Chicago shootings

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by jackisback24

another weekend.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/26/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2

Like I said, it's like they don't want help from any outside source...

"Rahm Emanuel cannot come up with a solution if he has not lived this life," said Ruiz. "If you have not been part of the street, you cannot come up with a solution for the street."

What can anyone do?

[RAPUNZEL13]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

phish killed it there too this weekend

[Foreverford05]

So if the streets cannot help themselves and those not from the streets can't help the streets, then we are in a unbroken circle of violence in the streets?

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

So if the streets cannot help themselves and those not from the streets can't help the streets, then we are in a unbroken circle of violence in the streets?

I don't know. People will say you need more extra curricular activities for kids, which okay, maybe. But, these shootings over weekends would still occur if the EDM club (or whatever) isn't meeting.

I've said it before that if by 20 you haven't graduated HS or have a GED, maybe you should have to join one of the armed forces (could be nat'd guard). At least there'd be an opportunity for structure and job training.

I think it's clear there needs to be a "force" for any change to take place. There's not going to be some city ordinance passed or anything similar that is going to change the situation. We're way passed that at this point.

[justink]

Originally Posted by MidwestGirl

Cop was shot a few blocks from me early this am. He tried to confront a robber on his way home from work (he was off duty) and the robber came at him and there was a struggle. Officer was shot but was able to gain control of his gun and shot and killed the guy.

So one less bad guy on the street.

Been there. That sucks. Good for him.

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by rconverse

I don't know. People will say you need more extra curricular activities for kids, which okay, maybe. But, these shootings over weekends would still occur if the EDM club (or whatever) isn't meeting.

I've said it before that if by 20 you haven't graduated HS or have a GED, maybe you should have to join one of the armed forces (could be nat'd guard). At least there'd be an opportunity for structure and job training.

I think it's clear there needs to be a "force" for any change to take place. There's not going to be some city ordinance passed or anything similar that is going to change the situation. We're way passed that at this point.

no.




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[lockman21]

Well....what the shit.

Honestly shocked there isn't a thread at the top about all this nonsense.

[TwoStep2888]

doesn't look good

[lockman21]

Downtown was mayhem tonight. Protesters blocking Lower Wacker, Michigan & Randolph...lots of offices advising their employees to just work from home or not come into work at all tomorrow for fear of rioting.

I don't think we'll see riots, but still a crazy state of affairs here.

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by lockman21

Downtown was mayhem tonight. Protesters blocking Lower Wacker, Michigan & Randolph...lots of offices advising their employees to just work from home or not come into work at all tomorrow for fear of rioting.

I don't think we'll see riots, but still a crazy state of affairs here.

I'm fortunate I didn't have to be at work tonight. My building is right by Randolph & Michigan.

[Foreverford05]

I don't understand: Bad cop kills kid, bad cop charged with murder, people riot? shouldn't the bad cop get charged with murder, people thankful the system actually got it right? I have to be missing something, forgive me if this comes off as ignorant.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

I don't understand: Bad cop kills kid, bad cop charged with murder, people riot? shouldn't the bad cop get charged with murder, people thankful the system actually got it right? I have to be missing something, forgive me if this comes off as ignorant.

My guess: people will be pissed because The documents show what pieces of shit Chicago cops are for protecting this scum bag

[DMBstandUP1984]

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

I don't understand: Bad cop kills kid, bad cop charged with murder, people riot? shouldn't the bad cop get charged with murder, people thankful the system actually got it right? I have to be missing something, forgive me if this comes off as ignorant.

I had the same point of view, what's to protest if the cop was charged with murder.

I know it's the thing to do now but I hate how every report is WHITE COP shoots BLACK GUY. Why can't it just be cop shoots person.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

I had the same point of view, what's to protest if the cop was charged with murder.

I know it's the thing to do now but I hate how every report is WHITE COP shoots BLACK GUY. Why can't it just be cop shoots person.

agreed....

[jcc522]

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

I don't understand: Bad cop kills kid, bad cop charged with murder, people riot? shouldn't the bad cop get charged with murder, people thankful the system actually got it right? I have to be missing something, forgive me if this comes off as ignorant.

Any excuse to get wild and eventually loot, I'm guessing.

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

I had the same point of view, what's to protest if the cop was charged with murder.

I know it's the thing to do now but I hate how every report is WHITE COP shoots BLACK GUY. Why can't it just be cop shoots person.

This doesn't sell as well.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

I had the same point of view, what's to protest if the cop was charged with murder.

I know it's the thing to do now but I hate how every report is WHITE COP shoots BLACK GUY. Why can't it just be cop shoots person.

Ugh, I know! Why in Paris was it "Muslim extremists kill 100+ in terrorist attack"? Why can't the report just be citizens kill other citizens?

[NextMovement41]

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

I don't understand: Bad cop kills kid, bad cop charged with murder, people riot? shouldn't the bad cop get charged with murder, people thankful the system actually got it right? I have to be missing something, forgive me if this comes off as ignorant.

The fact that it happened is enough to protest it (And rightfully so)

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by Foreverford05

I don't understand: Bad cop kills kid, bad cop charged with murder, people riot? shouldn't the bad cop get charged with murder, people thankful the system actually got it right? I have to be missing something, forgive me if this comes off as ignorant.

I haven't been following too closely but I see them as pissed that bad cops like this are on the force in the first place. His being charged doesn't bring back the person he killed.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

I haven't been following too closely but I see them as pissed that bad cops like this are on the force in the first place. His being charged doesn't bring back the person he killed.

but its a race issue with them

[Jake]

just watched the video for the 1st time.


maybe I'm the only person who knows this, but when I am approached by a police officer - for whatever reason - I make sure they can see my hands. In the unlikely event a weapon is pulled I raise my hands up.



not that police should be randomly shooting people but you can make life a lot easier if you're not running in the middle of the road with your hands in your pockets whilst police are swarming around. Just sayin'....

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by Jake

just watched the video for the 1st time.


maybe I'm the only person who knows this, but when I am approached by a police officer - for whatever reason - I make sure they can see my hands. In the unlikely event a weapon is pulled I raise my hands up.



not that police should be randomly shooting people but you can make life a lot easier if you're not running in the middle of the road with your hands in your pockets whilst police are swarming around. Just sayin'....

so you would defend the police officer and his 16 shots?

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by Jake

just watched the video for the 1st time.


maybe I'm the only person who knows this, but when I am approached by a police officer - for whatever reason - I make sure they can see my hands. In the unlikely event a weapon is pulled I raise my hands up.



not that police should be randomly shooting people but you can make life a lot easier if you're not running in the middle of the road with your hands in your pockets whilst police are swarming around. Just sayin'....

Just saw it first time too. The article says he had a small knife. The initial repost from the officer said he lunged at him before firing.

Also, this is a year old and the community has been asking for it, another reason for the current outburst.

To your point, these kids getting shot and killed don't exactly make them self safer with how they behave around police but this kid seemed to be stumbling around in the first place.

[cazzie34]

Victim blaming took longer than I thought.

[cazzie34]

A fair number of americans believe that once you do anything wrong, a death sentence is A-OK.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Right?

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

A fair number of americans believe that once you do anything wrong, a death sentence is A-OK.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Right?

That's what I don't get. "Well he should have stopped for the police." Sure but he deserved to get shot and die? Not only that, they shoot this guy a number of times after he's down... According to the one article I read the office had received 18 complaints before and 8 of them for excessive force and was never disciplined? Don't stop for police = deserve to get shot but all those complaints filed against the cop = he gets as many second chances as needed.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by dre2142

but its a race issue with them

I'm going to speculate he doesn't get shot if he's white, wearing a Masters V-neck and khakis.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

That's what I don't get. "Well he should have stopped for the police." Sure but he deserved to get shot and die? Not only that, they shoot this guy a number of times after he's down... According to the one article I read the office had received 18 complaints before and 8 of them for excessive force and was never disciplined? Don't stop for police = deserve to get shot but all those complaints filed against the cop = he gets as many second chances as needed.

I think this is where the line was crossed from questionable shooting to murder.

[TimHonks]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

I'm fortunate I didn't have to be at work tonight. My building is right by Randolph & Michigan.

I'm on the corner of Randolph & Michigan as well, small world.

[TimHonks]

Also - I think the outrage is that it took so long to charge the guy. Obviously there is nothing more you can do to punish the guy, people are just upset they waited until they were forced to show the video to charge the cop.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Jake

just watched the video for the 1st time.


maybe I'm the only person who knows this, but when I am approached by a police officer - for whatever reason - I make sure they can see my hands. In the unlikely event a weapon is pulled I raise my hands up.



not that police should be randomly shooting people but you can make life a lot easier if you're not running in the middle of the road with your hands in your pockets whilst police are swarming around. Just sayin'....

Originally Posted by AJF_41

so you would defend the police officer and his 16 shots?

exactly what I did; great call

Originally Posted by cazzie34

Victim blaming took longer than I thought.

just wanted to let you know that it's my opinion that you are a piece of shit. a pathetic piece of shit.

of all the 'worst posters' on this board, you take the cake with your rhetoric. Just a horrible human being.