2015 DMB Attendance & Gross figures

[DDTW4136]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

They may not be your cup of tea. They're not for me. But they do not blow. They're musically way more talented than dmb. Fan boys in full fan boy mode

not sure about way more... carter and jeff are above the phish "average"
yeah, that's about it though. maybe phish is more talented, but not way more.

also that doesnt mean all that much. if dave wrote the lyrics trey generally writes he would be absolutely chastised here. also, jeff is a more talented sax player than roi (coming from a sax player). so pure talent is quite overrated. all about how you use that talent.

which, as i type my random thoughts, phish uses well. they highlight their musicianship rather than their songwriting.

im seeing them in two weeks and couldnt be more psyched

[TimHonks]

But how can we explain that Phish can't sell out at venue that holds less than 8K?!?!?!

[ToySoldier#34]

Phish could be 100X more talented than DMB and I would have no clue because they don't write music that has ever really caught my attention, DMB has always had that ability.

[LetYouDown22]

Originally Posted by TimHonks

But how can we explain that Phish can't sell out at venue that holds less than 8K?!?!?!

Phish fans must have spent all their money on seeing Trey w/The Dead in Chicago. But it was worth it. The 4th was a phenomenal show. The 2 shows I've seen w/Trey (D&F and GD) have been great, but I'm just not a fan of Phish unfortunately.

[flutterby]

Originally Posted by 42graystreet

I'll be very curious to see how their numbers look this summer. They play Alpine this weekend, also a Saturday/Sunday. I'm willing to bet they pull in roughly the same crowds as DMB.

I'm not so sure. Anecdotally, I know a couple people that would go to Alpine, but they are saving their money for Magnaball. I don't have the actual numbers for this year, but they are struggling to sell tickets. Worse than DMB.

Originally Posted by blaise34

Because Phish fucking blows

come on. That's just incorrect. You can "not get" their music, but you can't deny they are talented musicians. I've never been a phan, it just doesn't connect with me, but I appreciate who they are.

Originally Posted by bowa36

Yeah I know, just stating that because I do comment on how annoying some Phish fans are

Well isn't THAT the pot calling the kettle black.

[podiumboy]

Another one showed up this week.

33 Dave Matthews Band Bell Centre
Montreal, Quebec July 22, 2015 $461,453
8,428 / 8,688 1 / 0 $61.62, $30.81 Live Nation/evenko

The Bell Center has a capacity of WAY more than 8,688. Case in point;

U2
June 12-13 & 16-17, 2015 - Montréal, QC - Bell Centre
GROSS: $7,236,524
ATTENDANCE: 80,911
SHOWS: 4
SELLOUTS: 4
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $89.44

Not doing the whole U2 vs. DMB thing, just showing the Bell Center has a capacity of over 20,000 when utilizing the entire arena. Not bad for a midweek show for DMB at this point, like I said it's more profitable than staying home (maybe?), but I reckon they won't be returning to Montreal next year.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by podiumboy

Another one showed up this week.

33 Dave Matthews Band Bell Centre
Montreal, Quebec July 22, 2015 $461,453
8,428 / 8,688 1 / 0 $61.62, $30.81 Live Nation/evenko

The Bell Center has a capacity of WAY more than 8,688. Case in point;

U2
June 12-13 & 16-17, 2015 - Montréal, QC - Bell Centre
GROSS: $7,236,524
ATTENDANCE: 80,911
SHOWS: 4
SELLOUTS: 4
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $89.44

Not doing the whole U2 vs. DMB thing, just showing the Bell Center has a capacity of over 20,000 when utilizing the entire arena. Not bad for a midweek show for DMB at this point, like I said it's more profitable than staying home (maybe?), but I reckon they won't be returning to Montreal next year.

U2 has a way different set up for this tour, though. People are lined all up and down the stage. IDK how much of a difference that makes, or what DMB's set up was for that show, but it might not be AS damning as is being made out to be (although probably still pretty bad.)

Also, U2 > Earth.

[podiumboy]

I'm a huge fan... even though they did do the horrible thing of giving me a free album, I still like them!

I would imagine DMB had all the seats behind the stage blocked off, and probably half of the upper bowl curtained off to achieve that capacity. Really, 8,500 people or whatever isn't awful. Arenas are set up to host smaller shows all the time. U2 are a different beast entirely. They only tour ever 4 years or so. They really are a phenomenal live act (even the U2 haters can't deny that they must be doing something right to still be successful 35 years into their career).

[willndmb]

U2 is fucking awesome and I would love to see them live someday but like many other bands they don't tour anywhere near as big as dmb so that makes it easier to sell out too.
If dmb cut their touring down both in amount of shows and freq you would see more sell outs as people would have the I need to see them now because who knows when the next time I can feeling.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by DMBstandUP1984

And as far as I know U2 doesn't tour every year

and the lead singer of M5 is on one of the biggest shows on tv.

They don't tour every year, but honestly U2 probably could and they'd still sell out.

They added a shitton of shows this year at almost every venue they played because they kept selling like hot cakes.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by willndmb

U2 is fucking awesome and I would love to see them live someday but like many other bands they don't tour anywhere near as big as dmb so that makes it easier to sell out too.
If dmb cut their touring down both in amount of shows and freq you would see more sell outs as people would have the I need to see them now because who knows when the next time I can feeling.

You probably just missed out on your last chance, unless you wanna go to Europe and that's a disgusting thought.

U2 could tour arenas every year and they'd do great every time. The fact that they live up to (and in many ways exceed) the expectations of their live shows AND that they have an amazing catalogue of hits that span decades, they're a super easy draw.

[bwags]

Originally Posted by podiumboy

I'm a huge fan... even though they did do the horrible thing of giving me a free album, I still like them!

I would imagine DMB had all the seats behind the stage blocked off, and probably half of the upper bowl curtained off to achieve that capacity. Really, 8,500 people or whatever isn't awful. Arenas are set up to host smaller shows all the time. U2 are a different beast entirely. They only tour ever 4 years or so. They really are a phenomenal live act (even the U2 haters can't deny that they must be doing something right to still be successful 35 years into their career).

I've made the trip up to the Bell Centre for a few shows since '98 and the stage has always been set up mid floor. I assume that's how it was this year, which accounts for the 8k capacity.

Re: U2. They're a classics act now, no one wants to hear their new stuff...which is fine. I've seen them about 10 times over the years and their show is fantastic. Older crowd than DMB for sure. Also, with Bono's accident, etc. it might be a 'holy shit, these guys might not be around for much longer' effect. Touring every 4 years certainly builds up the demand.

[comeandsee41]

Originally Posted by bwags

I've made the trip up to the Bell Centre for a few shows since '98 and the stage has always been set up mid floor. I assume that's how it was this year, which accounts for the 8k capacity.

Re: U2. They're a classics act now, no one wants to hear their new stuff...which is fine. I've seen them about 10 times over the years and their show is fantastic. Older crowd than DMB for sure. Also, with Bono's accident, etc. it might be a 'holy shit, these guys might not be around for much longer' effect. Touring every 4 years certainly builds up the demand.

um what? i was at the first night of the MSG shows and some of the newer songs got just as much of a reaction as the classics

[BotheLaneFan]

The new stuff was awesome as hell, live. They put a great production behind them. People went apeshit for some of the new songs at The Forum. Also, scanning the crowd...pretty much the same age range as a DMB show.

[TimHonks]

I'm shocked that u2 can play the same set every night and remain popular. I don't get it but they must be doing something right. Not touring every year and this being their last tour (?) helps a lot I'm sure.

[Dave&Tim41]

Originally Posted by bwags

I've made the trip up to the Bell Centre for a few shows since '98 and the stage has always been set up mid floor. I assume that's how it was this year, which accounts for the 8k capacity.

Re: U2. They're a classics act now, no one wants to hear their new stuff...which is fine. I've seen them about 10 times over the years and their show is fantastic. Older crowd than DMB for sure. Also, with Bono's accident, etc. it might be a 'holy shit, these guys might not be around for much longer' effect. Touring every 4 years certainly builds up the demand.

Thats not true at all. As others have mentioned, the reception for the new songs was great -- I went to 4 shows at The Garden and the crowd was really into the new songs. Not to mention, the new album was really good.

If DMB were to take 4 years off and then tour, they would easily sell out an entire tour and would be a "hot ticket." The fact that they tour every year, on top of not playing their best material and alienating their hardcore fanbase, makes them an easy skip for a lot of people. I had tickets to 4 shows and wound up only going to one because of the setlists.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by TimHonks

I'm shocked that u2 can play the same set every night and remain popular. I don't get it but they must be doing something right. Not touring every year and this being their last tour (?) helps a lot I'm sure.

They play basically the same set every night, but for set two they mixed it up a fair bit. No one knows if this will be their last tour, they sounded like they could play for another 20 years, but it's really up to whether or not they want to.

[comeandsee41]

it's def not their last tour, but i can see it being their last album. in fact it would be a good "ending" from an album stand point.

and they can sell out every show with the same set list because they don't have a reputation of changing the set lists nightly (like phish, dmb, etc..), nor do they tour every year. so they can sell out multiple nights in a row at MSG because there are enough u2 fans out there to fill the stadiums.

totally agree with Dave&Tim41. if DMB took a year or two off, they would sell out each show.

hate to say it, but coupled with lack of set list variety, the fact that dmb tours every summer has diluted the product.

[monizzle145]

Originally Posted by BotheBradyFan

U2 has a way different set up for this tour, though. People are lined all up and down the stage. IDK how much of a difference that makes, or what DMB's set up was for that show, but it might not be AS damning as is being made out to be (although probably still pretty bad.)

Also, U2 > Earth.

Being a hockey fan i know the bell centre has 20K for hockey games which outside of the United center (blackhawks) are some of the only venues to have 20,000 in ground seats.

The Bell Center Has 15,000 listed for concerts with an end stage so the numbers are pretty low for Montreal DMB 2 Sets.

It's also interesting U2 is doing arena tours with 3 or 4 shows in my local markets of Boston and NYC versus the 360 Stadium tours. They used to sell out football stadiums in every major city with those 360 tours. I guess they are giving fans a more intimate setting and just doing more shows per stop.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by monizzle145

Being a hockey fan i know the bell centre has 20K for hockey games which outside of the United center (blackhawks) are some of the only venues to have 20,000 in ground seats.

The Bell Center Has 15,000 listed for concerts with an end stage so the numbers are pretty low for Montreal DMB 2 Sets.

It's also interesting U2 is doing arena tours with 3 or 4 shows in my local markets of Boston and NYC versus the 360 Stadium tours. They used to sell out football stadiums in every major city with those 360 tours. I guess they are giving fans a more intimate setting and just doing more shows per stop.

Pretty much that, it fit the show they created. They could have gone as big as 360, but they did this instead.

[flutterby]

Wow. All this U2 ball washing is getting a little nauseating.

I saw them once, they put on a good show. Once was enough though, I'm just not a fan. I like some radio hits, just can't get into it. And their new album blows. Get it the fuck off my phone.

[ThatLetter]

Originally Posted by flutterby

Wow. All this U2 ball washing is getting a little nauseating.

I saw them once, they put on a good show. Once was enough though, I'm just not a fan. I like some radio hits, just can't get into it. And their new album blows. Get it the fuck off my phone.

Fresh take. I like it.

[LetYouDown22]

Originally Posted by flutterby

Wow. All this U2 ball washing is getting a little nauseating.

I saw them once, they put on a good show. Once was enough though, I'm just not a fan. I like some radio hits, just can't get into it. And their new album blows. Get it the fuck off my phone.

Please let me know how I can remove that album from my phone. It's like my phone caught a virus when that appeared. That image of Bono on my iTunes needs to go ASAP. I hear them enough on the radio. That's about all I can tolerate.

[comeandsee41]

Originally Posted by flutterby

Wow. All this U2 ball washing is getting a little nauseating.

I saw them once, they put on a good show. Once was enough though, I'm just not a fan. I like some radio hits, just can't get into it. And their new album blows. Get it the fuck off my phone.

how is it ball washing to simply like a band? no one said they are perfect and every single song is incredible. we just said they kick ass live.

[aggiekjw]

These numbers aren't bad. Many bands are struggling to sell tickets. Arcade Fire's last tour was terrible. They won album of the year and are in their prime.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by TimHonks

You can pull Phish tickets for their show Wednesday night at a venue that holds less than 8K people.

How can we explain this?

Originally Posted by TimHonks

But how can we explain that Phish can't sell out at venue that holds less than 8K?!?!?!

Phish has never been anywhere near as commercially successful as DMB. No stadium tours, always worked in smaller venues/theaters, etc.

It's also a one off in Kansas City on a Wednesday between two night stands in cities many people planned travel for (Atlanta and Alpine).

Originally Posted by cjs4410

Phish is absolutely on fire this summer tour.

Yep.

Originally Posted by bowa36

As is DMB. Great tour so far.

Nope.

As a tour this summer has been completely forgettable for DMB. In two years they have not matched Camden 2 '13. Yes, there have been a few great shows and Dave brought Let You Down back but some of the shows have been straight up bad.

By comparison (and only since it was brought up) Phish has played on bad show so far and everything else has been at least above average. The most jaded Phish fans out there are raving about this summer.

And as per usual, they'll surpass DMB's 37 show unique song count tonight in their 11th of the summer.

[Spaceman8]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

Phish has never been anywhere near as commercially successful as DMB. No stadium tours, always worked in smaller venues/theaters, etc.

It's also a one off in Kansas City on a Wednesday between two night stands in cities many people planned travel for (Atlanta and Alpine).



Yep.



Nope.

As a tour this summer has been completely forgettable for DMB. In two years they have not matched Camden 2 '13. Yes, there have been a few great shows and Dave brought Let You Down back but some of the shows have been straight up bad.

By comparison (and only since it was brought up) Phish has played on bad show so far and everything else has been at least above average. The most jaded Phish fans out there are raving about this summer.

And as per usual, they'll surpass DMB's 37 show unique song count tonight in their 11th of the summer.

didnt you forget about DMB like 4 years ago?

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by Spaceman8

didnt you forget about DMB like 4 years ago?

You registered for this site within the last 5 days and have Spaceman in your username.

Enjoy your new alter!

[Spaceman8]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

You registered for this site within the last 5 days and have Spaceman in your username.

Enjoy your new alter!

No, I mean it...not even trying to be a dick. I'm just thinking there's gotta be SOMETHING that still draws you to DMB.

[laverwater]

Originally Posted by flutterby

Wow. All this U2 ball washing is getting a little nauseating.

I saw them once, they put on a good show. Once was enough though, I'm just not a fan. I like some radio hits, just can't get into it. And their new album blows. Get it the fuck off my phone.

Originally Posted by LetYouDown22

Please let me know how I can remove that album from my phone. It's like my phone caught a virus when that appeared. That image of Bono on my iTunes needs to go ASAP. I hear them enough on the radio. That's about all I can tolerate.

Ah wtf? I just realized I have that album too. Knew I shouldn't have updated my phone. Fucking U2.