**Official Pine Knob (DTE) 7.10.2012 Thread**

[dmb2632]

I'd like a Warehouse. I realize DTE has gotten it for the past few tours, but I haven't been here since '06 and still haven't had it yet.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by too69short

I am a little worried about the heavy rotation of new songs, otherwise I am with you!

Hey if they are good I don't care.

Originally Posted by grizabella

Dreaming Tree or Seek Up would be fantastic!!!

Seek Up for sure. Only heard it once. And we got screwed out of it in 07 because of that storm.

Originally Posted by dmb2632

I'd like a Warehouse. I realize DTE has gotten it for the past few tours, but I haven't been here since '06 and still haven't had it yet.

yeah I think we got it like 3 years in a row before not having it in 10.

[TMoore4075]

This was awesome in 2010

http://youtu.be/lbjs4UF5hZs

[MW104]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

This was awesome in 2010

http://youtu.be/lbjs4UF5hZs

:thum bsup

[dmb2632]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

This was awesome in 2010

http://youtu.be/lbjs4UF5hZs

It's cool that they played it, and I hate to be a Debbie Downer -- but it really pisses me off that Dave is yet again, not playing his guitar. I realize it's an awkward tuning to have to change to midset (though he could have ask one of the crew to do it form him a song or so early), but it's not a hard song to play at all.

Ever since Tim joined in '08, he not only over-powered everything with muddy and heavy distortion like a fucking metal band (which he eventually, and thank God, toned down a bit), but now he's doubling Dave's parts half of the time so he doesn't have to play them. Tim is incredible musician, I just think it's bullshit that Dave's guitar has been the hardest instrument to hear for the last four years, especially given the intricacies of some of his riffs. It would sound so much better on a lot of the songs if Tim would just grab his acoustic guitar -- so much cleaner. He's starting to become to me what Butch became (with his excessive organ usage) to others. /rant

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by dmb2632

It's cool that they played it, and I hate to be a Debbie Downer -- but it really pisses me off that Dave is yet again, not playing his guitar. I realize it's an awkward tuning to have to change to midset (though he could have ask one of the crew to do it form him a song or so early), but it's not a hard song to play at all.

Ever since Tim joined in '08, he not only over-powered everything with muddy and heavy distortion like a fucking metal band (which he eventually, and thank God, toned down a bit), but now he's doubling Dave's parts half of the time so he doesn't have to play them. Tim is incredible musician, I just think it's bullshit that Dave's guitar has been the hardest instrument to hear for the last four years, especially given the intricacies of some of his riffs. It would sound so much better on a lot of the songs if Tim would just grab his acoustic guitar -- so much cleaner. He's starting to become to me what Butch became (with his excessive organ usage) to others. /rant

No I get it. When I saw that Dave wasn't actually playing I was kinda disappointed. Was still psyched to hear it. Was also cool they added it. I'm not sure about the acoustic guitar they just need to balance him and Dave out a bit.

[g_strange]

Originally Posted by RJJohnson82DMB

No action in this thread. What is everyone's top song they would like to see at DTE this year?

The Stone, for me.

Halloween - Don't think Michigan has ever gotten it. I am thinking about making a sign that calls that out.

[Cobo]

Originally Posted by g_strange

Halloween - Don't think Michigan has ever gotten it. I am thinking about making a sign that calls that out.

You're right, Michigan has never gotten a Halloween. Tim, that Busted STuff video is great. That's a tune I was genuinely suprised to hear. I was expecting the standard Bombtower for the encore but this song injected a nice breath of fresh air into the show.

But yes, I miss Dave's guitar on it, too.

[gravedigger13]

Got tickets on the lawn because my wife and I are taking two friends who have never been, but they've always wanted to go. I've warned them that it might not be what they expect. together

[gravedigger13]

Originally Posted by grizabella

Dreaming Tree or Seek Up would be fantastic!!!

To this day, I'm still disappointed they had to skip Seek Up in 2008 (?) because of the storm.

I wonder if I'll ever see it live.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by gravedigger13

To this day, I'm still disappointed they had to skip Seek Up in 2008 (?) because of the storm.

I wonder if I'll ever see it live.

Yeah 07. Ahh "Rain Delay." I've only heard it once and that was 7 years ago.

[too69short]

How did everyone do on seats? I can never seem to get all that close at DTE, even for a '98 membership...Got LT row H and row K

[MW104]

Originally Posted by too69short

How did everyone do on seats? I can never seem to get all that close at DTE, even for a '98 membership...Got LT row H and row K

That's with a '98 membership? wow. I finally broke into the single letters.. Y. I was slow... '06 join

[too69short]

Originally Posted by MW104

That's with a '98 membership? wow. I finally broke into the single letters.. Y. I was slow... '06 join

Yea I dunno why I can't do well at DTE...
At least I am in the door and not on the lawn

[AllifromOhio]

RTC6 Row EE.

[RJJohnson82DMB]

LT2, row I. Not quite as good as 2010 for me, but not complaining at all. Thank you Warehouse.

[too69short]

Originally Posted by RJJohnson82DMB

LT2, row I. Not quite as good as 2010 for me, but not complaining at all. Thank you Warehouse.

Sounds like we are pretty close to each other, I feel like that happened before.

[TMoore4075]

Since my friend is getting mine my brother in-law gets mine and they are RTC Row S. About where they were in 2010 but those were RT and not RTC. So imo, better. That's with a Feb 02 account. Sounds like a lot of the larger venues people are getting hurt who have seniority.

Not sure where I'm sitting yet.

[too69short]

looking back through ticket stubs, I have gone from Row D to row H, moving from RT to LTC. Must be the VIPs or the season ticket holders at DTE (economy is picking up for some companies to purchase these thinsg again)

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by too69short

looking back through ticket stubs, I have gone from Row D to row H, moving from RT to LTC. Must be the VIPs or the season ticket holders at DTE (economy is picking up for some companies to purchase these thinsg again)

I went from row GG to now row S. Mine last year were row Q. So they had got better and now have stayed about the same.

[dmb2632]

Originally Posted by too69short

How did everyone do on seats? I can never seem to get all that close at DTE, even for a '98 membership...Got LT row H and row K

I got RTC Row SS 50-something through Livenation.

[dmb2632]

Originally Posted by gravedigger13

Got tickets on the lawn because my wife and I are taking two friends who have never been, but they've always wanted to go. I've warned them that it might not be what they expect. together

I'm not sure if you're saying the performance or the lawn won't be what they expect, but in my previous experience, DTE has great sound and a reasonable view at even the back of the lawn. I honestly think DTE is one of the better lawns out of most of the venues, to be honest.

Alpine's for example, is garbage -- if you're in the lawn and not near the front of it, you can't hear a thing. Of course, pavilion will likely always trump the lawn (this is my first year under pavilion at DTE), but DTE's lawn is pretty pleasant in my opinion.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by dmb2632

I'm not sure if you're saying the performance or the lawn won't be what they expect, but in my previous experience, DTE has great sound and a reasonable view at even the back of the lawn. I honestly think DTE is one of the better lawns out of most of the venues, to be honest.

Alpine's for example, is garbage -- if you're in the lawn and not near the front of it, you can't hear a thing. Of course, pavilion will likely always trump the lawn (this is my first year under pavilion at DTE), but DTE's lawn is pretty pleasant in my opinion.

The sound and view is pretty good there. Never been for DMB so I can't imagine the frat guys and under age teens getting trashed but been there plenty of times for other concerts and yeah the back is still great. Saw Aerosmith on the back of the lawn in 01.

[Cobo]

Anyone going to see the boss next Thursday? I'm so pumped!

[ComeNDnceWithMe]

Anyone get good Premium Seats?

[freezedried74]

LT3 Row P here. Warehouse member since 2001.

[TMoore4075]

So David Gray at Meadowbrook? OAR at Meadowbrook? If I have to pick one it's David Gray. Never seen him and want to.

[TMoore4075]

Got my ticket to David Gray. Going solo but that's fine.

[TMoore4075]

And went and got OAR tickets too. June 28th-July 21st I've got David Gray, DMB and then OAR. Can't wait!

[too69short]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

And went and got OAR tickets too. June 28th-July 21st I've got David Gray, DMB and then OAR. Can't wait!

Looked for OAR tix this morning, pulled row L on first attempt, figured I would skip it. I used to easily pull first 3 rows for them at Meadowbrook now with the three levels of VIP can't get anything close.

It's too bad, I love going to the shows, however only really love being upfront.