 6/21/08 being a close 2nd. I won't say it doesn't kill the energy at a concert, but it's a beautiful song. I'd take it any day over equally slow songs like If Only or You & Me.

[Squirm_34]

Originally Posted by highlanders

#27 is a decent opener but overall a good song. Would take Hello Again a million times over though...

#27 > Hello Again

That would be a nice pairing.

[IDidIt41]

Originally Posted by dmbfan4ever

Same with Seek Up.

I think it depends on venue as well. A place like red rocks, gorge, spac, alpine - opening with a classic mellow song (Seek Up, DT, Nancies) will get the same reaction that DDTW will get many other places (well, not really, but yeah.)

Seek Up is an UNREAL opener. SPAC a couple years ago ('13) was the cats meow

[dpduke5173]

Originally Posted by Squirm_34

#27 > Hello Again

That would be a nice pairing.

I could totally get down with this

[laverwater]

How long has it been since PNP>Rapunzel opened? I feel like that would be pretty awesome.

[space_raven]

Originally Posted by laverwater

how long has it been since pnp>rapunzel opened? I feel like that would be pretty awesome.

12/17/13

[laverwater]

Originally Posted by space_raven

12/17/13

Ah, not long ago then. Still, they need to mix it up some more. DDTW is getting way too predictable for slot 1. Where's electric Bartender?! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more pennywhistle!

[TheStone91]

Originally Posted by laverwater

Ah, not long ago then. Still, they need to mix it up some more. DDTW is getting way too predictable for slot 1. Where's electric Bartender?! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more pennywhistle!

DDTW doesn't really open shows that much these days. I still have never seen it open a show I've been at. Haha

[Squirm_34]

Originally Posted by laverwater

Ah, not long ago then. Still, they need to mix it up some more. DDTW is getting way too predictable for slot 1. Where's electric Bartender?! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more pennywhistle!

Bartender has opened my last 3 shows in a row! 2 acoustic openers in 2014, and one electric in 2009.

[socopithy]

Originally Posted by Squirm_34

Honestly, I have no problem with a mellow opener. I think ADSR opening shows in 2007 is beautiful, especially followed by that killer Two Step on 10/2/07. Dreaming Tree, Seek Up, even #27 can all make great openers in my opinion.

What I don't like is when they open mellow in the 2 set format. After 8 acoustic songs last year, I wanted the electric set to open HARD. Minarets was great in that slot in 2014. Spaceman at Camden, however, not so much

At a regular show, I wouldn't hate Spaceman as an opener. If that makes sense?

Very valid point. I agree.

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by laverwater

How long has it been since PNP>Rapunzel opened? I feel like that would be pretty awesome.

It's actually been since 9/30/09 that it opened a show in the States. The few times it's opened since then have all been international shows.

[laverwater]

Originally Posted by Squirm_34

Bartender has opened my last 3 shows in a row! 2 acoustic openers in 2014, and one electric in 2009.

Yeah, I don't really count the acoustic ones. While I like Bartender acoustic, it's way better electric. Unless they end up playing it full band acoustic, not sure I've heard it if they did last year(?).

The longer songs, like Seek Up and Dreaming Tree mentioned earlier, Bartender, or even Jimi Thing, are cool because the solos are like musician introductions. #41 is one of the best openers I've seen because of that, and because the "yea's" are that much louder.

[daveshookme]

Originally Posted by TheStone91

DDTW doesn't really open shows that much these days. I still have never seen it open a show I've been at. Haha

Fwiw, Bartender opened 13 shows last year, out of 17 total plays.

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by TheStone91

DDTW doesn't really open shows that much these days. I still have never seen it open a show I've been at. Haha

I remember when people were complaining about it always being DDTW, OSW or Rapunzel. Oh my god so many people complaining about OSW.

[lockman21]

Also, FWIW, I think OSW is one of the absolute best openers the band has. That song IS summer to me. That opening intro. Dave grinning weirdly at an enormous crowd grooving with him. I love OSW opening.

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by Squirm_34

Loved ADSR, always have. 10/2/07 is the definitive version in my mind, with 6/21/08 being a close 2nd. I won't say it doesn't kill the energy at a concert, but it's a beautiful song. I'd take it any day over equally slow songs like If Only or You & Me.

i heard ADSR once at the izod 07 show. it bored the crowd to death. my mom was with me for her first DMB show and never heard the song or heard me say anything about it. after it ended she asked if everybody was clapping because it was finally over.

Originally Posted by laverwater

Yeah, I don't really count the acoustic ones. While I like Bartender acoustic, it's way better electric. Unless they end up playing it full band acoustic, not sure I've heard it if they did last year(?).

The longer songs, like Seek Up and Dreaming Tree mentioned earlier, Bartender, or even Jimi Thing, are cool because the solos are like musician introductions. #41 is one of the best openers I've seen because of that, and because the "yea's" are that much louder.

i believe bartender was only played D+T in the acoustic set. they didn't seem to change up the personnel on a song over the course of the tour.

Originally Posted by daveshookme

Fwiw, Bartender opened 13 shows last year, out of 17 total plays.

but it was played all 17 times in the acoustic set and its one of dave's go-to acoustic openers. the only times it wasn't opening the set, it was played 2nd, after a dave solo opener.

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by laverwater

Yeah, I don't really count the acoustic ones. While I like Bartender acoustic, it's way better electric. Unless they end up playing it full band acoustic, not sure I've heard it if they did last year(?).

The longer songs, like Seek Up and Dreaming Tree mentioned earlier, Bartender, or even Jimi Thing, are cool because the solos are like musician introductions. #41 is one of the best openers I've seen because of that, and because the "yea's" are that much louder.

Well the lyric is "here," not "yeah".........

[420th jimi]

Originally Posted by lockman21

Also, FWIW, I think OSW is one of the absolute best openers the band has. That song IS summer to me. That opening intro. Dave grinning weirdly at an enormous crowd grooving with him. I love OSW opening.

That's why N3 of the Chicago Caravan was so awesome...or one of the reasons. A great set helped things tremendously. A few clunkers here and there but overall, a good show. I love OSW opening a show.

[highlanders]

OSW without Roi is still troubling to listen to. The horn section just isn't the same on that song....

[TwoStep2888]

OSW def a Roi song, more than most others

[bartender_man]

#27 is terrible. Hello again is so much better and much more diverse. That song needs to get played more often as does Sugar will.

[dpduke5173]

Hoping for acoustic Billies(light percussion from Carter) Minarets, or Two Step from Woodlands. Would be interesting if they pick another one from the electric set.