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Old 10-29-2015, 07:01 AM   #1
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Live Trax 36 - 07.26.15 - 3CD+2DVD (DMB skimps on Blu-ray again)

Boo! Where's the bloody Blu-rays!!??!!??

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On July 26, 2015, the second night of a two-night run, Dave Matthews Band played their 29th show at Alpine Valley Music Theatre. A highlight of the 2015 Summer Tour, the show will be released in its entirety as Live Trax 36, a 2-DVD / 3-CD set.

Following the two set format of the summer tour, DVD 1 showcases the playfully intimate acoustic set. The show kicks off with three solo selections by Dave: Beach Ball, Belly Full and the recent return of Let You Down - the song’s second full performance since 1997. Tim and Carter then join Dave on stage for a percussive rendition of Oh. Additional standouts of this first set include a powerful The Stone, and an acoustic set debut of Cry Freedom.

The evening’s electric second set, DVD 2, runs the gamut of the band’s lengthy career. DMB classics such as Minarets and Jimi Thing stand alongside newer selections, such as Belly Belly Nice and the otherwise unreleased Black And Blue Bird. Upon the final notes of a sprawling #41, the band takes a cue from the chanting crowd and launches into a funky full-length rendition of Thank You (Falettin Me Be Mice Elf Agin). The encore wraps up the performance with a sweet rendition of Sister and a powerful two-punch ending of Two Step > Halloween.

All preorders will receive a copy of Encore Trax - Alpine Valley Extended, which features highlights from the July 25, 2015 show. While supplies last.
So if you want the DVD and the 24-bit audio you have to make two purchases and order the 24-bit separately.

Blu-ray would have provided 24-bit lossless stereo and surround (if they bothered doing a surround track).

Stuck in 2005.

Pre-ordered, because I'm just another sucker.
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    Re: Live Trax 36 - 07.26.15 - 3CD+2DVD (DMB skimps on Blu-ray again)

    Cause they are just grabbing the footage shot for the screens. I've said it before, they need to do a proper video release again. Have we had anything since Europe in 2009?

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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:04 AM   #3
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    Looks good, will buy.
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:07 AM   #4
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    Cause they are just grabbing the footage shot for the screens. I've said it before, they need to do a proper video release again. Have we had anything since Europe in 2009?

    I'll get this one probably. No ladies!
    That footage is still shot with HD cameras. See the YouTube vid for Rhyme & Reason from Greek, looks WAY better than the DVD and they're massively compressed to 2-4 Mbps vs Blu-ray's up to 40 Mbps for video.
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:07 AM   #5
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    Finally a show I was at made a Live Trax!
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:09 AM   #6
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    http://davematthewsband.shop.musicto...&pc=DM411COMBO

    Track List

    Disc 1:
    Beach Ball
    Let You Down
    Belly Full
    Oh
    The Stone
    Snow Outside
    Satellite
    Tripping Billies
    Cry Freedom
    What Would You Say
    Seek Up

    Disc 2:
    Belly Belly Nice
    Seven
    Black and Blue Bird
    Minarets
    Gravedigger
    Don't Drink the Water

    Disc 3:
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    Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf)
    You Might Die Trying
    Digging a Ditch
    Jimi Thing
    Grey Street
    Sister
    Two Step
    Halloween

    Encore Trax Track List:
    Little Red Bird
    The Song That Jane Likes
    Pig
    Big Eyed Fish
    Lie In Our Graves
    Captain
    Lying in the Hands of God
    Drive In, Drive Out

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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:10 AM   #7
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    Will order

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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:10 AM   #8
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    Awesome, such a great weekend.
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:10 AM   #9
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    Re: Live Trax 36 - 07.26.15 - 3CD+2DVD (DMB skimps on Blu-ray again)

    "Skimps"

    Sigh. Again, it's about volume and appeal.

    There's not enough volume of sales to justify a Blu-ray and DVD option. DVD opens it up to anyone with a Blu-ray player AND a DVD player. Blu-ray only reduced the volume of sales made. Appealing to the lowest common denominator allows the product to sell enough to justify making it at all.
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:10 AM   #10
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    Looks like a great set list.

    2 DVD's instead of 1, does that mean better audio quality (PCM..) compared to the previous released DVD's (live trax 32/28) ?
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:12 AM   #11
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    http://davematthewsband.shop.musicto...&pc=DM411COMBO

    Track List

    Disc 1:
    Beach Ball
    Let You Down
    Belly Full
    Oh
    The Stone
    Snow Outside
    Satellite
    Tripping Billies
    Cry Freedom
    What Would You Say
    Seek Up

    Disc 2:
    Belly Belly Nice
    Seven
    Black and Blue Bird
    Minarets
    Gravedigger
    Don't Drink the Water

    Disc 3:
    #41
    Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf)
    You Might Die Trying
    Digging a Ditch
    Jimi Thing
    Grey Street
    Sister
    Two Step
    Halloween

    Encore Trax Track List:
    Little Red Bird
    The Song That Jane Likes
    Pig
    Big Eyed Fish
    Lie In Our Graves
    Above is incomplete.

    Encore Trax Track List:
    Little Red Bird
    The Song That Jane Likes
    Pig
    Big Eyed Fish
    Lie In Our Graves
    Captain
    Lying in the Hands of God
    Drive In, Drive Out
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    I really only want the acoustic set from this show, other than that, meh.
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    Yes! First show I was at to be released. Very excited for this.
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    Old 10-29-2015, 07:14 AM   #14
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    Above is incomplete.

    Encore Trax Track List:
    Little Red Bird
    The Song That Jane Likes
    Pig
    Big Eyed Fish
    Lie In Our Graves
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    Fixed, thanks.

    I would swap that LITHOG for BOWA, personally

    But still, damn that's a nice release

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    yeah on the fence about this release.
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    Do we know what will be on the DVD?
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    Good release - best content for this summer tour. Can't complain at all.
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    Do we know what will be on the DVD?
    It's the exact same concert as the CD.
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    Awesome. Was at the show on the 25th only and they definitely got the bonus tracks right. BOWA would have been nice, but they chose a solid set of songs from that one.
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    That footage is still shot with HD cameras. See the YouTube vid for Rhyme & Reason from Greek, looks WAY better than the DVD and they're massively compressed to 2-4 Mbps vs Blu-ray's up to 40 Mbps for video.
    I agree it looks better but if you are expecting them to do bluray on something they are just pulling from the concert shot, then you're dreaming.
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    Couldn't play a DVD in my house if I wanted to. Left that behind years ago. Oh well. Another Pro Shot DMB show I can't watch because DMB doesn't know what year it is.
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    My concern as always will be the mix. The one from last year was not very good. I regret buying it actually and it's one thing that's making me question if I really want to do this one.
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    Couldn't play a DVD in my house if I wanted to. Left that behind years ago. Oh well. Another Pro Shot DMB show I can't watch because DMB doesn't know what year it is.

    No computer?
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    Couldn't play a DVD in my house if I wanted to. Left that behind years ago. Oh well. Another Pro Shot DMB show I can't watch because DMB doesn't know what year it is.
    Why can't you watch it in your house? Do you not have a bluray player either?
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    There's not enough volume of sales to justify a Blu-ray and DVD option.
    Incorrect, sales 101 - you can't determine what the sales of an item will be you've never made available.

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    Blu-ray only reduced the volume of sales made.
    Who said anything about only doing Blu-ray? Even Hollywood studios who can sell millions of copies of a new release Blu-ray in opening week aren't doing Blu-ray only, puzzling comment.

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    Appealing to the lowest common denominator allows the product to sell enough to justify making it at all.
    Why offer 24-bit then when you already have .mp3 available?
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    Couldn't play a DVD in my house if I wanted to. Left that behind years ago. Oh well. Another Pro Shot DMB show I can't watch because DMB doesn't know what year it is.
    This is in part why a release like this won't see Blu-ray. You've essentially got three markets. DVD, Blu, and people who have left physical media behind. Blu excludes 2 of those. DVD at least captures 2 of 3.
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    Why can't you watch it in your house? Do you not have a bluray player either?
    Hell no. Why on earth would I still want to be collecting physical media in 2015?

    1080p digital downloads are great, and have been for years. No need for physical media. None whatosever.

    And no, better audio on BluRay is not motivation enough to horde discs.
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    Incorrect, sales 101 - you can't determine what the sales of an item will be you've never made available.
    I think you failed Sales 101.

    You're telling me anytime someone takes a product to market they go "We have no idea what the sales will be! It's never been sold before! It could be ANYTHING!
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    Hell no. Why on earth would I still want to be collecting physical media in 2015?



    1080p digital downloads are great, and have been for years. No need for physical media. None whatosever.



    And no, better audio on BluRay is not motivation enough to horde discs.

    No vinyl?
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