Marvel's AVENGERS:INFINITY WAR / END GAME (spoilers for endgame start on page 21)

[JRS1386]

Interesting theory I think I’ve seen it somewhere else on this forum

[42graystreet]

Originally Posted by Rockyall107

Dawned on me today that the only person who can save iron man from space is:


Captain marvel

And it makes complete sense

Thor could too, no?

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by Rockyall107

Dawned on me today that the only person who can save iron man from space is:


Captain marvel

And it makes complete sense

Oh true!

[WidespreadMule3]

I believe in Gamora. I think her and Tony are gonna figure it out.

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

I believe in Gamora. I think her and Tony are gonna figure it out.

You mean Nebula. Gamora's sitting this one out.

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by snow1868

You mean Nebula. Gamora's sitting this one out.

She had a rough landing.

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by Rockyall107

Dawned on me today that the only person who can save iron man from space is:


Captain marvel

And it makes complete sense

That would be a textbook deus ex machina if I ever saw one. I truly think they'll "kill" him off while stranded on that ship and have him "come back to life" via the time traveling that will be done.

[CrazyEasy354]

Originally Posted by Rockyall107

Dawned on me today that the only person who can save iron man from space is:


Captain marvel

And it makes complete sense

Originally Posted by 42graystreet

Thor could too, no?

Technically, since Thor has the Bifrost, he can travel anywhere, even a point in space (I think). BUT, Heimdall was able to see every living soul anywhere in existence, as was his power, and then transport to them using the Bifrost. Thor does not have this particular power. So I think Thor being Tony's savior might be tough, but we will see.

HOWEVER, this logic I'm using comes into question when thinking about Thor's arrival in Wakanda. How did he know of the ongoing battle there after forging Stormbreaker? Some have said this might be some kind of Odinsight he acquired when he became the new All-Father, but this hasn't been confirmed as far as I know. Some discussion on this would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by mthawk07

That would be a textbook deus ex machina if I ever saw one. I truly think they'll "kill" him off while stranded on that ship and have him "come back to life" via the time traveling that will be done.

I really hope they avoid either direction presented here. I brought this up in the general MCU thread, but Carol Danvers just happening upon Tony in the middle of space on her way to earth is a stretch. But it's very likely that this is how it'll be done. I also think the whole "killing and then resurrecting" would be a little much since the whole point of this movie is resurrecting everyone that got dusted by Thanos. They might as well have killed Tony on Titan if they wanted to do some resurrection with him.

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by snow1868

You mean Nebula. Gamora's sitting this one out.

Yes, that child of Thanos.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by CrazyEasy354

Technically, since Thor has the Bifrost, he can travel anywhere, even a point in space (I think). BUT, Heimdall was able to see every living soul anywhere in existence, as was his power, and then transport to them using the Bifrost. Thor does not have this particular power. So I think Thor being Tony's savior might be tough, but we will see.

HOWEVER, this logic I'm using comes into question when thinking about Thor's arrival in Wakanda. How did he know of the ongoing battle there after forging Stormbreaker? Some have said this might be some kind of Odinsight he acquired when he became the new All-Father, but this hasn't been confirmed as far as I know. Some discussion on this would be appreciated.



I really hope they avoid either direction presented here. I brought this up in the general MCU thread, but Carol Danvers just happening upon Tony in the middle of space on her way to earth is a stretch. But it's very likely that this is how it'll be done. I also think the whole "killing and then resurrecting" would be a little much since the whole point of this movie is resurrecting everyone that got dusted by Thanos. They might as well have killed Tony on Titan if they wanted to do some resurrection with him.

holy shit... I was just about to come here and make virtually this exact same post. Both wondering if it could be Thor and Rocket somehow finding out where the ship is and bi-frosting their way right on it to save Tony, but also the question of how was it Thor knew at that point to go to Wakanda in the 3rd act.
seriously i'm really wondering if this isn't just an alter account I created but don't remember doing so

[CrazyEasy354]

Originally Posted by junior94

holy shit... I was just about to come here and make virtually this exact same post. Both wondering if it could be Thor and Rocket somehow finding out where the ship is and bi-frosting their way right on it to save Tony, but also the question of how was it Thor knew at that point to go to Wakanda in the 3rd act.
seriously i'm really wondering if this isn't just an alter account I created but don't remember doing so

We should take this topic over to the general MCU thread and see if it gains any traction. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on the matter.

[junior94]

I was watching one of those "trailer viewing reaction" videos earlier, but it was done by Kevin Smith. He was practically jizzing there in his chair But one particular theory he went immediately to, but i hadn't seen anyone else talk about yet. Taking how Tony says in his dialog in the whole opening sequence "drifting out here in space, with no hope of rescue" etc... that they used "rescue" for a very specific reason. There was already a few months back a behind the scenes photo went out of Gwyneth Paltrow wearing some sort of superhero outfit herself. I don't know if it was maybe some female variation on an Iron Man suit, but it was clearly something, but there she was wearing it and standing in front of a green screen.

Thing is, apparently there's precedent in the comics of Pepper Potts donning her own superhero persona as "Rescue". I have no idea of what if any potential powers would be, but Kevin Smith's thinking that somehow it's Pepper that winds up saving Tony from space.

[junior94]

oh also actually one of the commenters on Smith's video left a pretty interesting Cap related theory that I'd never heard or even thought of. That basically whether thru the Time Stone, the Quantum Realm or whatever other time travel ability, Steve is able to go back in time to the 1940s and he'd get to be and stay with the still young Peggy from then. And he'd want to just stay in that part of the time line (so that he'd live out a life with her as if he never got frozen to the future to begin with), but for some reason he'd be faced with wanting to stay back there with her, or deciding to leave it forever and come back to present day would be key in saving the lives of everyone. The impossible fucking choice.

[junior94]

damn. believe me I've watched quite a few of these fan-made 10 year retrospectives over the last few months of pretty much everything now leading up to End Game, and this is definitely one of the best. The guy only just put it out a few days ago. It is 10 minutes long, but hey there's a lot to cover.


https://youtu.be/7p1-Iu0KEh0

[KevinTH]

Originally Posted by junior94

damn. believe me I've watched quite a few of these fan-made 10 year retrospectives over the last few months of pretty much everything now leading up to End Game, and this is definitely one of the best. The guy only just put it out a few days ago. It is 10 minutes long, but hey there's a lot to cover.


https://youtu.be/7p1-Iu0KEh0

Looks like it's time for me to plan my marathon.

[WidespreadMule3]

I got Thor 1-3, GotG 1 & 2 & BP in the mail yesterday. I got Iron Man 1-3 coming today and that'll complete my MCU Blu Ray collection. I think I'm gonna start a full rewatch either tonight or next weekend. Maybe 1 or 2 a week. I'm pretty excited to go back and see them all in release order. This will be my first full rewatch. I've seen all of them multiple times but never in order.

[MOWJO8185]

Between what's currently on Netflix, and Youtube TV basically having unlimited cloud DVR storage, I think I have all the Marvel movies pretty much on demand as well. I'm going to start a marathon shortly here too.

[KevinTH]

I thought I had fallen behind on my blu-ray collection but just checked and I'm only missing Black Panther and Ant-Man and the Wasp. Also, I think I have The Incredible Hulk on DVD, so I need to get the blu-ray for that too. It really is quite incredible what they've done over the course of the last 11 years, and I'm excited to see Endgame. There's a couple movies that will be a bit of a struggle to get through, but overall it should be fun to go back to where it all started. I am a DC guy and laugh when I think back to how I had no idea what the end credits scene at the end of Incredible Hulk meant. Just after two movies, who ever thought they would lead to the enormous vision and success that came down the line? Funny to think back to that. Having watched the 10 year retrospect posted above it's interesting to see how the tone of the movies has changed. Those first string of movies up to Winter Soldier are fun, but still somewhat serious in tone. That all changed after Gaurdians of the Galaxy.

[UCFish]

I have everything but the Incredible Hulk which I have only watched once.

[KevinTH]

In my opinion Incredible Hulk is a bit underrated. It's certainly not the best of the bunch but, as someone who was new to the Marvel world with little interest in the characters in 2008, it kept me interested in what was to come. I still wish they kept Edward Norton as Bruce Banner. I like Mark Ruffalo, but not so much in the role of Bruce Banner. He seems like he's always just kind of "there". His acting in all the Marvel movies has been pretty unimpressive to me, and comes off very flat and one dimensional. Edward Norton seemed a bit more into the role and gave the character some life. However, at the time of The Incredible Hulk the Marvel movies weren't has jokey and I have a hard time picturing him in Thor Ragnarok, but I'm sure he would have pulled it off.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

In my opinion Incredible Hulk is a bit underrated. It's certainly not the best of the bunch but, as someone who was new to the Marvel world with little interest in the characters in 2008, it kept me interested in what was to come. I still wish they kept Edward Norton as Bruce Banner. I like Mark Ruffalo, but not so much in the role of Bruce Banner. He seems like he's always just kind of "there". His acting in all the Marvel movies has been pretty unimpressive to me, and comes off very flat and one dimensional. Edward Norton seemed a bit more into the role and gave the character some life. However, at the time of The Incredible Hulk the Marvel movies weren't has jokey and I have a hard time picturing him in Thor Ragnarok, but I'm sure he would have pulled it off.

I like it too. Not a bad film at all

[mthawk07]

Incredible Hulk is awful. It randomly transitions from one scene to the next without any structure at all. It's just the military chasing Banner around, thinking they can kill him, Hulk smashing things, then Banner returning to normal and being all mopey. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[UrsadonDMB]

Originally Posted by UrsadonDMB

I find it interesting that they are filming them back to back, it makes sense but it is just interesting. The end game story must be finished for all of the movies at this point for the most part

Not saying I called it, but 2016 was a long time ago.

I am putting together a calendar to watch all the movies before release...in the past I have done every Sunday leading up to the film.

[UrsadonDMB]

If you started with Iron Man tonight (I plan to) you could watch one movie a week until Age of Ultron.

After that you would have to watch two a week. I feel that Ultron is a good place to begin the two a week trend.

*Note there is a week gap between Black Panther and Infinity War because I will be at Star Wars Celebration

January 6th - Iron Man
January 13th - Incredible Hulk
January 20th - Iron Man 2
January 27th - Thor
February 3rd - Captain America: The First Avenger
February 10th - Avengers
February 17th - Iron Man 3
February 24th - Thor: The Dark World
March 3rd - Captain America: The Winter Soldier
March 10th - Guardians of the Galaxy
March 17th - Avengers: Age of Ultron
March 20th - Ant Man
March 24th - Captain America: Civil War
March 27th - Dr. Strange
March 31st - Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2
April 3rd - Spider Man: Homecoming
April 7th - Thor: Ragnarok
April 10th - Black Panther
April 17th - Avengers: Infinity War
April 21st - Ant Man & the Wasp
April 24th - Captain Marvel (Go see it in theaters again!)
April 25th - Avengers: End Game

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by UrsadonDMB

If you started with Iron Man tonight (I plan to) you could watch one movie a week until Age of Ultron.

After that you would have to watch two a week. I feel that Ultron is a good place to begin the two a week trend.

*Note there is a week gap between Black Panther and Infinity War because I will be at Star Wars Celebration

January 6th - Iron Man
January 13th - Incredible Hulk
January 20th - Iron Man 2
January 27th - Thor
February 3rd - Captain America: The First Avenger
February 10th - Avengers
February 17th - Iron Man 3
February 24th - Thor: The Dark World
March 3rd - Captain America: The Winter Soldier
March 10th - Guardians of the Galaxy
March 17th - Avengers: Age of Ultron
March 20th - Ant Man
March 24th - Captain America: Civil War
March 27th - Dr. Strange
March 31st - Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2
April 3rd - Spider Man: Homecoming
April 7th - Thor: Ragnarok
April 10th - Black Panther
April 17th - Avengers: Infinity War
April 21st - Ant Man & the Wasp
April 24th - Captain Marvel (Go see it in theaters again!)
April 25th - Avengers: End Game

My wife and I have been watching one every Sunday for five weeks now, which will take us up to the Endgame premier. Just finished the first Captain America. We started before the premier date got pushed up a week, so we'll probably watch Infinity War the night before seeing Endgame.

[UrsadonDMB]

Originally Posted by mthawk07

My wife and I have been watching one every Sunday for five weeks now, which will take us up to the Endgame premier. Just finished the first Captain America. We started before the premier date got pushed up a week, so we'll probably watch Infinity War the night before seeing Endgame.

I remember when Ultron was coming out we started of Valentines day

How far we have come.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by UrsadonDMB

Not saying I called it, but 2016 was a long time ago.

I am putting together a calendar to watch all the movies before release...in the past I have done every Sunday leading up to the film.

granted, Feige has long since admitted their initial strategy was a mistake because it put impossible expectations on what the title would be. But really I think there wound up being no point to it at all. The bottom line reason for the hold back was "it's a spoiler". Except, not really. They've been very open since at least all the way back on that day when they announced all of Phase 3 that while there will very much be plenty of more movies with Phase 4 and beyond, but the Infinity War films would be a "closure" of sorts to how the first 10 years have been. So "End Game" is an exceedingly natural title for the last one. It winds up just being semantics, really.

[Joruus]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

In my opinion Incredible Hulk is a bit underrated. It's certainly not the best of the bunch but, as someone who was new to the Marvel world with little interest in the characters in 2008, it kept me interested in what was to come.

Just watched it again last night for the first time in a long time and I agree with this.

It's a fun little action movie that sets up a lot of what the Hulk is, which Marvel then ignores in later movies.

• Elevated heart rate triggering Hulk - I'm okay with ignoring this one
• Betty Ross
• Bruce remembering parts of his Hulk-outs
• Samuel Stearns as the Leader
• Emil Blonsky is still alive
• Tony Stark approaching Thunderbolt Ross about the Avengers initiative - They still spend the time to search for Bruce in the Avengers

[junior94]

I can't imagine most won't be down with this, the Russos have said End Game will almost certainly be a full 3 hours (keep in mind this includes end credits). There then came talk about there actually being an intermission put in, but they said they've just joked about in the editing room. I'll be shocked if Marvel does that.

Besides, there have been four test screenings so far, and in the first three not a single person left for the bathroom the whole way.
But that would put it at about 20 minutes more than Infinity War was, already the longest MCU movie.

[junior94]

The final, official run time of END GAME will be 3:00:58, as in 3 hours and 58 seconds.


I'm putting this is here for the sake of sharing the information but also just to check with the crowd, I'm guessing once the movie comes out and if people want to openly talk about it right away they'll do so in THIS thread?
like how we keep away from spoilers immediately in the 'last movie watched' thread, but just go all out in a thread specific to one property like this one?