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Old 01-20-2017, 09:06 PM   #1231
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Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

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What baffles me, and someone fill me in if I'm missing something, is how a fanbase can be SO against scalping tickets, but be fine with paying the upcharge for "premium" tickets.

I'm not saying you're wrong for paying for it, because I've paid a premium on Stubhub, etc. before. But it's just amazing that DMB basically instituted their own scalping service to make more money on their own tickets, and for some reason that's ok but Stubhub, etc. is frowned upon.
I'm not the biggest fan of Premium tickets, but I think the fact that the money goes to the people producing the product and not some asshole who is neither producing the product nor adding anything of value to it, yet is profiting off it nonetheless, is a pretty big difference.
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    I have a single ticket for sale for for Grand Prairie in 205 row HH if anyone is interested.
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    Old 01-20-2017, 10:26 PM   #1233
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    Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

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    I'm not the biggest fan of Premium tickets, but I think the fact that the money goes to the people producing the product and not some asshole who is neither producing the product nor adding anything of value to it, yet is profiting off it nonetheless, is a pretty big difference.
    Live Nation/Capshaw?

    the band doesn't see that.
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    Old 01-21-2017, 06:06 AM   #1234
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    Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

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    Live Nation/Capshaw?

    the band doesn't see that.

    I'm pretty sure Capshaw works on points, so yea he's seeing some of it but so is the band. But I specifically worded it as "those producing the product" and not "the band" because I know they're obviously not getting all of it. Capshaw is part of the production, and I'll put more money in his pockets long before i'll put a dime in the pocket of johnny jerkoff on stubhub.

    Another difference between Premium and Stubhub is the swag. I've only done Premium once, for WPB N2 two years ago. I framed one of the posters, and I use the backpack regularly (it's the one I took to ACL this year). I sold the extra poster and the blanket and recouped some of the cost of the tickets.
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    Old 01-21-2017, 07:22 AM   #1235
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    i agree. but ALL acts are doing it now. that's the sad part. and for much, much higher prices. dmb still keeps it somewhat worth it with the extra swag and low prices.

    still wrong that senior seats are going to the highest bidder.
    Fully agree. I used to get great seats fairly regularly and then premium was introduced and then they went to crap. I only get to go to a handful of shows each year so I suck it up.

    Also see most other bands doing similar "VIP" and often without swag. I do like the credit card entry type to prevent scalping and even transfers, but now that just makes ticketmaster make more fees as they've setup transfer marketplaces (with fees). There has to be a better way...

    I'd also say I see (maybe just a feeling) more abuse each year of warehouse members requesting tickets to the hot locations each tour with no intention of attending but instead to use as a trade tool for other shows they plan to attend.
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    i figure it can't hurt to prepare them. a blanket "no tailgating allowed" isn't really going to deter folks.
    Or it just encourages them to give a heads up to Sugarland PD to patrol the parking lot and give tickets out for open containers???
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    Old 01-21-2017, 07:38 AM   #1237
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    Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

    Whats the difference between selling a ticket and a poster over face?
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    Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

    One has value after the event.

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    Old 01-21-2017, 09:20 AM   #1239
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    Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

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    Whats the difference between selling a ticket and a poster over face?
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    One has value after the event.
    This. The value of the poster is the poster, as a collectible piece of art. The value of the ticket is the event it gives you access to. It's worthless as soon as the event ends. The value of a poster increases over time.


    There's a difference between flipping and collecting though, and that's tougher to pin down if you're not in the poster game.
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    Has anyone seen the poster yet?...or if we can buy before the show?

    Thanks
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    Old 01-21-2017, 09:44 AM   #1241
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    Has anyone seen the poster yet?...or if we can buy before the show?

    Thanks
    We most likely won't see it until the day of
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    Old 01-21-2017, 09:45 AM   #1242
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    Re: ***Official D&T Texas Two Step 2017***

    Too early for that.

    If it's Methane, and I hope it's not, they'll probably tease it tomorrow or Monday maybe.


    If they sell before the show, it won't be till day of, early afternoon.
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    Old 01-21-2017, 10:52 AM   #1243
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    I have a single ticket for sale for for Grand Prairie in 205 row HH if anyone is interested.
    Ticket has been sold
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    Old 01-21-2017, 10:56 AM   #1244
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    For Sale: Sugarland pair of lowers. 105 U seats 1 and 2
    I got these from the recent TM drop.
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    Old 01-21-2017, 11:17 AM   #1245
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    Or it just encourages them to give a heads up to Sugarland PD to patrol the parking lot and give tickets out for open containers???
    funny story, Woodlands is probably the most patrol'd and adamant about no tailgating. but when they got enough complaints and emails from parotheads, they gave them their own parking lot to tailgate in.

    and that lot gets CRAZY.

    there's nothing wrong with letting a venue know what's up and what your fanbase/group likes to do.
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    This. The value of the poster is the poster, as a collectible piece of art. The value of the ticket is the event it gives you access to. It's worthless as soon as the event ends. The value of a poster increases over time.


    There's a difference between flipping and collecting though, and that's tougher to pin down if you're not in the poster game.
    Yeah... I get the whole "value after the show piece" but it's annoying when you see people flipping a poster on the boards the day after a show.

    I got my Evolution portfolio a few weeks ago and I really like it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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    Old 01-21-2017, 11:23 AM   #1247
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    Also Matthew, I got Lockman's extra single in 103 for Dallas, so I'm joining the crew in row P!
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    Old 01-21-2017, 01:08 PM   #1248
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    Yeah... I get the whole "value after the show piece" but it's annoying when you see people flipping a poster on the boards the day after a show.

    I got my Evolution portfolio a few weeks ago and I really like it. Thanks for the suggestion.
    Yea, flipping isn't cool. And that's something I try to regulate on here.

    Glad you like the portfolio. They're so much better than having them between cardboard under my bed.

    Or in tubes. Drives me crazy when I see people say "stored in tube since the show" like that's a good thing.

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    Also Matthew, I got Lockman's extra single in 103 for Dallas, so I'm joining the crew in row P!
    Awesome. What seat number?
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    Woodlands is probably the most patrol'd and adamant about no tailgating.
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    Interesting. I go to multiple shows a year at Cynthia Woods (Houstonian) and have never once been given a hassle. Just keep the drinks in a koozie or Solo cup and have never had a problem. I'm assuming Sugarland will be the same as long as folks aren't out of control...
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    Old 01-21-2017, 01:37 PM   #1250
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    Awesome. What seat number?
    I'm not sure. Lockman didn't remember. But I know Mike and Kelly are in that row as well. Should be a great time.
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    Anyone know what time the lots open in Sugar Land??
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    Or in tubes. Drives me crazy when I see people say "stored in tube since the show" like that's a good thing.
    Yes I have seen that a fair amount.

    Ive always known posters should be stored flat... but haven't known exactly why. Is it because that if its rolled for a long time it will never flatten out correctly? Is it something with the ink?
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    Old 01-21-2017, 01:42 PM   #1253
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    Considering all the tickets that have dropped on TM for Sugarland over the last few weeks and Lee's comment that the WH got over 50% of the tickets, its no wonder that there were almost no tickets in the public on sale. They must have held back a sizable portion of the less than 50% they started with.
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    Old 01-21-2017, 04:30 PM   #1254
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    I'm not the biggest fan of Premium tickets, but I think the fact that the money goes to the people producing the product and not some asshole who is neither producing the product nor adding anything of value to it, yet is profiting off it nonetheless, is a pretty big difference.
    I mean, I get that, but it just seems like a strange line in the sand. Especially when the band and people that primarily receive the money for that product are likely much, much better off than the guy trying to turn tickets.

    Dave is worth probably upwards of $300 million. Lord knows how much Cap$haw is worth. This is a band that has the balls to charge $150 for a guitar strap because it has a fire dancer on it. This band and it's management routinely pick the pockets of fans because they know they have a product that some people just literally can't say "no" to. And now they're basically scalping their own tickets which, in turn, kills seniority even more.

    So I don't know, maybe it's just me...but I think all things considered, there either should be more outrage toward premium tickets or less outrage at scalpers.
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    I agree. But I'm a sucker that says, whelp.... my seniority is worthless. Nothing I can do but play their game and buy my seniority back with premium tix.

    And it's a losing battle. Nothing we fans can do about it. Remember the last person who started a petition?
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    Methane hasn't done Texas in a few years. Hope we get someone we typically dont for DMB.

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    Too early for that.

    If it's Methane, and I hope it's not, they'll probably tease it tomorrow or Monday maybe.


    If they sell before the show, it won't be till day of, early afternoon.
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    please no mehthane, please no mehthane...

    edit: unless they do something cool, like a unique flower diptych.

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    For Sale: Sugarland pair of lowers. 105 U seats 1 and 2
    I got these from the recent TM drop.
    How much?
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    Looking for two lower level Grand Prairie tix (100 or 200) if you all see anything out there. Thanks!
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    Tickets have a 7:30 time printed on them. Are we expecting an 8:15ish actual start time for these shows?
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