AMP: Grey Street

[blusi]

Just let you know, that I learnt the complete bassline for Grey Street today (including 3rd verse ). Absolutly love the chorus part, amazing. Looking forward to recording this.

[blusi]

So, finally (after 4 hours of recording and 1 hour mixing), here you go for Grey Street incl. Bass and Tenor/Soprano Sax:

File 1:
File Name: grey street (AG D B TS SS).mp3
File Size: 5.8 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fw9fka

File 2:
File Name: grey street (B).mp3
File Size: 5.8 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/i12201

File 3:
File Name: grey street (SS).mp3
File Size: 5.8 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/wuw0bp

File 4:
File Name: grey street (TS).mp3
File Size: 5.8 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9qmhfo

[blusi]

The tenor Sax Solo should be louder.

[whiteysax]

I'll lay down the trumpet harmonies on alto tomorrow

[whiteysax]

have you guys been sending all files as mp3s? Seems counterproductive to me since I don't know any programs that open tracks to mix in mp3 format. I'll have to convert to WAV to use anyway. It'll work though so I'll have this done tomorrow

[foose4string]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

have you guys been sending all files as mp3s? Seems counterproductive to me since I don't know any programs that open tracks to mix in mp3 format. I'll have to convert to WAV to use anyway. It'll work though so I'll have this done tomorrow

Audacity will import and open MP3 tracks. What recording software do you use? WAV is obviously better.

[spoot388]

awesome blusi! i'll give it a listen in a little bit.

Originally Posted by whiteysax

have you guys been sending all files as mp3s? Seems counterproductive to me since I don't know any programs that open tracks to mix in mp3 format. I'll have to convert to WAV to use anyway. It'll work though so I'll have this done tomorrow

we've been using mp3 as our backing track file because its easier to work with. that file isn't the final mix. we have every instrument track saved as wav and will mix those for the final mix. the mp3 is just so whoever still has to lay down their instrument has an easy file to play with. why waste the time downloading what could be a 100mb file just to listen to it when playing your part. the mp3 does the same job and downloads in 5 minutes.

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by foose4string

Audacity will import and open MP3 tracks. What recording software do you use? WAV is obviously better.

I use protools

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by spoot388

awesome blusi! i'll give it a listen in a little bit.






we've been using mp3 as our backing track file because its easier to work with. that file isn't the final mix. we have every instrument track saved as wav and will mix those for the final mix. the mp3 is just so whoever still has to lay down their instrument has an easy file to play with. why waste the time downloading what could be a 100mb file just to listen to it when playing your part. the mp3 does the same job and downloads in 5 minutes.

Makes sense... So when I finish, where do i send the wav?

[spoot388]

actually, blusi, where are the wav files for your parts? can you upload them please so we have them for when we do the final mix?

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

Makes sense... So when I finish, where do i send the wav?

just upload everything into this thread. we'll handle it from there.

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by spoot388

just upload everything into this thread. we'll handle it from there.

Cool. So the form is the normal old school 3rd verse... Not like the lillywhite session with the double chorus? Also, the soprano line over the second chorus isn't quite right and the tenor line is missing in the 3rd verse. There's also random sax octave doubling between the tenor and soprano. Were we going for a 3 horn section sound?

[blusi]

Originally Posted by spoot388

actually, blusi, where are the wav files for your parts? can you upload them please so we have them for when we do the final mix?

Is everything mp3? Alright, I give my friend a call.

[blusi]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

Cool. So the form is the normal old school 3rd verse... Not like the lillywhite session with the double chorus? Also, the soprano line over the second chorus isn't quite right and the tenor line is missing in the 3rd verse. There's also random sax octave doubling between the tenor and soprano. Were we going for a 3 horn section sound?

The soprano line works this way I think. Leroi also just improvised over it. Maybe you think about the beginning of the chorus part. I think it's okay.

Are yure the tenor line is missing? I have to check it out. I just add the Soprano to the alto part in the beginning and in the end. We can use it or take it away, if you want to...

[blusi]

Should be up in a min...

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

Cool. So the form is the normal old school 3rd verse... Not like the lillywhite session with the double chorus? Also, the soprano line over the second chorus isn't quite right and the tenor line is missing in the 3rd verse. There's also random sax octave doubling between the tenor and soprano. Were we going for a 3 horn section sound?

i honestly don't know what "normal" is for this song. what i DO know is that our version is based off LT16. that has a double chorus at the end before the sax solo, but we cut the 2nd chorus out.

as for the horn lines, u and blusi need to figure out what happens where and when. i have no idea about playing instruments

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by blusi

The soprano line works this way I think. Leroi also just improvised over it. Maybe you think about the beginning of the chorus part. I think it's okay.

Are yure the tenor line is missing? I have to check it out. I just add the Soprano to the alto part in the beginning and in the end. We can use it or take it away, if you want to...

That soprano line hasn't been improvised since before the lillywhite sessions were leaked. It's a set 8 bar phrase that Roi used to take some liberties with but was always the same. After they cut the 3rd verse Roi would improvise over the last half of the double chorus after the horn line but in the 3 verse version the double chorus (last one before the jam) happens after he picks the tenor back up. He used to solo over the last half of THAT double chorus on tenor.
And yes, there is no sax line during the 3rd verse on this recording... It should be the normal G#-E-F#-G# line over the last half before the final double chorus.

[blusi]

Originally Posted by blusi

The soprano line works this way I think. Leroi also just improvised over it. Maybe you think about the beginning of the chorus part. I think it's okay.

Are yure the tenor line is missing? I have to check it out. I just add the Soprano to the alto part in the beginning and in the end. We can use it or take it away, if you want to...

Ah you're right...the tenor part is missing. We should be able to copy it from another part of the song. If that doesn't work, I'll record it later.

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by spoot388

i honestly don't know what "normal" is for this song. what i DO know is that our version is based off LT16. that has a double chorus at the end before the sax solo, but we cut the 2nd chorus out.

as for the horn lines, u and blusi need to figure out what happens where and when. i have no idea about playing instruments

Your version follows the standard way they performed it in 2002. You do the double chorus, but you cut the final EXTRA chorus that is found on the lillywhite recording. Check out this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o1pptRjSiY
That's the form you've recorded.

[whiteysax]

Just realized... It's the same form as the Busted Stuff recording.
And the soprano line should be the same as it's heard on the Busted Stuff recording (atnthe 2:01 mark) which is the same as the lillywhite recording(at the 1:56 mark)

[whiteysax]

I can record the missing parts tomorrow if necessary

[blusi]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

That soprano line hasn't been improvised since before the lillywhite sessions were leaked. It's a set 8 bar phrase that Roi used to take some liberties with but was always the same. After they cut the 3rd verse Roi would improvise over the last half of the double chorus after the horn line but in the 3 verse version the double chorus (last one before the jam) happens after he picks the tenor back up. He used to solo over the last half of THAT double chorus on tenor.
And yes, there is no sax line during the 3rd verse on this recording... It should be the normal G#-E-F#-G# line over the last half before the final double chorus.

Right. But is it a big thing to change it a bit? I didn't record the "side man" chorus part on the tenor, because I need the lyrics to play around them to get inspired.

[blusi]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

I can record the missing parts tomorrow if necessary

Yeah, I leave it to you. Can't wait to hear it from you. Looking forward to your solo.

[blusi]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

Just realized... It's the same form as the Busted Stuff recording.
And the soprano line should be the same as it's heard on the Busted Stuff recording (atnthe 2:01 mark) which is the same as the lillywhite recording(at the 1:56 mark)

It's just "a little bit" different. I like it this way.

Happy that no one said yet a bad thing about the bass stuff.

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by blusi

Right. But is it a big thing to change it a bit? I didn't record the "side man" chorus part on the tenor, because I need the lyrics to play around them to get inspired.

Wouldn't be a huge thing if you were playing alone, but I planned on recording trumpet harmonies which includes that line which is why they started playing it the same way every performance... A least the first 4 bars of it.

[blusi]

Wave this time:


File 1:
File Name: grey street (B).wav
File Size: 69 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8alykm

File 2:
File Name: grey street (SS).wav
File Size: 69.4 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/35fkkj

File 3:
File Name: grey street (TS).wav
File Size: 69.2 MB
Download Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/307f50

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by blusi

It's just "a little bit" different. I like it this way.

Happy that no one said yet a bad thing about the bass stuff.

obviously the horn stuff is the first stuff I hear just cause i've studied it for so long. What I heard of the bass sounds fine. A lot gets lost in the mp3 mix I think

[blusi]

Originally Posted by whiteysax

Wouldn't be a huge thing if you were playing alone, but I planned on recording trumpet harmonies which includes that line which is why they started playing it the same way every performance... A least the first 4 bars of it.

Allright, I see...maybe you played it just like me? Same notes, but a bit diff. rhythm. Trumpet harmonies would be sweet.

[whiteysax]

Originally Posted by blusi

Yeah, I leave it to you. Can't wait to hear it from you. Looking forward to your solo.

I'll record my stuff and we'll see where we're at

[whiteysax]

Spoot.... I assume you just want a raw wav recording with no effects or anything. I have some preset effects i usually throw on my horns to wet them down... Mostly some EQ and reverb. Should I leave that off or include that on the wav?