Sexual Abuse/Harassment Thread

[dmbetc]

If C2S doesn't understand what sexual harassment is, then he should leave this thread. I'm banning before locking.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by dmbetc

So if a guy grabs my ass, but it only happened one time, that's not sexual harassment to you?

It’s not about to me or not to me.

Grabbing a woman’s butt worst case would be sexual assault. But not sexual harassment.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by dmbetc

If C2S doesn't understand what sexual harassment is, then he should leave this thread. I'm banning before locking.

That’s fine. I don’t want to get banned. I was just trying to be part of the discussion.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Not trying to lessen what occurred to these people, but why all of sudden all of these accusers coming out?
And people giving them praise for being "brave" for telling their story......many many many years later. Doesnt make sense to me.

Also amazing how the left and the right are covering this in completely different ways. Its very telling.

I think it's an avalanche effect plus women are supporting, and able to support, each other more and more now that 100% of things aren't run by dudes. The idea that if they call someone out their career is ruined isn't really there, as much or at all anymore.

[recentlyJTR41]

It's like Hollywood is full degenerates or something!

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

It's like Hollywood is full degenerates or something!

Wish they were more into thoughts and prayers and not raping and harassing.

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

I think it's an avalanche effect plus women are supporting, and able to support, each other more and more now that 100% of things aren't run by dudes. The idea that if they call someone out their career is ruined isn't really there, as much or at all anymore.

This. I don't pretend to understand their plight, but it sure seems like they probably feel pretty alone carrying the weight of what happened to them and they feel like coming out with the truth may fall on deaf ears or worse, (yes C2S) they may experience repercussions to their career or what have you. But when a few voices started speaking up and were being listened to, it empowered others to come forward.

I don't see why that's hard to understand, and I don't mean that as an insult dre if you're sincerely just confused by it.

Originally Posted by dre2142

Also amazing how the left and the right are covering this in completely different ways. Its very telling.

Definitely another element to it. Some people seem to want to defend the likes of someone like a politician, but I wonder if they gave the same consideration to one of those Hollywood types that have been accused.

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

It's like Hollywood is full degenerates or something!

And politics. And everywhere. It's not limited to Hollywood.

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Wish they were more into thoughts and prayers and not raping and harassing.

Do you have to be into one to avoid being into the other?

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Should get locked anytime now.

yeah a little longer than I expected but inevitable

[dmbetc]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

It's like Hollywood is full degenerates or something!

If you look into any big businesses you'll be bound to find many cases of sexual harassment by the powerful people.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

It's like Hollywood is full degenerates or something!

it's even impacting movie star roy moore!

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by GSUdawg521

This. I don't pretend to understand their plight, but it sure seems like they probably feel pretty alone carrying the weight of what happened to them and they feel like coming out with the truth may fall on deaf ears or worse, (yes C2S) they may experience repercussions to their career or what have you. But when a few voices started speaking up and were being listened to, it empowered others to come forward.

I don't see why that's hard to understand, and I don't mean that as an insult dre if you're sincerely just confused by it.

Yea, I really don't get why so many guys find this concept difficult to grasp.

And this isn't directed at dre for asking, more at jeepkid for his comments in other thread and Climbs in here.

Just because a women doesn't immediately run away screaming and call the cops doesn't mean it was wanted or any less problematic.

[zajDmB1]

Yea, definitely a money/power thing, not a Hollywood thing. Hollywood just has a lot of people with a lot of money/power.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

Yea, I really don't get why so many guys find this concept difficult to grasp.

And this isn't directed at dre for asking, more at jeepkid for his comments in other thread and Climbs in here.

Just because a women doesn't immediately run away screaming and call the cops doesn't mean it was wanted or any less problematic.

I think you do

[tyler3440]

Yeah its called hush money

But now people are not hushing

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

it's even impacting movie star roy moore!

Live at The Gorge doesn't mean Roi is a movie star.....

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by dmbetc

If you look into any big businesses you'll be bound to find many cases of sexual harassment by the powerful people.

Sarah's right. Basically no industry is immune from this kind of B.S., sadly.

[tyler3440]

its clearly a society problem in general but the reason its making the news is because its Hollywood

[coldengrey12]

The fact that they're celebrities is why people give a damn, but I think the stream of men leaving Fox News in disgrace because of allegations of sexual assault and sexual harassment or politicians on all stops in the political spectrum is both proof is not isolated to Hollywood and that this recent wave of speaking up has been building over the past few years.

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Not trying to lessen what occurred to these people, but why all of sudden all of these accusers coming out?
And people giving them praise for being "brave" for telling their story......many many many years later. Doesnt make sense to me.

Also amazing how the left and the right are covering this in completely different ways. Its very telling.

I look at is as when you're in class taking a test and you finish early, but you don't want to get up and leave way before anyone else. Then when someone else gets up, you feel like you can leave now, too.

Or when you're at a big dinner and nobody wants to be that person who gets up and runs to the buffet first. But once someone gets up, there's a stampede.

[OK_Ant]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

Things I've learned on ants today:

1) It's not pedophilia if she's 14

It's not. It's still a 'ped' something though. Pederast. Of course, you don't want the word 'ped' affixed to your name in any form.

[ExistenceNow]

What's a pederast, Walter?

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by tyler3440

its clearly a society problem in general but the reason its making the news is because its Hollywood

Don't take this the wrong way, but,

See?! Even Tyler gets it!

[chadizzy1]

When I was beginning my pizza career, I started as a delivery driver when I was 17. I had a female manager that said if I slept with her she would give me more hours and a raise. I declined, as I was in a relationship at the time. She ended up cutting my hours. I went to the owner (at the time) and he said, "Man, I'd kill to have a woman say the same thing to me". He was also a married man. It was a mess.

Eventually I went to work for a different franchise and was treated much better.

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

What's a pederast, Walter?

You and I are on point today!!

https://youtu.be/GZR58d77a4A

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

What's a pederast, Walter?

I'll take this since my name is Walter. Pederast refers to homosexual behavior between a man and a young boy.

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

When I was beginning my pizza career, I started as a delivery driver when I was 17. I had a female manager that said if I slept with her she would give me more hours and a raise. I declined, as I was in a relationship at the time. She ended up cutting my hours. I went to the owner (at the time) and he said, "Man, I'd kill to have a woman say the same thing to me". He was also a married man. It was a mess.

Eventually I went to work for a different franchise and was treated much better.

Why didn't you go straight to the media and report it?!? that manager is now running for senate! I can't believe you just went to work for a different franchise and didn't do anything about it!

I now don't believe your story! Liar!

[cazzie34]

But seriously, that sucks, chadizzynumber

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

When I was beginning my pizza career, I started as a delivery driver when I was 17. I had a female manager that said if I slept with her she would give me more hours and a raise. I declined, as I was in a relationship at the time. She ended up cutting my hours. I went to the owner (at the time) and he said, "Man, I'd kill to have a woman say the same thing to me". He was also a married man. It was a mess.

Eventually I went to work for a different franchise and was treated much better.

I love the implication that if you were single you would have done it