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Old 11-30-2009, 07:03 PM   #33181
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I think it's odd to throw a first place vote at anyone other than Kansas, Syracuse, or Texas.
No team has really stood out so far IMO... Pre-season rankings mean nothing.
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  • Old 11-30-2009, 07:10 PM   #33182
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    12 points and 14 assists for John Wall tonight... The opponent was crap, but still impressive... Can't wait for Saturday.
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    Not completely unreasonable... If it wasn't for pre-season rankings, aka 'guesstimation rankings' they would probably be either 1 or 2 in the country. No one else thus far this year has played and beaten 2 better teams than UNC & Cal... But that argument could also be made against Syracuse, as beating #4 and #12 wouldn't really be as significant in the first place.

    Either way, I don't think it's an outlandish team to throw a first place vote at this early in the season.
    no one else has lost to a worse team than Lemoyne or whatever the hell that D2 school near Syracuse is called either.
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    No team has really stood out so far IMO... Pre-season rankings mean nothing.
    True, but I think Kansas is clearly the best team when you just look at players.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:27 PM   #33185
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    no one else has lost to a worse team than Lemoyne or whatever the hell that D2 school near Syracuse is called either.
    Duke has been as or more impressive than Kansas so far....

    I hate Duke and think they will flame out as usual... but I'm just saying...
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:27 PM   #33186
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    True, but I think Kansas is clearly the best team when you just look at players.
    Other than Collins and Aldrich, they are fairly unproven IMO...

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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:29 PM   #33187
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    True, but I think Kansas is clearly the best team when you just look at players.
    uh, actually if we're just looking at players i think its hard to argue against kentucky. its the discipline and leadership that are questions for that team right now
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:30 PM   #33188
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    Duke has been as or more impressive than Kansas so far....

    I hate Duke and think they will flame out as usual... but I'm just saying...
    what they did to uconn was pretty impressive
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:31 PM   #33189
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    Duke has been as or more impressive than Kansas so far....
    please explain. i'm guessing you haven't seen Kansas play this year or if you have, you're basing your feelings off of the Memphis game being the only one that you did watch. fair enough.

    top to bottom, you won't find a better team in the country than Kansas. not even Kentucky.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:32 PM   #33190
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    Other than Collins and Aldrich, they are fairly unproven IMO...
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:33 PM   #33191
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    please explain. i'm guessing you haven't seen Kansas play this year or if you have, you're basing your feelings off of the Memphis game being the only one that you did watch. fair enough.

    top to bottom, you won't find a better team in the country than Kansas. not even Kentucky.
    Duke handily beat a top 20 team and has destroyed the cupcakes... KU struggled against Memphis and then blew out some cupcakes.. Sorry if I'm not ultra impressed... And I never said UK was the best team in the nation.

    I think KU is better than Duke and a much more well-rounded team, but in terms of ACTUAL PLAY so far this year, you can make a case for Duke *vomits*

    Although I don't think they'll have what it takes to make a deep run in the tournament
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    I'll fully admit that no one's an impressive team so far.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:36 PM   #33193
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    Other than Collins and Aldrich, noone averaged in double figures last season and the only player that really even came close was Tyshawn Taylor... and that was in a rebuilding year where there were plenty of minutes to go around... Great rebuttal though.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:46 PM   #33194
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    Other than Collins and Aldrich, noone averaged in double figures last season and the only player that really even came close was Tyshawn Taylor... and that was in a rebuilding year where there were plenty of minutes to go around... Great rebuttal though.
    well, since they have the same team that they had last year with the exception of Xavier Henry, the whole plenty of minutes to go around argument is a moot point. the Morris twins are both much better than last year, Tyshawn Taylor has improved (though his scoring numbers are down) and Collins and Aldrich are the best inside-out tandem in the nation. not to metion that their leading scorer is a true freshman. sure Duke has looked good.... but Duke always looks good in November. i'll take my chances with the Jayhawks come tourney time over any other team in the nation this season.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 07:53 PM   #33195
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    well, since they have the same team that they had last year with the exception of Xavier Henry, the whole plenty of minutes to go around argument is a moot point. the Morris twins are both much better than last year, Tyshawn Taylor has improved (though his scoring numbers are down) and Collins and Aldrich are the best inside-out tandem in the nation. not to metion that their leading scorer is a true freshman. sure Duke has looked good.... but Duke always looks good in November. i'll take my chances with the Jayhawks come tourney time over any other team in the nation this season.
    I'm saying that a lot of the guys other than Collins and Aldrich were able to get 20+ minutes last year and still not put up especially impressive numbers.. therefore, as I said, they are not particularly proven... and I'll wait until KU plays a legit team before I can look at how improved they are and how good Henry is, although I think he's going to be a very good player..They've pretty much played a down Memphis team and a bunch of nobody's so far so I'm reserving judgment just as I'll wait to make a real judgment of UK until they get through UNC and UConn...

    My point isn't that KU isn't the best team in the nation, but that it's much more open for debate than you make it out to be.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 08:17 PM   #33196
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    kentucky stud demarcus cousins post game interview when asked abut UNC:

    “I’ve seen ‘em play. I’m not that impressed… “ He also goes on to say, “From what I see their whole team is their big men, so it’s going to be a battle.”
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    Old 11-30-2009, 08:56 PM   #33197
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    “I’ve seen ‘em play. I’m not that impressed… “ He also goes on to say, “From what I see their whole team is their big men, so it’s going to be a battle.”
    Kentucky may very well beat North Carolina by 15, but this is just a stupid thing for a freshman to say.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 09:01 PM   #33198
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    Kentucky may very well beat North Carolina by 15, but this is just a stupid thing for a freshman to say.

    It was more of a tongue in cheek type thing if you listened to it... He kind of just chuckled about it...
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    Old 11-30-2009, 09:07 PM   #33199
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    It was more of a tongue in cheek type thing if you listened to it... He kind of just chuckled about it...
    It is an absolutely dumb thing to say about any opponent, let alone a Top 25 team, when you're a freshman playing for a team that hasn't played anyone good yet and has struggled against some pretty poor teams. No wonder I've read quotes from Cal recently calling him immature.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 09:13 PM   #33200
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    It is an absolutely dumb thing to say about any opponent, let alone a Top 25 team, when you're a freshman playing for a team that hasn't played anyone good yet and has struggled against some pretty poor teams. No wonder I've read quotes from Cal recently calling him immature.
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    Duke has been as or more impressive than Kansas so far....

    I hate Duke and think they will flame out as usual... but I'm just saying...
    Did you really just type that... I never thought I'd see the day...
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    Did you really just type that... I never thought I'd see the day...
    I had to clean the vomit off my monitor...
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    I'm not upset, but astonished at the stupidity of a kid who is playing for a talented, yet inconsistent team that has not proven anything thus far. This is a situation where Tubby's rule of not letting freshmen speak to reporters until conference play looks like genius.
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    Old 11-30-2009, 09:22 PM   #33204
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    I had to clean the vomit off my monitor...
    I'm truly impressed. I've always talked well about John Wall because I really wanted him to be a Dookie, and am extremely jealous he plays for kentucky. But wow... You had something positive to say about Duke... Insane.

    I've had numerous UNC friends talk Duke up this year also... WOW! I had one friend go "Wow, you all look absolutely ridiculous thus far and should be a title contender when Plumlee comes back." I about pissed myself.
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    Pumped for this Duke @ Wisconsin game on Wednesday. I'll be in attendance for a rout hopefully.
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    Pumped for this Duke @ Wisconsin game on Wednesday. I'll be in attendance for a rout hopefully.
    Oh wow... Have fun! Should definitely be a rout.
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    7 down... 5 to go..

    Next up UNC in Rupp Arena.
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    MSU/UNC tonight... God, I hope State can beat them for once. Besides the fact UNC embarassed us twice last year, they've had our number for about in the tournament previous to last year as well. Just one win would be so huge and get this monkey off our back.
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    I almost feel bad for Colgate last night. SU just ripped them apart. Anyone catch those dunks from Johnson?
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    Why is it that we ALWAYS have to play the top Big 10 team every year?

    We played Ohio State when they were top 5 in the nation, Illinois when they were the best in the Big 10, and now it's Michigan State the past 2 years.

    Duke always gets to play the 2nd or 3rd best team.
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