dave's weaknesses and strengths on guitar?

[Austin2641]

Just want to hear everyone's opinion

[crashintonickdm]

Strength: playing and singing at the same time

Weakness: laziness these days with Tim backing him

[chemcaj]

Biggest strength by far is his rhythm guitar playing. He puts slides and some hammer ons into the structure of the chords to create some great grooves. Some folks consider the fact that he really does not "solo" with single notes and leads a weakness. That "skill" is something he has chosen not to pursue/develop.

In an interview for Q television in Canada he said something to the effect that he has no rippin' licks and that is not my job anyway. That IMHO is also a strength. He knows his role within the sound of the band and does not try to be something he is not.

I agree about his "weakness" these days in that he does not play sometimes when Tim is onstage. I'd like to hear the acoustic more in the stage mix than I do in some shows.

I suppose we can view that as laziness, or maybe he just can't hear anything over the volume of Tim's electric guitar.

All in all he has his own unique style of playing guitar and he is able to sing quite well while doing so. Dave is a unique and talented artist.

[jimmything014]

I think along with his rhythm, his creativity is his biggest strength (or used to be at least). He has written some of the coolest, intricate, and creative acoustic riffs ive ever heard.

His weakness to me is the fact that it seems he has lost that creativity either through getting older, or just being lazy. Gaucho is the only song so far that gives me reason to believe he may still have some drive or creativity left in him

[HTils08]

strengths: muting strings, intricate single-note rhythm lines (think billies, wwys, smts, stone, recently), playing and singing (PM and stone are ridiculous)

weaknesses: not much variation playing the same song (I'm amazed at how he can play the same riff for a whole song sounding exactly the same, its a skill, but change it up), not creative at all on covers (talking guitar chops, not vocals or arrangements)

Originally Posted by jimmything014

His weakness to me is the fact that it seems he has lost that creativity either through getting older, or just being lazy. Gaucho is the only song so far that gives me reason to believe he may still have some drive or creativity left in him

we gotta do much more than believe...

[DMBCardinal]

Originally Posted by HTils08

strengths: muting strings, intricate single-note rhythm lines (think billies, wwys, smts, stone, recently), playing and singing (PM and stone are ridiculous)

weaknesses: not much variation playing the same song (I'm amazed at how he can play the same riff for a whole song sounding exactly the same, its a skill, but change it up), not creative at all on covers (talking guitar chops, not vocals or arrangements)



we gotta do much more than believe...

This thread is about guitar work...

[wizkid983]

I just played captain on guitar. The fact that someone can write a song with that much of a stretch is pretty phenomenal. It HURTS to play that song. I could barely make it through one play, never mind the multiple takes it must have taken to record on TWO albums.

[SpotlightEyes]

Originally Posted by wizkid983

I just played captain on guitar. The fact that someone can write a song with that much of a stretch is pretty phenomenal. It HURTS to play that song. I could barely make it through one play, never mind the multiple takes it must have taken to record on TWO albums.

Play it for a couple years and it won't hurt at all when you play it.

Dave was playing it for a long time before Lillywhite sessions.

[Musicology200]

Strength: Rhythm

Weakness: Soloing

[ToySoldier#34]

Strength: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpq0BWQP3E

Weakness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sq2z9DYqTE

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Strength: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpq0BWQP3E

Weakness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sq2z9DYqTE

weakness as in not doing this anymore?

if so, i agree.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

weakness as in not doing this anymore?

if so, i agree.

Haha he isn't very good at soloing but certainly does have his own style, I would love for him to do this more and go away from scatting sexy mf shakin' that ass. I think we can agree on his strength being the ability to sing over complicated and syncopated riffs that combine single notes and chords and make it all work, not to mention how he ever came up with half of the riffs he has.

[jakesomedevil41]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Strength: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpq0BWQP3E

Weakness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sq2z9DYqTE

that's an awesome weakness!!!

i wish this was my weakness when it comes to playing guitar.





actually, i'm not real sure what you're trying to say with this post.

[BAHHHTIWaC]

Originally Posted by HTils08

weaknesses: not much variation playing the same song (I'm amazed at how he can play the same riff for a whole song sounding exactly the same, its a skill, but change it up), not creative at all on covers (talking guitar chops, not vocals or arrangements)

I don't understand at all what you've listed as weakness

[Dannyyankou]

Weakness: being a little lazy in songs like Seven

Strengths: Singing, playing guitar, and dancing at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_c961r5oU

[tball123]

I really like that dave "solo" on jimi. It's strange, but it works.

[theideaofyou10]

strength: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NffmP...eature=related

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by jakesomedevil41

that's an awesome weakness!!!

i wish this was my weakness when it comes to playing guitar.





actually, i'm not real sure what you're trying to say with this post.

I'm just saying his weakness, which he has admitted, is not having any crazy soloing ability which the video I posted shows. Yes that is funky and creative, sounds a lot better when he starts playing chords in key, but he knows he is no Tim Reynolds. Keep in mind that calling the soloing ability a weakness doesn't mean I think he sucks at it. His strength is his ability to come up with very creative riffs / chord progressions / rhythms. This is slightly off topic but I've always wondered how much help Dave had from Tim on coming up with songs like Satellite (including the intro), Tripping Billies, The Stone, etc. because I can see Tim writing those parts but I want to believe it was 100% Dave.

[davem#36]

People actually think that "solo" is good? A comment on the video was about right "that solo sounds like a middle school jazz guitarist at best". When he tries to solo its definitely a weakness.

[Bluewater21]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

Strength: playing and singing at the same time

Weakness: laziness these days with Tim backing him

Worst compliment ever, every good guitar player can sing and play at the same time. Dave is one of the greatest rhythm guitarists of all time

[jakesomedevil41]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

I'm just saying his weakness, which he has admitted, is not having any crazy soloing ability which the video I posted shows. Yes that is funky and creative, sounds a lot better when he starts playing chords in key, but he knows he is no Tim Reynolds. Keep in mind that calling the soloing ability a weakness doesn't mean I think he sucks at it. His strength is his ability to come up with very creative riffs / chord progressions / rhythms. This is slightly off topic but I've always wondered how much help Dave had from Tim on coming up with songs like Satellite (including the intro), Tripping Billies, The Stone, etc. because I can see Tim writing those parts but I want to believe it was 100% Dave.

i've actually wondered the same thing for a long time.

i have always loved his jimi thing solos, especially the ones he was playing in 04. i get what you're saying about that being a weakness. i've never been one to "shred" or even enjoy playing anything resembling "shredding" so he's always been a big hero of mine for that kind of solo.

i wonder why he doesn't anymore.