First "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Hearings Since 1992

[dmbinchicago]

Congress will take up hearings on the law banning homosexuals from openly serving in the US Military (seems strange to even write that in 2010).

President Obama and top Pentagon officials met repeatedly over the past year about repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell,” the law that bans openly gay members of the military.

But it was in Oval Office strategy sessions to review court cases challenging the ban — ones that could reach the Supreme Court — that Mr. Obama faced the fact that if he did not change the policy, his administration would be forced to defend publicly the constitutionality of a law he had long opposed.

As a participant recounted one of the sessions, Mr. Obama told Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, that the law was “just wrong.” Mr. Obama told them, the participant said, that he had delayed acting on repeal because the military was stretched in two wars and he did not want another polarizing debate in 2009 to distract from his health care fight.

But in 2010, he told them, this would be a priority. He got no objections. ...

Then we hear this from the Republicans:

“In the middle of two wars and in the middle of this giant security threat,” Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader, said Sunday on “Meet the Press” on NBC, “why would we want to get into this debate?”

Easy, John - because it's a very simple civil rights issue and there shouldn't even be a "debate".

[ShotgunDMB]

Couldn't care less about this issue. Just get it over with, so you can worry about more important things and so you can quit annoying me with it.

[AJF_41]

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=272381

:D

[dmbinchicago]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Couldn't care less about this issue. Just get it over with, so you can worry about more important things and so you can quit annoying me with it.

Agreed 100%.

[dmbinchicago]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=272381

:D

Oops. Guess I'll post that in there, for when this thread is locked.

[ShotgunDMB]

McCain's being a hypocritical little jerk when it comes to this issue.

The guy can't get over losing. Whether it's to Bush or to Obama.

[timg1414]

I am not sure why they are still debating it. Everyone from Republicans to Democrats to military officers want this to happen. Just vote on it already. Interesting stat I heard lastnight concerning this debate 13,000 troops have been kicked out or left the military because of Dont Ask Dont Tell

[JMcCartyFBI]

Admiral Fitzwallace has already said everything I have to say on the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f7js0mLwY4

[seekupchuck]

Does "dont ask, dont tell" refer to the policy on White Phosphurous and DU?

[fullontilt87]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Couldn't care less about this issue. Just get it over with, so you can worry about more important things and so you can quit annoying me with it.

how awful for you

[buzz05232000]

Originally Posted by JMcCartyFBI

Admiral Fitzwallace has already said everything I have to say on the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f7js0mLwY4

I said what he said in the other thread

[dmbinchicago]

Originally Posted by fullontilt87

how awful for you

It doesn't directly affect him, so he couldn't care less. Typical Republican position.

[AJF_41]

This was good.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...hat-you-can-be

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by fullontilt87

how awful for you

Yeah, there's kind of more important things to worry about.

[fullontilt87]

Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB

Yeah, there's kind of more important things to worry about.

you could argue that there's always something more important to worry about. but if we kept sticking to that mindset, then issues relating to social justice would never make it to the table. (and im not saying DODT = 60's civil rights movement)

and btw, im assuming you felt the same way about prop 8? that is, that gay people could already get married in CA so why waste time and resources trying to repeal it.

[ShotgunDMB]

Originally Posted by fullontilt87

you could argue that there's always something more important to worry about. but if we kept sticking to that mindset, then issues relating to social justice would never make it to the table. (and im not saying DODT = 60's civil rights movement)

and btw, im assuming you felt the same way about prop 8? that is, that gay people could already get married in CA so why waste time and resources trying to repeal it.

Well, I think an issue like gay marriage should decided by the states, so I'm fine with the citizens having a say in it. I'm sure it wasn't cheap though.

I don't think the courts should be forcing something like that on people.

[buzz05232000]

God, I hate it when courts force freedom on people

[liduponmyhead]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

This was good.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...hat-you-can-be

LOL I love Colbert.

My god what is up with these southern repub Senators? Why do they continually sound like they are living in 1836? We don't want gays in the military because they drink too much! Yeah! Straight guys don't drink!

[liduponmyhead]

Originally Posted by buzz05232000

God, I hate it when courts force freedom on people

I also hate it when the government tries to ensure everyone their consitutional rights.

[fullontilt87]

Originally Posted by buzz05232000

God, I hate it when courts force freedom on people

damn activist judges!