New York Giants

[ryguy469]

Originally Posted by haybale97

As a third down guy and special teamed I think he's great. If Williams gets hurt and he's our main running option he sucks. Eli looks (in part) as great as he does because the D has to respect the run. That could significantly screw up the offense.

I think going 1 and 1 on these next two games is realistic. Giants cannot go 0-2. That'd crush him


It's unbelievable how well the giants draft D line and develop that talent. Hankins is a hell of run stopper

Wholeheartedly agree on all the above. I think Williams is going to be fine as the workhorse (even though he was clearly overused in college). As a complimentary back, I think Hillis is fine.

0-2 and we can kiss this season goodbye. Hard to imagine they recover from that.

I'm surprised Robert Nunn (D line coach) hasn't gotten a look for Defensive Coordinator position somewhere with all the success he's had.

[ryguy469]

Jayron Hosley added to the 53 man roster. Surprising move, Giants usually don't give many chances to guys with drug suspensions. I'm glad he's back though he can definitely help in the secondary.

[cooke726]

Originally Posted by ryguy469

Wholeheartedly agree on all the above. I think Williams is going to be fine as the workhorse (even though he was clearly overused in college). As a complimentary back, I think Hillis is fine.

0-2 and we can kiss this season goodbye. Hard to imagine they recover from that.

I'm surprised Robert Nunn (D line coach) hasn't gotten a look for Defensive Coordinator position somewhere with all the success he's had.

His name actually popped up briefly last year when the Eagles were filling their staff

[HoldemHart]

Sick to my stomach over Cruz, that was pretty horrible.

I couldn't believe how fast the Giants diagnosed him.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

Sick to my stomach over Cruz, that was pretty horrible.

I couldn't believe how fast the Giants diagnosed him.

it's an easy diagnosis

they knew what the injury was before he even got up off the turf

[HoldemHart]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

it's an easy diagnosis

they knew what the injury was before he even got up off the turf

My point is the Giants are typically guarded with that kind of info but sent out a tweet literally five minutes after he went down.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

My point is the Giants are typically guarded with that kind of info but sent out a tweet literally five minutes after he went down.

yea, i mean, in a situation where the severity was quite obvious, why play games? seems like the right call

only reason i'm saying that is because i felt really bad for Cruz. But the Giants gain nothing by holding back the diagnosis...an x-ray would only confirm what they knew already is all i'm saying

[keithcoldroses]

Cruz was grabbing his knee before he even jumped for the ball...brutal injury

[Funkhouser]

Feel for Cruz and the Giants. Philly hospitals are really good so he is getting good treatment. He's probably at UPenn.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Feel for Cruz and the Giants. Philly hospitals are really good so he is getting good treatment. He's probably at UPenn.

he doesn't need a heart transplant, dude

torn patellar can be easily treated anywhere

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

he doesn't need a heart transplant, dude

torn patellar can be easily treated anywhere

I was talking about the hot dr.s

[hailtopitt]

tight tight

[keithcoldroses]

That was the worst Giant game I think I've ever watched, factoring everything in.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by keithcoldroses

That was the worst Giant game I think I've ever watched, factoring everything in.

It reminded me of watching Revis tear his ACL against the Dolphins early in 2012. Not that we were gonna be good, but it was pretty much the pin that popped that season's balloon.

[HoldemHart]

Originally Posted by keithcoldroses

That was the worst Giant game I think I've ever watched, factoring everything in.

Just saw that it was the first game in NYG history that the Giants had at least 10 punts, 10 penalties and allowed 400 yards. That combined with losing Cruz pretty much solidifies your point.

That just sucked all around.

[keithcoldroses]

I just don't understand how a team can look so good for 3 weeks, and then look completely helpless the next. It's mind boggling.

[Ascf33]

Yeah that was a miserable game to watch. No one to blame but the O-Line. What a dogshit night.

[thehammer316]

If I played DE against Justin Pugh last night, Phi would have extended my contract. Our OL was fucking God-Awful. Zero to hero and back again. Hate to say it, Dallas is really a must win:

[ryguy469]

Originally Posted by keithcoldroses

I just don't understand how a team can look so good for 3 weeks, and then look completely helpless the next. It's mind boggling.

I hate to say it, but who did the Giants really beat in those three weeks? Washington, Atlanta and Houston are by no means good teams.

As awful as that game was, Superbowl XXXV was way harder to watch.

Originally Posted by thehammer316

If I played DE against Justin Pugh last night, Phi would have extended my contract. Our OL was fucking God-Awful. Zero to hero and back again. Hate to say it, Dallas is really a must win:

Dallas is an absolute must win. Time to put up or shut up.

[cooke726]

Coming off of a shut out loss to a division rival----with Dallas coming off a huge win and coming back from west coast playing a team coming off of a shutout...I'm taking New York in the under and that's without seeing the line! Big trap game for dallas

[Ascf33]

damn. That was a winnable game.

[CrashDMB237]

Who would have thought it would be a TE that has turnover problems this year?

[HoldemHart]

Originally Posted by Ascf33

damn. That was a winnable game.

Brutal.

Hopefully Jennings will be back following the bye.

[CrashDMB237]

Beckham looks very good.
Andre Williams is painful to watch.

I mean, aren't the Giants supposed to be running the west coast offense? Since when does that call for running a guy up the gut for 1 yard every time he touches the ball? How did they not run 10 slants to Beckham? Guy was getting separation whenever he wanted the times I saw him. There's no reason for him not to be catching 5 slants per game when your best RB option is Andre Williams.

[ryguy469]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

Beckham looks very good.
Andre Williams is painful to watch.

I mean, aren't the Giants supposed to be running the west coast offense? Since when does that call for running a guy up the gut for 1 yard every time he touches the ball? How did they not run 10 slants to Beckham? Guy was getting separation whenever he wanted the times I saw him. There's no reason for him not to be catching 5 slants per game when your best RB option is Andre Williams.

Coughlin demands balance regardless of who is in the backfield. Andre Williams strength is running between the tackles, although he sure hasn't displayed it these last two weeks. Clearly the rookie is much more suited to be Jennings change of pace back.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by ryguy469

Coughlin demands balance regardless of who is in the backfield. Andre Williams strength is running between the tackles, although he sure hasn't displayed it these last two weeks. Clearly the rookie is much more suited to be Jennings change of pace back.

If you're going to run between the tackles, use Hillis. Sad as that sounds, he's the better back right now. Can't Michael Cox run outside a bit? I dunno, it's painful watching Williams run honestly. He's not there yet at all.

[HoldemHart]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

If you're going to run between the tackles, use Hillis. Sad as that sounds, he's the better back right now. Can't Michael Cox run outside a bit? I dunno, it's painful watching Williams run honestly. He's not there yet at all.

We get that Jets fans hate winning and/or winning Super Bowls but it's seriously time to change that sig of yours.

Actually don't change that sig, it gets funnier by the week.

[HoldemHart]

Man.......we suck.

[keithcoldroses]

Soooooo bad

[ryguy469]

Atrocious.

At least we're not the jets