Official Batman 3 Discussion

[Rodey]

I hear Ledger is coming back from the dead for this one and is going to win teh OscarZ again!

[DmBand801]

use bane as a villain!

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by Rodey

I hear Ledger is coming back from the dead for this one and is going to win teh OscarZ again!

He'd deserve it...again.

[thestand]

Michael C. Hall would be good. The thing about the Riddler is getting across the point on film that he is, without a doubt, no question about it, the most intelligent person that you will encounter in the movie. Ledger perfectly played the role of the guy that doesn't have sheer intelligence, but is so far outside the normal realm of thought that he can see patterns others can't, and that's why his portrayal was so good, while staying true to the comics. For The Riddler, if you're not going to go the cheesy Jim Carrey version (read: Nolan will stab himself in the throat before that happens), you have to go with someone who's so calculating and methodical and just absurdly intelligent, with a good dose of dark humor and sadism. So yeah, I like Michael C. Hall there.

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by thestand

Michael C. Hall would be good. The thing about the Riddler is getting across the point on film that he is, without a doubt, no question about it, the most intelligent person that you will encounter in the movie. Ledger perfectly played the role of the guy that doesn't have sheer intelligence, but is so far outside the normal realm of thought that he can see patterns others can't, and that's why his portrayal was so good, while staying true to the comics. For The Riddler, if you're not going to go the cheesy Jim Carrey version (read: Nolan will stab himself in the throat before that happens), you have to go with someone who's so calculating and methodical and just absurdly intelligent, with a good dose of dark humor and sadism. So yeah, I like Michael C. Hall there.

Spot on.

[turbo895]

Originally Posted by DmBand801

use bane as a villain!

barry bons?

[Spicy McHaggis]

Originally Posted by AlpineValley804

Guy Pearce came to mind for The Riddler.

Perfect. I like how you think Casey.

Any supporters on the Harley Quinn idea? What actress could work as a vicious, super sadistic hottie?

[turbo895]

Jessica Alba

[BotheDMBFan]

Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

Perfect. I like how you think Casey.

Any supporters on the Harley Quinn idea? What actress could work as a vicious, super sadistic hottie?

Harley Quinn CAN'T work. With no Joker, Harley Quinn is pointless. She is Joker's ragdoll. He beats the shit out of her, and hates her. But she keeps coming back for more.

Frankly, Riddler is too soon. You need to wait a while, because he's pretty much Joker minus the anarchy, and a little bit smarter.

[BotheDMBFan]

Originally Posted by thestand

Michael C. Hall would be good. The thing about the Riddler is getting across the point on film that he is, without a doubt, no question about it, the most intelligent person that you will encounter in the movie. Ledger perfectly played the role of the guy that doesn't have sheer intelligence, but is so far outside the normal realm of thought that he can see patterns others can't, and that's why his portrayal was so good, while staying true to the comics. For The Riddler, if you're not going to go the cheesy Jim Carrey version (read: Nolan will stab himself in the throat before that happens), you have to go with someone who's so calculating and methodical and just absurdly intelligent, with a good dose of dark humor and sadism. So yeah, I like Michael C. Hall there.

See, the thing is, Joker WAS highly intelligent. Not as smart as Riddler, but no one is.

And frankly, the only way to stop Riddler in this if they used him, is if he stopped himself. He doesn't care about destruction or anything of that sort, he just wants to find out who Batman is. Sadly, he can't, because that's the biggest riddle of them all to him, and then he'd have nothing to live for.

Riddler's actually kind of a pointless villain when you get down to it, even if he is amazing.

[BotheDMBFan]

A left field pick would be The Ventriloquist.

[DmBand801]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

A left field pick would be The Ventriloquist.

Scarface would be creepy as hell on the big screen

I think Nolan could do Mr. Freeze very well.

[turbo895]

Originally Posted by DmBand801

I think Nolan could do Mr. Freeze very well.

kay, lets start Arnold Schwarzenegger on kemo therapy again and get his old ass back in that freeze suit haha

[BotheDMBFan]

Nah. Freeze should be done by a fairly smaller man than Arnie.

[AlpineValley804]

I'm skeptical of anything to do with Mr. Freeze. I mean, I haven't read any of the comics, so excuse my lack of knowledge, but just the entire idea of the character screams camp to me.

Then again, I really only have Batman & Robin to go off of, so there's pretty strong bias working against him.

[BotheDMBFan]

Yeah, Freeze is AWESOME as a villain, Batman and Robin just sucked...aside from Clooney, who is infallible.

[bradshaw06]

imo, freeze might be alittle too out there... maybe someone like black mask?

[turbo895]

or fire fly

[DmBand801]

Freeze could be perfect, if Nolan wrote him to be like this:

Like most Batman villains, Mr. Freeze plans his crimes about a specific theme; in his case, ice and cold.[1] In darker incarnations of the Batman mythos, Mr. Freeze's obsession with ice stems from personal tragedy, and his crimes are inspired by his desire to make the rest of the world as miserable as he is.[12] He freezes areas around him using special weapons and equipment, most notably a handheld "cold gun". His refrigeration suit grants him superhuman strength and durability, making him a powerful villain in Batman's rogues gallery.

[BotheDMBFan]

I still think Ventriloquist would be the best. He doesn't need A LOT of screen time, and he wouldn't because i assume the "main" villain will be Two Face.

[DmBand801]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

I still think Ventriloquist would be the best. He doesn't need A LOT of screen time, and he wouldn't because i assume the "main" villain will be Two Face.

Two-Face is dead.

Nolan told Eckhart that, and the script said he broke his neck on the fall.

[BotheDMBFan]

Originally Posted by DmBand801

Two-Face is dead.

Nolan told Eckhart that, and the script said he broke his neck on the fall.

Hmmmm, I thought Eckhart was signed on to do one more.

Oh well, I still want the ventriloquist.

[DmBand801]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

Hmmmm, I thought Eckhart was signed on to do one more.

Oh well, I still want the ventriloquist.

I remember reading an interview sometime after the movie came out--it essentially said that Eckhart asked Nolan if he was dead, and Nolan said yes.

I'd love for the ventriloquist to make an appearance too

[BotheDMBFan]

That could be to throw people off though. I just find it odd that they'd kill off arguably the biggest villain in the series, after he was a villain for only 40 minutes.

[AlpineValley804]

I think Two-Face is dead, but I do agree with Bo. It's silly to kill off one of the biggest villains in Batman so soon.

[proppenator]

Michael Emerson should play the joker

[BotheDMBFan]

They shouldn't bring the Joker back, unless it's to have him in a Lecter like role to try and foil Riddler, if they so choose to pick him.

The Joker, frankly, has served his purpose and would be fairly pointless to bring him back even if Ledger were still alive. Joker helped make Gotham able to hate Batman. You can only spead so much "anarchy." Joker ruined the mob he hated so much, and frankly, he has nothing left to go off of. Except, he fucking HATES Riddler.

But as I said before, Riddler, while a cool villain, is also ungodly pointless. He doesn't want control of Gotham, he just wants to solve puzzles. He's kinda like the doctor in Life is Beautiful, except he probably would have saved Guido.

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by proppenator

Michael Emerson should play the joker

I love Michael Emerson but as far as Batman 3 goes, The Joker should only be mentioned in reference to his incarceration at Arkham Asylum.

[DmBand801]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

That could be to throw people off though. I just find it odd that they'd kill off arguably the biggest villain in the series, after he was a villain for only 40 minutes.

Originally Posted by AlpineValley804

I think Two-Face is dead, but I do agree with Bo. It's silly to kill off one of the biggest villains in Batman so soon.

Two-Face served his purpose too if you think about it.

He took down Maroni, and got revenge on the crooked cops in Gordon's unit.

They could have kept him around to continue fighting the mob, but he already took down Maroni while Joker killed the Russian mob leader...

[BotheDMBFan]

I think someone brought up Firefly, which could be very interesting.

Shit, you could have all of the villains that really couldn't be THE lead villain in a 2 1/2 hour movie, but a bunch of them together could be cool.