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Old 02-05-2016, 12:26 PM   #811
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Charging him with murder removes all of his leverage in the civil suit.

In the court of public opinion, "I'm innocent of wrongdoing" turns into "Well, this prick's still guilty of something" in a hurry just on the basis of being charged.
Murdering someone does the same thing.
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    if I was Avery's lawyer, my first advice would have been, "don't murder Theresa Halbach," because in the end that was his biggest mistake
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    Old 02-05-2016, 05:15 PM   #813
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    Oh wow, can you imagine how pissed his lawyers were when he was arrested. They were about to get paid.
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    yes and no.



    one case has absolutely nothing to with the other. and his criminal attorneys should have seen that gold mine and went on a contingency scale.



    he was the idiot that didn't see his options and settled for a hilarious 400k

    The civil suit came before the criminal case for the murder. His civil case lawyers advised him to settle the suit after he was imprisoned in order to hire the best criminal lawyers he could get, because once the murder charges came he lost all credibility and leverage in the civil suit. He's not dumb for settling. That's my only point in this. I don't believe he's innocent.

    I didn't say the insurance companies and jurors and a million people were involved in a coverup. I said that the city/town he was suing couldn't pay the $36 million, so it's speculated the murder could've been placed on him to get the civil suit out of the way. Regardless of whether or not that's true, once he was arrested he had to settle because he couldn't afford a defense.
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    Old 02-06-2016, 07:17 AM   #815
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    contingency in a criminal case based on money received in a different case



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    Old 02-06-2016, 07:56 AM   #816
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    Murdering someone does the same thing.
    True! And I'm not saying he didn't. I'm not really convinced either way on that point.

    My point was simply that at the time he was charged in November 2005, guilty or innocent, the dude needed money. The charges against him gave the appearance of guilt to the point that sympathies swung against him and any settlement he may have received.
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    Old 02-06-2016, 12:13 PM   #817
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    the interview you've all been waiting for, Steven Avery's estranged sons

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    http://wbay.com/2016/02/06/steven-av...break-silence/
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    Old 02-10-2016, 01:48 PM   #818
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    Only on Ep. 7 so far, but... definitely some shady shit going on.
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    Old 02-10-2016, 02:06 PM   #819
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    Avery talking through his new lawyer on twitter

    Kathleen Zellner @ZellnerLaw
    Police reports: Only SA suspect but BIG RED FLAGS on others. Must have to do w/BIG GREEN DOLLARS. #MakingAMurderer pic.twitter.com/mrAqjI53Kd
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    Old 02-10-2016, 02:36 PM   #820
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    Avery talking through his new lawyer on twitter

    Kathleen Zellner @ZellnerLaw
    Police reports: Only SA suspect but BIG RED FLAGS on others. Must have to do w/BIG GREEN DOLLARS. #MakingAMurderer pic.twitter.com/mrAqjI53Kd
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    Assume he is referring to her ex-boyfriend as the obvious killer?
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    Old 02-10-2016, 02:37 PM   #821
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    You'd think he would work on making his handwriting neater. It's not like he doesn't have time to do so.
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    Old 02-10-2016, 02:44 PM   #822
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    You'd think he would work on making his handwriting neater. It's not like he doesn't have time to do so.
    Christ dude.
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    Old 02-10-2016, 03:27 PM   #823
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    Avery talking through his new lawyer on twitter

    Kathleen Zellner @ZellnerLaw
    Police reports: Only SA suspect but BIG RED FLAGS on others. Must have to do w/BIG GREEN DOLLARS. #MakingAMurderer pic.twitter.com/mrAqjI53Kd
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    Yeah?

    Yeah?
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    Old 02-10-2016, 03:27 PM   #824
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    Yeah?

    Yeah?
    Yeah. Yup.
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    Old 02-10-2016, 03:30 PM   #825
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    Yeah. Yup.
    I want to start parody Twitter accounts where the people in the documentary just say, "Yeah" back and forth.
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    Assume he is referring to her ex-boyfriend as the obvious killer?
    I have no idea who he's talking about, which is odd for how obvious it is.
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    Old 02-11-2016, 08:15 PM   #827
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    Kratz reminds me of a real-life Ned Flanders
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    Old 02-11-2016, 08:37 PM   #828
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    Only on Ep. 7 so far, but... definitely some shady shit going on.
    no, there's not.


    they're only showing you one side of the story. And when you see the other side it's glossed over so quickly it doesn't register. Or it's explained off in some full screen with omnibus music and cold lettering.



    like the fact that Brenden's defense team admits that Steven Avery did it; you're not there yet but you won't even catch it if you're not paying attention.
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    no, there's not.


    they're only showing you one side of the story. And when you see the other side it's glossed over so quickly it doesn't register. Or it's explained off in some full screen with omnibus music and cold lettering.


    like the fact that Brenden's defense team admits that Steven Avery did it; you're not there yet but you won't even catch it if you're not paying attention.
    Maybe. I did see this link on another forum:

    http://www.avclub.com/article/read-d...making--230224

    A lot of that stuff doesn't look good for Steven, just as tampering with the evidence bags and closing his residence off to the public for what - Eight days? - doesn't look good for the police.
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    Old 02-12-2016, 04:20 AM   #830
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    Maybe. I did see this link on another forum:

    http://www.avclub.com/article/read-d...making--230224

    A lot of that stuff doesn't look good for Steven, just as tampering with the evidence bags and closing his residence off to the public for what - Eight days? - doesn't look good for the police.
    list all the murder scenes opened to the public.
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    Old 02-12-2016, 04:39 AM   #831
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    Lizzie Bordens house?
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    Old 02-12-2016, 05:20 AM   #832
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    yeah .
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    no, there's not.


    they're only showing you one side of the story. And when you see the other side it's glossed over so quickly it doesn't register. Or it's explained off in some full screen with omnibus music and cold lettering.



    like the fact that Brenden's defense team admits that Steven Avery did it; you're not there yet but you won't even catch it if you're not paying attention.
    They're trying to put on the best argument for Brenden, though. I noticed that but didn't put a lot of stock into it; their only job is to put reasonable doubt into the mind of the jury as to whether Brenden did it. Saying Steven did it was only an attempt to further that doubt (obviously it didn't work).
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    Well, if somebody else's lawyers say he is guilty, he must be.
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    Old 02-12-2016, 05:34 AM   #835
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    My memory may not be correct, but wasn't Steven convicted at the time of Brenden's trial? In that case, the lawyers would just be saying that Steven was legally responsible for the murder because he'd been convicted already.
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    People are still talking about this?
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    People are still talking about this?
    Duh, justice.
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    list all the murder scenes opened to the public.
    sorry, didn't mean the entire public, just the people who had a right to be there. Was tired when I posted that last night... lol
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    Old 02-12-2016, 06:44 AM   #839
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    Are you referencing the family? Because I'm pretty sure when your property is the scene of a murder, you're not allowed there.
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    Old 02-12-2016, 06:50 AM   #840
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    Are you referencing the family? Because I'm pretty sure when your property is the scene of a murder, you're not allowed there.
    Nope. Only happened in this case, because of da framing.
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