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Old 11-09-2012, 09:14 PM   #91
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I'm not a huge fan of D&T. Cool shows, but definitely not something I will be purchasing.
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    idc that it's Dave and Tim as a Live Trax...I see where people are coming from by saying they should be a DMBLive b/c those have been DMB, D&T, and Dave solo and Live Trax have only been DMB, but I don't have a problem with it...these shows look to be spectacular and are from the D&T prime era

    I am a little disturbed by the LT 23 cover photo lol...I mean it's a 96 show and they use a photo from the 99 Storytellers show...kinda odd but w/e
    You'd think if they couldn't find a photo from the actual show they'd at least use a substitute picture from a performance that wasn't televised.

    Now I'm questioning the cover photos on every other live release. Sigh.
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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:16 PM   #93
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    Two of the finest D+T shows mixed and released and people find reason to complain over the use of the LT series to do so?
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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:21 PM   #94
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    Two of the finest D+T shows mixed and released and people find reason to complain over the use of the LT series to do so?
    I think it's a fair complaint. People who are expecting a full-band show could be let down by management announcing two D&T LiveTrax. I think that's fair enough.
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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:42 PM   #95
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    You'd think if they couldn't find a photo from the actual show they'd at least use a substitute picture from a performance that wasn't televised.

    Now I'm questioning the cover photos on every other live release. Sigh.
    haha yea it's just too obvious that's all
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    Great choices. Preordered both...Starwood Live Nation Cash Codes FTW
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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:53 PM   #97
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    I think it's a fair complaint. People who are expecting a full-band show could be let down by management announcing two D&T LiveTrax. I think that's fair enough.
    Then pretend they dont exist....Im sorry to say but this fan base is completely spoiled. Consider yourselves lucky. My wife used to be in a certan artist's fanclub and all she ever got for years of memberships was a fucking pencil...A PENCIL!!!!

    We get release after release and still....somehow, ants find something wrong with it. Incredible.
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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:53 PM   #98
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    Now I'm questioning the cover photos on every other live release. Sigh.
    Alpine has orange seats like this: http://www.livedownloads.com//images...m090718_01.jpg

    Not blue ones like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o-Bdc7R1KK...ine+Valley.jpg
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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:55 PM   #99
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    Since Butch left the band, there hasn't been a single release that has him on it, except for Warehouse bonus discs. Most people do not believe this is coincidence.
    I heard from an inside source that the next LT release will be butch taylor solo. Let the bitching commence.

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    Old 11-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #100
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    2-11-96 is the best D+T show ever. I know cuz I was there, HA! Other than that show.....these two are pretty amazing. Had a couple of friends at Spartenburg, so they will be extra loving this news.
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    Old 11-09-2012, 10:03 PM   #101
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    Then pretend they dont exist....Im sorry to say but this fan base is completely spoiled. Consider yourselves lucky. My wife used to be in a certan artist's fanclub and all she ever got for years of memberships was a fucking pencil...A PENCIL!!!!

    We get release after release and still....somehow, ants find something wrong with it. Incredible.
    So you think it's complete bullshit for some people to be disappointed in two D&T releases, rather than two DMB shows?
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    Old 11-09-2012, 10:07 PM   #102
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    Some people claim that the cover art (reflection in the drum) from Live trax 5 is actually the alpine lawn, but i dont buy that.

    Personally, with the natural beauty that abounds at Alpine, I dont know why you ever wouldnt use an actual picture in any realease from that venue, but to each his own.
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    Old 11-09-2012, 10:08 PM   #103
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    In before crashintonick says these suck because there's no Roi
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    So you think it's complete bullshit for some people to be disappointed in two D&T releases, rather than two DMB shows?
    Why yes, yes I do...
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    So you think it's complete bullshit for some people to be disappointed in two D&T releases, rather than two DMB shows?
    I think dmb shows are so easily accessible that anyone that actually complains about prime old school ( probably before you were in high school) Dave and Tim shows being released in sbd has fn lost their mind! I have had tapes of the Spartenburg show since back when we used to actually trade tapes, and I had tapes of the NH show two weeks after it was played. I then bought a 3 CD bootleg in of the NH show in a record store in Great Barrington MA before the big DMB crackdown of the "imports" ( youngins won't remember this) and record stores all over New England had BAN DMB posters in their front windows. The band was right to do it, as they are the same sources available on dreamingtree and here now, but the NH show, sold for 85 bucks.
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    Some people claim that the cover art (reflection in the drum) from Live trax 5 is actually the alpine lawn, but i dont buy that.

    Personally, with the natural beauty that abounds at Alpine, I dont know why you ever wouldnt use an actual picture in any realease from that venue, but to each his own.
    For releases from roughly the band's first decade, it's clear they didn't take pictures at every show. However, a picture from that year or that tour would be forgivable, I think.
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    Nick is pleased???
    Why wouldn't I?

    2 Dave and Tim shows with no post lws crap. No reason for me to be upset
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    For releases from roughly the band's first decade, it's clear they didn't take pictures at every show. However, a picture from that year or that tour would be forgivable, I think.
    Thats fair enough but then why are they still doing it in the bands second decade?
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    Old 11-09-2012, 10:16 PM   #109
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    Why wouldn't I?

    2 Dave and Tim shows with no post lws crap. No reason for me to be upset
    Were all being sarcastic at your expense, friend. No hard feelings here.
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    they have pics of the old days - they are just lazy
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    I think dmb shows are so easily accessible that anyone that actually complains about prime old school ( probably before you were in high school) Dave and Tim shows being released in sbd has fn lost their mind! I have had tapes of the Spartenburg show since back when we used to actually trade tapes, and I had tapes of the NH show two weeks after it was played. I then bought a 3 CD bootleg in of the NH show in a record store in Great Barrington MA before the big DMB crackdown of the "imports" ( youngins won't remember this) and record stores all over New England had BAN DMB posters in their front windows. The band was right to do it, as they are the same sources available on dreamingtree and here now, but the NH show, sold for 85 bucks.
    Cool story? People expected DMB shows, they got D&T. People were disappointed. It's simple.
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    Never mind, I don't want to know the truth! Just kidding, but it is pretty disappointing to realize that I'll never be sure about the location and/or date of certain cover photos. Do you know of inaccurate ones?
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    Old 11-09-2012, 10:21 PM   #113
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    Cool story? People expected DMB shows, they got D&T. People were disappointed. It's simple.

    All I'm sayin is these shows reward the old school fans - People that have been faithfully listening, and going to shows for 15 years or more. For once, it's great to see a release that isn't marketed to people like yourself.
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    Never mind, I don't want to know the truth! Just kidding, but it is pretty disappointing to realize that I'll never be sure about the location and/or date of certain cover photos. Do you know of inaccurate ones?
    Mostly all of them, but one I can tell you for sure is the cover photo from LT15...Everyone thinks its the alpine valley stage but it's actually the band walking out of my basement.
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    Old 11-09-2012, 10:23 PM   #115
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    All I'm sayin is these shows reward the old school fans - People that have been faithfully listening, and going to shows for 15 years or more. For once, it's great to see a release that isn't marketed to people like yourself.
    Old skool or not, anytime I see a release with a set like this i cant help but feel jolly.
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    How is my post you quoted saying these shows are not incredible?
    you said, "what a waste." Not a whole lot of ways to interpret that.

    I get that people EXPECTED full band shows, but get over it! What's the difference if its a Live Trax release vs. DMBLive vs. another live album ala Radio City or Red Rocks? I understand expectation and not having them met, but for goodness sake, this isn't the last live music this band will ever put out and its not like a studio album not sounding the way people expected. There are PLENTY of live albums already available and an entire archive of shows yet to be sorted thru for release. More full band shows will come. And when they do, the same people will probably be disappointed that it'll have another version of Jimi Thing or Two Step. Just enjoy the fucking music.

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    I think it's a fair complaint. People who are expecting a full-band show could be let down by management announcing two D&T LiveTrax. I think that's fair enough.
    I disagree.

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    So you think it's complete bullshit for some people to be disappointed in two D&T releases, rather than two DMB shows?
    YES.

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    Cool story? People expected DMB shows, they got D&T. People were disappointed. It's simple.
    I almost feel bad for them because its ridiculous that good shows (ESPECIALLY THESE ONES) from great artists are seen as a disappointment on any level.

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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    [QUOTE=evolvefurther41;14151447]you said, "what a waste." Not a whole lot of ways to interpret that.

    I get that people EXPECTED full band shows, but get over it! What's the difference if its a Live Trax release vs. DMBLive vs. another live album ala Radio City or Red Rocks? I understand expectation and not having them met, but for goodness sake, this isn't the last live music this band will ever put out and its not like a studio album not sounding the way people expected. There are PLENTY of live albums already available and an entire archive of shows yet to be sorted thru for release. More full band shows will come. And when they do, the same people will probably be disappointed that it'll have another version of Jimi Thing or Two Step. Just enjoy the fucking music.



    I disagree.



    YES.



    I almost feel bad for them because its ridiculous that good shows (ESPECIALLY THESE ONES) from great artists are seen as a disappointment on any level.

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]

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    Mostly all of them, but one I can tell you for sure is the cover photo from LT15...Everyone thinks its the alpine valley stage but it's actually the band walking out of my basement.
    Oh yeah? Next you'll be telling me the Folsom Field cover photo isn't from the day of the show. Nice try!


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    Oh yeah? Next you'll be telling me the Folsom Field cover photo isn't from the day of the show. Nice try!


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    Oh yeah? Next you'll be telling me the Folsom Field cover photo isn't from the day of the show. Nice try!


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