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Originally Posted by spoot388
grip a ball like you're throwing a slider, then rotate the ball a quarter turn left or right so the slider grip is on the "wrong side" of the seam. instead of snapping your wrist like a slider, let the ball roll off your fingers like a fastball. instead of tumbling, it has backspin. as a right handed pitcher, it would cut down and in on a right handed batter. at least it did for me back then. no idea if its something anybody actually throws or what it would be called. it was just one of those "i wonder what would happen if i hold it like this?" situations because thats what you do when you're 11.
as for your knuckler, how much did it move? everyone always screwed around with trying to throw them but no one ever could. i figured the mound would be too short of a distance for it to really move like it does in the majors.
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To the bolded - totally get all of that. I guess I didn't see kids messing around that much with their grip, almost like a wiffle ball. If anything, it was developing a circle change, which has a similar rotation.
My knuckle definitely had more movement as I got older (more room to work with, better overall grip), but it could move pretty good in LL as well - enough where my catchers would miss catching it every so often. It was a tough pitch to control, obviously, but it worked well to simply throw off hitters because no one else threw one.