Deluxe re-mastered reissues (Blu-ray/vinyl/etc) of the studio albums? POLL

[dobyblue]

Multiple Choice Poll – please vote for whichever options you’re interested in.

With a new decade rapidly approaching, it's only a matter of time before the DMB camp looks into reissues of the studio albums. I’d like to see Ants opinions on whether they’d be interested in any of these scenarios.

1) Blu-ray+CD Deluxe Edition reissues of each album featuring:

• Entire album remastered from the original master tapes presented in high resolution 24/96 5.1 multi-channel and 24/96 2.0 stereo PCM.
• Each album's videos presented in high definition with newly remastered audio in high resolution 24/96 5.1 multi-channel and 24/96 2.0 stereo PCM.
• Interviews from the relevant period in 1080p where elements allow, 480i otherwise
• Live performances from the relevant period in 1080p where elements allow, 480i otherwise
• B-sides and live cuts from the singles presented in high resolution 24/96 2.0 stereo PCM
• New interviews about the album, time period, songs, etc. in 1080p high definition
• CD "digital copy" of the newly remastered stereo tracks

2) DVD+CD Deluxe Edition reissues of each album featuring:

• Entire album remastered from the original master tapes presented in 24/48 5.1 Dolby Digital (lossy) and 24/48 2.0 stereo PCM.
• Each album's videos presented in 480i standard definition with newly remastered audio presented in 24/48 5.1 Dolby Digital (lossy) and 24/48 2.0 stereo PCM.
• Interviews from the relevant period in 480i
• Live performances from the relevant period in 480i standard definition
• B-sides and live cuts from the singles presented in 24/48 2.0 stereo PCM
• New interviews about the album, time period, songs, etc. in 480i standard definition
• CD "digital copy" of the newly remastered stereo tracks

3) 2CD Deluxe Edition reissues of each album featuring

• Entire album remastered from the original master tapes
• 2nd CD including B-sides and live cuts from the singles

4) Deluxe 180g 2LP vinyl reissues featuring:

• Entire album remastered from the original master tapes presented over 4 sides of virgin 180g vinyl pressed at the Pallas plant in Germany.

Thanks for voting!

[BrahmaBull]

I voted for option 1 and 4. I have had enough of DVD/CD releases, a 2CD deluxe edition almost got a vote. I didn't bother because if you are going to re-release anything it should be on the latest and greatest technology. Blu-ray provides so much potential for DMB releases (and any other artist) and they keep shoving shit like the EUROPE DVD box set down our throat. Gimme a break.

If I want to watch DVD quality concerts I already own:
-Listener Supported
-Live at the Gorge
-Folsom Field
-Central Park
-Piedmont Park

Now they want me to buy this Europe DVD? For what? Some new Carter cam? This community has millions of hours of audio and video from official releases to fan shot stuff. What is the point of me buying a Europe DVD? When the band officially releases something it should be above and beyond what they allow us to have for free. Not *slightly* better.

Sorry Burkey, to run off on a tangent on a *slightly* unrelated topic but I thought it fit here.

[dobyblue]

These results will be passed on for consideration also to RLM.
Even if it's another 2 years before these start coming out, if they're done right then it will be well worth it.

Pearl Jam did such a good job with the Super Deluxe Box Set of "Ten" even though it didn't have surround mixes, it would be awesome to have something similar for each of DMB's albums as the 20th anniversary of the band comes upon us.

[cry_minarets458]

Mostly the vinyl.. Want it ALL in vinyl

But, I' voted for all of them haha

[Beebz]

One and four, without question. Time to step up to quality, RLM. If any band is suited for discrete, clear sound and stunning visuals, its DMB.

[brockboi]

Great Poll. I picked 1, 2, and 4. #1 and 4 for the obvious reasons but #2 because I always like having the little extras a DVD has to offer if they are done properly. Dobyblue mentioned some such as album videos, interviews, live performances and b-sides. All worth the purchase of a DVD IMO.

[americanemu25]

i dont see the point of blu-ray for a concert...concerts have music....now if it was diehard or something then I could understand cuz the explosions would look cool in blu-ray....

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by americanemu25

i dont see the point of blu-ray for a concert...concerts have music....now if it was diehard or something then I could understand cuz the explosions would look cool in blu-ray....

Because the audio on Blu-ray is capable of over 6 times better fidelity than a CD per channel and with multi-channel audio it's capable of lossless high resolution which is over 50 times better than DVD for surround.

It's exactly why Blu-ray is good for a concert, because concerts have music!

Any surround track on a DVD is lossy, like .mp3's.

Dolby Digital on DVD is 448 Kbps maximum (5.1), that's 75 Kbps per channel.
On Blu-ray you can have 27,648 Kbps maximum (5.1) which is 4,608 Kbps per channel. You can also have 7.1 surround sound with 24/96 which is 2,304 Kbps per channel.

The extra fidelity is also what makes movies on Blu-ray great...finally you're able to watch movies with studio master quality audio, you don't even get that at the cinema.

[brockboi]

Originally Posted by americanemu25

i dont see the point of blu-ray for a concert...concerts have music....now if it was diehard or something then I could understand cuz the explosions would look cool in blu-ray....

i can't wait for doby's response on this!

i guess he beat me!

[mismetti]

I'd take SACD or DVD-audio as well

[Taylor/Martin]

My favorite thing out of these would be #4. I'd love to have all of the albums on vinyl, especially Busted Stuff.

[americanemu25]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Because the audio on Blu-ray is capable of over 6 times better fidelity than a CD per channel and with multi-channel audio it's capable of lossless high resolution which is over 50 times better than DVD for surround.

It's exactly why Blu-ray is good for a concert, because concerts have music!

Any surround track on a DVD is lossy, like .mp3's.

Dolby Digital on DVD is 448 Kbps maximum (5.1), that's 75 Kbps per channel.
On Blu-ray you can have 27,648 Kbps maximum (5.1) which is 4,608 Kbps per channel. You can also have 7.1 surround sound with 24/96 which is 2,304 Kbps per channel.

The extra fidelity is also what makes movies on Blu-ray great...finally you're able to watch movies with studio master quality audio, you don't even get that at the cinema.

neato!

/not sarcasm

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by mismetti

I'd take SACD or DVD-audio as well

Yeah I would love SACD deluxe issues, but I know that's extremely unlikely so I didn't include them.

My favourite surround recordings mostly seem to come from the SACD format, although I do love the Seal and REM DVD-A releases.

[rickyh24]

Vinyl's please.

[hmich176]

I am interested in all options, except for option 5. I'm not interested in being not interested.

[dobyblue]

I see Warner Bros has changed from pressing their vinyls at RTI in California to Pallas in Germany, the best pressing plant on the planet.

The upcoming Dec 15th reissue of Dire Straits debut LP is being done at Pallas, remastered from the original master tapes and cut by Bernie Grundman. Jeff Bowers is running the vinyl division of Warner right now and doing a fantastic job....he also is part-owner of ORG who just did the amazing Nirvana all-analog reissues.

I would LOVE to see the DMB catalogue get this kind of treatment. Having all the DMB albums on vinyl would be soooooooooooooooo exciting.

[trautwein.m]

^^^i would start calling those work from home signs if that were true so i could stay home and listen to them all day

[DJGeneral]

I am down for 2 CD sets/DVDs. I don't care about vinyl period. And I don't care for blu-ray for the time being.

[Icky]

not interested. they have enough of my money.

[TheGameHHH]

just noticed this as i'm listening to Big Whiskey on Vinyl.......obviously i'm voting vinyl

[Sweet Chicken]

It should be against the law to vote for anything other than 1 and 4.

[TBolts712]

1, 3, and 4 for me. I agree with everyone else on 1 and 4. 3 has b-sides and the single/promo songs on it? Count me in!

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by TBolts712

1, 3, and 4 for me. I agree with everyone else on 1 and 4. 3 has b-sides and the single/promo songs on it? Count me in!

1 and 2 also have the b-sides and singles cuts on them...in high resolution 24-bit PCM where applicable.

[jharries]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yeah I would love SACD deluxe issues, but I know that's extremely unlikely so I didn't include them.

My favourite surround recordings mostly seem to come from the SACD format, although I do love the Seal and REM DVD-A releases.

Like Genesis did with their SACD boxed sets. Included everything on SACD and also lots of cool DVD live features with it, previously unreleased.

[Benny003]

If they released the albums in blu-ray just remastered from the original master tapes presented in high resolution 24/96 5.1 multi-channel and 24/96 2.0 stereo PCM and nothing else, I would be extremely pleased. Anything more than that would be bonus, but they really need to take advantage of the high resolution audio that bly-ray is capable of. CD audio is just so underwhelming these days.

[fluid]

Originally Posted by Benny003

If they released the albums in blu-ray just remastered from the original master tapes presented in high resolution 24/96 5.1 multi-channel and 24/96 2.0 stereo PCM and nothing else, I would be extremely pleased. Anything more than that would be bonus, but they really need to take advantage of the high resolution audio that bly-ray is capable of. CD audio is just so underwhelming these days.

Yes I would also be thrilled with just the audio released in hd surround on bluray! Vinyl would also be killer.

All that other bonus stuff listed would thrill me to pieces, but the audio is the most important.

[mmccoy173]

So... what's so special about vinyl? Isn't that what the DJ's use? Who actually has a vinyl player?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by mmccoy173

So... what's so special about vinyl? Isn't that what the DJ's use?

It isn't limited to 16-bit/44.1kHz digital like CD is.
It's capable of more correctly capturing the sonics of an analog tape or high resolution 24-bit/192kHz digital source, given that it is an analog medium.

Who actually has a vinyl player?

Judging by the votes, you can figure that one out yourself...but if you want some more info...

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ke-a-comeback/
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/musi...t-in-2009.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...702369,00.html

If you want higher fidelity and you don't mind investing some money into your playback system, the vinyl experience is FAR more enjoyable than CD not to mention all the artwork looks so much better at 12"x12"...plus the whole enjoyment of cuing up a record...it's a more personal experience.

But at the heart of it all is the sonics...and vinyl is simply better than CD.

[TBolts712]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

1 and 2 also have the b-sides and singles cuts on them...in high resolution 24-bit PCM where applicable.

Huh. Reading skill fail.

[Taylor/Martin]

Originally Posted by mmccoy173

So... what's so special about vinyl? Isn't that what the DJ's use? Who actually has a vinyl player?

I do. I have a nice collection of vinyls from many of my favorite bands over the years. I love listening to vinyl because the sound is much better.