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Old 05-09-2016, 05:48 PM   #13681
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Awesome, thanks. PM me your address and I'll mail it to you when I get it. I don't really need the CD, just the audio tracks. I don't really keep up with physical media anymore.
Ummm..except vinyl, right?

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    Ummm..except vinyl, right?

    Well yeah
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:17 AM   #13683
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    Re: **The Official Vinyl Collectors Thread**

    pearl jam reissues no code and yield (plus all the corresponding singles) on vinyl.

    if your plan to buy either of those to speculate on ebay, hope you sold before today
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:26 AM   #13684
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    Are they actually reissuing them, or remastering them?
    I know the original pressings of Ten and Vs. are well reviewed, how are the originals of No Code and Yield?
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    pearl jam reissues no code and yield (plus all the corresponding singles) on vinyl.

    if your plan to buy either of those to speculate on ebay, hope you sold before today
    Awesome. I hope they actually sound good. The other reissues sound like horse shit
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:32 AM   #13686
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    For No Code:

    "To celebrate the 20th anniversary of No Code, Pearl Jam reissues No Code on 150-gram vinyl. This is the first time the album has been available on the format since its original release and the first time the album is being mastered specifically for vinyl, by Grammy Award-winning engineer Bob Ludwig"
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:32 AM   #13687
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    Are they actually reissuing them, or remastering them?
    I know the original pressings of Ten and Vs. are well reviewed, how are the originals of No Code and Yield?
    Mastered for vinyl by Bob Ludwig.

    Know anything about him? Does he do the vault releases?
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:44 AM   #13688
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    Ugh, "mastered specifically for vinyl"...what the fuck does that mean?
    Pearl Jam are in dire need of proper vinyl releases. Bob Ludwig prefers digital these days, so even if they send him the tapes, which they probably would have noted if they were doing so, he's likely going to digitize them.

    Pearl Jam, got the live gig thing down pat, don't seem to give a toss about vinyl.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #13689
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    At least Bob is opposed to the loudness wars but...what are they sending him to master from?
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #13690
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    That's a shame. Yield and No Code are really good albums
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    Old 05-10-2016, 10:55 AM   #13691
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    At least Bob is opposed to the loudness wars but...what are they sending him to master from?
    good luck getting an answer from the pj camp. maybe bob will shed some light on it.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 11:13 AM   #13692
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    Just looked up the Discogs credits and this is basically the same as the Ten reissue. The Ten reissue was done by Ludwig and that has had pretty mixed reviews. I thought it sounded okay, better than the remastered CDs but that's not saying a whole lot.

    Such great albums, wish they'd treat them properly. All this "180-Gram Audiophile Pressing" and "Newly remastered for vinyl" shit that Pearl Jam's reissue campaign has been spewing forth, blech.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 11:34 AM   #13693
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    My e-mail to Ten Club:

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    I've read that No Code and Yield are getting vinyl releases and the product description is exceptionally vague, it tells us the weight and who is doing the mastering (Bob Ludwig), but what is the source material? Where is it being pressed? Were No Code and Yield both recorded to analogue tape? If so, will the ANALOG vinyl release be an all analog cutting or will it be digitally-sourced like most of Sony's releases unless otherwise noted? The band used to be such fans of vinyl, but it seems with the reissue campaign, going back to Ten, that the band only cares about vinyl being offered and little about the execution of it. The loudness wars have reared their ugly head with the digital reissues, Ten in particular was treated with over-zealous dynamic range compression. The term "audiophile" is thrown about so loosely with these projects, might we possibly see real audiophile releases of the Pearl Jam catalogue some day? "Remastered and cut from the original analogue stereo master tape in an all analogue chain, pressed at RTI on 180g HQ Vinyl" - that's what vinyl fans want to see. Thanks for any consideration you can give this matter, and any information you can share on the full lineage of the upcoming vinyl releases.
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    I do not have any information about that at this time.

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    Old 05-10-2016, 11:41 AM   #13694
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    It seems like most companies will throw out any pressing in any color because they know people will buy it. It makes me wonder if there are more vinyl collectors than vinyl listeners.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 11:41 AM   #13695
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    I suppose you probably shouldn't have expected anything different.

    It's sad but the majority of the people buying these just want to 'have it on vinyl' and couldn't care less about how it actually sounds.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 11:52 AM   #13696
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    Just another reason why Phish is the best band
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    Old 05-10-2016, 12:05 PM   #13697
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    It seems like most companies will throw out any pressing in any color because they know people will buy it. It makes me wonder if there are more vinyl collectors than vinyl listeners.
    I don't think there's any doubt that there are. I think a lot of the collectors listen to it too, but they do it more for the 'experience' as opposed to the actual sonics.

    Like Doby was saying, these days all they have to do is throw some buzz phrases on the sticker that don't ultimately mean anything:

    "Pressed on 180g audiophile vinyl"

    "Remastered for vinyl"

    "Audiophile pressing!"
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    Old 05-10-2016, 12:07 PM   #13698
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    My e-mail to Ten Club:



    Ten Club already responded:



    same exact canned answer as another 10c-er got when asking if there was going to be a box set announced. i'd be surprised if they read past the first couple sentences. maybe worth trying a bit later when the hype has died down and the tour is over.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 12:11 PM   #13699
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    Yeesh, from the Ten Club forums (which sucks I can't post in!)

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    I also love that they didn't split these up in to 2 LP's. Keeps the price down and you don't have to flip it every 3 songs.
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    This might be the best part of the whole deal "...the first time the album is being mastered specifically for vinyl, by Grammy Award-winning engineer Bob Ludwig."
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    Love that they're on one disc. Hoping they sound better than the other reissues,
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    MASTERED FOR VINYL BY BOB LUDWIG!!!!!!

    THEY LISTENED!!!!!!
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    now that these albums are FINALLY mastered for vinyl I would sell any overvalued original pressings some of you guys may be holding onto... i think their value is about to plummet
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    Old 05-10-2016, 12:29 PM   #13700
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    Glad I can save my money.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 12:40 PM   #13701
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    It seems like most companies will throw out any pressing in any color because they know people will buy it. It makes me wonder if there are more vinyl collectors than vinyl listeners.
    There is actually a pretty big learning curve with vinyl, so I understand why the consumer is ignorant and the seller is taking advantage.

    For me, I started an equal parts collector and listener-- I've never collected in the sense that I needed super rare, special colored, limited edition stuff, but it was like, oh wow, this album exists on vinyl, I love this album, I'm buying it. I want that in my collection-- done. You start to realize that A LOT of albums exist on vinyl. When I first started it was like, no way Low End Theory on vinyl?! Sick! :

    Now I understand that MOST of the albums I want exist in OP or RP.

    So over time, that has turned into more of a scenario where I want an album, but then do research to find reviews on the quality, look for the best source/version of that album, etc. I don't need top of the line sourcing/pressing for every record, but I have bought a couple albums that sounded like crap, so that's mostly what I'm trying to avoid there.

    I now understand that there is a lot of garbage out, and as I've had my set-up now for 2.5 years, I've fallen in love with the sound quality and that's what I'm seeking out now. And to me, that's how you further the hobby! The novelty has a ceiling, the sound quality's ceiling is as high as your bank account is comfortable with. So you add little things here and there to the set up, you start to care for your investment more (inners, outers, cleaners), make upgrades. You're building something that is very much your own all the while the music of your life, those albums and songs that are essentially a part of you become more clear, better sounding, more alive. That's the love for me right there.

    Most people haven't reached that point though and I'd bet most never will. It's novelty, it's cool/hip, it's a display of taste, etc for kids my age especially (I'm 26).

    And most people don't have their personal Doby (others of you have given me awesome advice, no offense, Doby is just a beast obviously) in their own small little corner of the internet. That's been huge this last year.

    So, ugh, thanks everyone. Love this thread.

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    Yeesh, from the Ten Club forums (which sucks I can't post in!)











    haha, the 'they listened!!!!' one is the one that made me stop reading the thread.
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    Old 05-10-2016, 12:50 PM   #13703
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    Is the idea behind less songs on a side on vinyl being better due to the fact that the information literally has more space to spread itself over, and, therefore, the stylus has more "space" or "time" to read the information in the grooves?
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    Old 05-10-2016, 01:36 PM   #13704
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    Did anyone see this?
    http://www.elusivedisc.com/The-Dave-...fo/LEGLP18940/



    Or this?
    http://www.musicdirect.com/p-494406-...vinyl-2lp.aspx

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    well well well
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    hopefully the track listing info is incomplete on that elusive disc entry
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    however, I'll take just the original cuts in a heartbeat if done correctly (and, as I've proven in the pearl jam thread, even if done incorrectly)
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    Old 05-10-2016, 01:49 PM   #13708
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    Knew it!

    Now if only someone could shed some light on the "details coming soon"...

    Whateverdontcarepreorderedthanks!
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    hopefully the track listing info is incomplete on that elusive disc entry
    No it's correct, three tracks per side. It's AAA, in my opinion they've knocked it out of the park.
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    No it's correct, three tracks per side. It's AAA, in my opinion they've knocked it out of the park.


    (that's at the news - not at you personally Doby)
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