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Carter 2 1.08%
Dave 20 10.81%
Stefan 16 8.65%
Jeff 0 0%
Tim 2 1.08%
Boyd 124 67.03%
Rashawn 21 11.35%
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:58 AM   #61
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It's Stefan and his ability to hold everything down and be completely locked in unison with Carter takes a lot of talent, all of the soloing we are talking about doesn't happen if there isn't a rock solid groove for the soloists to play off of and Stefan creates that. Additionally, when you say you never think of him having slick bass riffs everyone has different things that they like but might want to listen to BTCS again.
Primary job for a bass player is to hold down the pocket. Fonz is one of the best in the business at doing just that. With an octopus for a drummer and a shitload of soloists who go off on all sorts of tangents, he might even be the best. He also adds some uniqueness here and there... you just have to listen.
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    It's Stefan and his ability to hold everything down and be completely locked in unison with Carter takes a lot of talent, all of the soloing we are talking about doesn't happen if there isn't a rock solid groove for the soloists to play off of and Stefan creates that. Additionally, when you say you never think of him having slick bass riffs everyone has different things that they like but might want to listen to BTCS again.
    Fair enough. He's hard to miss on Crush and Dreaming Tree for sure.

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    Primary job for a bass player is to hold down the pocket. Fonz is one of the best in the business at doing just that. With an octopus for a drummer and a shitload of soloists who go off on all sorts of tangents, he might even be the best. He also adds some uniqueness here and there... you just have to listen.
    When I think about great bassists like Flea and Geddy and JPJ and Entwistle they are typically out front and noticeable. I just don't see that from Stefan, not that it's a bad attribute. I'll listen more closely from now on.
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    You guys are crazy saying Dave isn't talented. Some of those guitar riffs are tough while singing at the same.
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    Old 09-20-2016, 08:35 AM   #64
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    Fair enough. He's hard to miss on Crush and Dreaming Tree for sure.

    When I think about great bassists like Flea and Geddy and JPJ and Entwistle they are typically out front and noticeable. I just don't see that from Stefan, not that it's a bad attribute. I'll listen more closely from now on.

    Keep in mind players like Flea have a completely different role than Stefan does, same instrument but completely different, it's like saying Tim and Dave play guitar for DMB. Stefan comes up with incredible grooves like Crush, Dreaming Tree, Last Stop, not sure who wrote Billies but the bass part is very good, many other songs.
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    Yeah, if you listen to earlier stuff, Stefan played a freer style. I'm sure at some point he decided (probably with Dave's assistance since he didn't want a slappy bassplayer) to scale it back a bit and really focus on staying in the pocket. There's so much other stuff going on in DMB songs that if he played like Flea or Les Claypool or Wooten... it'd turn into a really big mess (not just the small one that it sometimes is now).
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    It's Stefan and his ability to hold everything down and be completely locked in unison with Carter takes a lot of talent, all of the soloing we are talking about doesn't happen if there isn't a rock solid groove for the soloists to play off of and Stefan creates that. Additionally, when you say you never think of him having slick bass riffs everyone has different things that they like but might want to listen to BTCS again.
    I've been listening to nothing but BTCS the past several days. He is just all over that record. It's filthy.

    I've also noticed that while I've always tuned in to fonz on Stone, and he is bloody brilliant on it, Carter is absolutely driving that song. Pushing it every single second, always smashing something so subtle but yet so critical to the song. He's mad.
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    Old 09-20-2016, 09:57 AM   #67
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    Who is the LEAST talented member of the band?

    Listen to

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    Satellite
    The Best of What's Around
    Crazy Easy
    Blue Water
    True Reflections

    for some Stefan showcasing
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    8 votes for Stefan.

    Wish this poll was public.
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    I agree. I'm curious though, if Boyd ends up winning this thread, and this community was given the hypothetical option to replace him with a more talented violinist, would they choose to do so.
    i love Boyd, but if they replaced him with Sara Watkins, i'd be stoked.
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    i love Boyd, but if they replaced him with Sara Watkins, i'd be stoked.
    I don't know very many violinists in the pop/rock and roll scene, but the ones I do know (like Lindsey Stirling) could probably play circles around Boyd. There are probably many more out there who could too.
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    Tim and Rashawn get shit on plenty around here, but because Boyd is a standard five member, he suddenly gets a free pass to suck.
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    And not only is Boyd allowed to be mediocre by many here, but people actually BEG to have him turned up at shows so people can hear his drivel.
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    now that Yellowcard is calling it quits Sean Mackin could fill in for Boyd, he doesn't have abs but he can do a back flip
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    Thank you.
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    BT may be "the least talented" but he's far from untalented. Most of the criticism I hear revolves around him not playing with the same commitment or pulling his weight. Maybe that's the case, but his talent didn't evaporate. For what he does I think he's much higher than the average violinist playing.

    The rest is absurd to debate. And it's all a matter of style preference. RR is clearly a gifted and highly trained musician. If god were to craft the physique of a trumpet player it would be Rayshawn. He is technically excellent and has chops for miles. You may not like how his joining the band has changed the sound of DMB; but I guaran-damn-tee he is a major piece of the musical evolution and expansion of the group.

    I'd guess that Tim is the most physically gifted musician on that stage, but the rest of the core were all naturally talented as well. Dave, Carter, Boyd and Stefan in particular developed their style before real serious musical training as far as I can tell. You can tell that the later members and Roi had that additional knowledge and skill from a formal education. Not better, but definitely undeniable.

    I like DMB 3.0. I enjoy the rock sound AND the horny lines. I do wish BT were more prominent, but I imagine there is a reason out there somewhere.

    But it's pretty ignorant or hyperbolic to spout off and claim any of these gents are untalented or suck.
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    Man that's a long way to agree that Boyd is the least talented, just so much writing
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    Listen to

    Warehouse
    Satellite
    The Best of What's Around
    Crazy Easy
    Blue Water
    True Reflections

    for some Stefan showcasing
    Also,
    Typical Situation
    WWYS
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    Rhyme and Reason
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    Listen to

    Warehouse
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    Crazy Easy
    Blue Water
    True Reflections

    for some Stefan showcasing
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    Also,
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    WWYS
    SMTS
    Rhyme and Reason
    Plus:

    PNP
    Rapunzel
    Last Stop
    DDTW
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    Stone
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    33% of ants members have no clue.
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    DMB does have a least talented member, but believe me, it's not Rashawn Ross. Not just with his skill, but with his arranging abilities, and his impeccable knowledge of music theory, he is an extremely talented musician. I played trumpet and trombone in high school band, so while I'm a pretty shitty player, I do have an understanding of what it is he does.
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    Fonz is so fucking awesome. There are some seriously jacked up people voting in this. Not voting Boyd is bad enough, but voting Fonz is straight up asinine. Just to set the record straight: lack of solos =/= lack of talent.
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    it's definitely Boyd
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    Fonz is so fucking awesome. There are some seriously jacked up people voting in this. Not voting Boyd is bad enough, but voting Fonz is straight up asinine. Just to set the record straight: lack of solos =/= lack of talent.
    Eh Hee's bassline is pretty underrated

    Eh Hee 9/8/07 Piedmont Park is a good mix for it..it's subtle
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    33% of ants members have no clue.
    This. I really don't get it. It's not least favorite member, it's least talented. In this band the latter isn't up for debate, it's an objective fact.
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    Boyd by far. It's kind of funny how bad he is. As far as Stefan or Dave go, they never really play that 'hard' stuff. The stuff they do might be cool and a bit tricky, but they play the same stuff every night, particularly Dave (on guitar that is). I feel like Stefan could be not that great, he never does particularly hard stuff. Then Carter, Tim, Jeff, and Rashawn are on another level IMO.
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    The obvious answer is Boyd.

    Are we talking in general, or just musically? Either way its still Boyd

    And im not sure how anyone can vote for Dave. His talent/ creativity in songwriting is unmatched.
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    Boyd by far. It's kind of funny how bad he is. As far as Stefan or Dave go, they never really play that 'hard' stuff. The stuff they do might be cool and a bit tricky, but they play the same stuff every night, particularly Dave (on guitar that is). I feel like Stefan could be not that great, he never does particularly hard stuff. Then Carter, Tim, Jeff, and Rashawn are on another level IMO.

    What does hard have to do with anything?
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