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Originally Posted by DJGeneral
1. Yes, sales are down. No one is denying that, BUT with all of this huge promotion, they should be able to move 400,000 units. It is just how it is. Big sales weeks do still happen. Eminem sold 610K, Lil' Wayne sold over 1,000,000 units, U2 sold almost 450K...if the right promotion is in place and good songs, big weeks can still happen. Like I said, 375,000+ is a very good number, but a real success and something to really be happy about would be 400,000+. I don't really know how else to explain that to you.
2. The iTunes Pass cost $20. Almost double a digital album in many cases. Only the biggest fans bought this. Only 5 albums have ever sold over 100,000 units or more in a week digitally. There is no way DMB did that. 100%. They probably did about 20K at best.
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1. Yes, big sales can still happen. But the ones that will beat DMB this year are bands that have ALWAYS beaten DMB. All I'm saying is that you are pulling the 400,000 figure out of your ass and acting as if that is the industry benchmark for success of this album. So you, nor I, would know if the band will be really happy with 400,000 or if 375,000 far exceeded their expectations. 400,000 is a purely arbitrary figure that you, some random fan, is trying to pass off as the bench mark between success and failure. U2 has a much larger fan base and had MUCH larger promotions. For a small example, they were on 5 nights on Letterman. Each and everyone of those indivudal Letterman shows will attract a larger audience than the entire Fuse week of DMB promotion, combined. Also, there was no music video which means no "free promotion" on VH1 or MTV which also have significantly larger numbers of viewers than Fuse. I'm not saying there wasn't heavy promotion...but it was not as heavy as U2, or Coldplay or even Eminem that was everywhere the week of sales. DMB did a niche targeted promotion on Fuse and Hulu, a very nice interview on CBS Sunday Morning (where they did a great job of targeting the 45+ demographic), and a promo on Jimmy Kimmel which was good, but again fairly narrowly targeted, and the Today Show, which has a lot of eyeballs, but not neccesarily in their target audience.
Look, it's fine if in your head you think 400,000 is the benchmark. But that's not what you are doing...you are trying to tell the reader repeatedly that that is the definitive difference between success and failure (and you keep implying that everyone else agrees with you and understands you, when not a single person has weighed in on your thoughts. All I'm doing is setting the record straight that you just pulled an arbitrary number, without context as to what past history has been. Eminem's last album more than doubled first week sales of Stand Up....U2 always kills on the charts. Eminem lost 40% of first week sales for this album compared to last, if DMB lost that same 40% they would be at about 340,000 sales.
I predicted 400,000 sales. But if it's 375,000, that wouldn't surprise me and certainly would seem completely in line with the music industry today and relative expectations based on previous DMB albums and current other top sellers.
2. Why is it so hard for you to comprehend the difference between pre-sales and after release digital sales. Everytime you keep bringing it back to first week digital sales. But that has absolutely nothing to do with a pre-sale which is what the stat was based on.