Westworld (HBO series)

[justink]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

marsden definitely a robot. numerous guests refer to him as one. why would he go through all that trouble just to pretend he's a robot

idk. like i said... maybe they run you through a bunch of tests like vanilla sky and ask what kind of adventure you want?

what if he's a guest but agreed to be vulnerable to make it more realistic?

but he gets to start over at the beginning if he fails until he saves the princess?

just a thought.

or maybe he is a robot and loses his shit.

but i think he's definitely the hero.

[thebridge15]

I think it's at least plausible because otherwise why were the robots killing the dad?

ed harris mentions that he gave up easily "that time," so the whole situation could be something requested or set up by him on a regular basis (to get to the girl)

[justink]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

I think it's at least plausible because otherwise why were the robots killing the dad?

ed harris mentions that he gave up easily "that time," so the whole situation could be something requested or set up by him on a regular basis (to get to the girl)

yeah, ed harris can be a guest at the same time as marsden.

which explains marsden's surprise that harris wasn't killed when he shot him as well as marsden's shaky hand and refusal to pull the trigger when his muzzle was on harris' forehead.

it's possible they are both guests on different payment plans (one higher, one lower, allowing one invincibility and the other not).

but to the extent that neither knows that there is more than one paying guest playing the game at the same time...

make sense?

[bradshaw06]

Marsden is a robot.

I am less convinced that Harris is a real person.

[Tiduwho]

Originally Posted by TobiasClown

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I noticed you stopped posting. Was this you?

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[ricky towel]

I'm thinking Ed Harris is the hero.

[Arby]

Just finished the first episode

I'm on board for sure. Concept is great. Dialogue is shaky but whatever

The young guy who comes in the train has to be an AI right? He's repeating the day and he "died"

[thebridge15]

yeah it's definitely laid out as if he's a robot, I think Justin is just saying there could be a twist of sorts where he isnt

[bradshaw06]

Towards the end of the episode when they are gathering the defective robots, one of the workers says she has two more, the last two over here. Those two were marsden and the girl. Both are robots.

[bradshaw06]

Also. Thought the visual effects of the robots malfunctioning was really cool looking.

[jwehaeDMB]

Cool ending with the fly on Dolores

[iMAC386]

Originally Posted by jwehaeDMB

Cool ending with the fly on Dolores

Yeah I was wondering what that represented.

She went from saying she never killed a living creature just a few minutes earlier to killing that fly...wonder what the meaning of that was, or if it's an omen that the robots have figured out a way to override their ability to not hurt guests/living things? Does Dolores still remember the message from her dad?

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

marsden definitely a robot. numerous guests refer to him as one. why would he go through all that trouble just to pretend he's a robot

Did anyone think he wasn't?

I assumed he was

[neumdogg]

lol I didn't think the show was confusing at all. Apparently this thread did.

Which is funny, because I am usually the idiot when it comes to shows like these.

[neumdogg]

I guess my biggest question is the about the basement. It kind of looks like an old shopping mall or something. I wonder if Westworld was built on top of something that existed before.

Also, do we know when this takes place? Is it the present or in the future?

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by ricky towel

I'm thinking Ed Harris is the hero.

Now this would be a cool idea.

[Unsheathed]

Originally Posted by iMAC386

Yeah I was wondering what that represented.

She went from saying she never killed a living creature just a few minutes earlier to killing that fly...wonder what the meaning of that was, or if it's an omen that the robots have figured out a way to override their ability to not hurt guests/living things? Does Dolores still remember the message from her dad?

I saw it as some sort of higher level of awareness. The show began with a fly crawling over the eye of one of the androids, and it didn't even blink.

Earlier in the episode it was said that Anthony Hopkins had been secretly manipulating code and adding specific, nuanced responses to the hosts. However, I would guess that Hopkins manipulations go far beyond nuanced, pre-scripted responses. He is rewriting the base code for the hosts, giving them a sentient awareness, which leads to the more lifelike responses, such as slapping the fly.

Host apocalypse season 2!

[thebridge15]

more like episode 2

[kelchlsm]

So let me try and get this straight, hosts (are the robots) guests are humans that pay to go into these parks- right?

Going to try and rewatch this tonight

[Unsheathed]

Originally Posted by kelchlsm

So let me try and get this straight, hosts (are the robots) guests are humans that pay to go into these parks- right?

Going to try and rewatch this tonight

You are correct. Robot is a bit politically incorrect though. These things have feelings damnit!

[Unsheathed]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

more like episode 2

That'll be the start of the revolt. Once Anthony Hopkins gives them the key to the factory and they start replicating themselves, everyone is fucked.

[iMAC386]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

Also, do we know when this takes place? Is it the present or in the future?

Marsden said on the Daily Show that it was the future, or a "futuristic society".

[jwehaeDMB]

So the guests are having sex with android vag? Wonder how well the engineers did there.

[justink]

Originally Posted by jwehaeDMB

So the guests are having sex with android vag? Wonder how well the engineers did there.

or who's cleaning?

[TobiasClown]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

I guess my biggest question is the about the basement. It kind of looks like an old shopping mall or something. I wonder if Westworld was built on top of something that existed before.

Also, do we know when this takes place? Is it the present or in the future?

I think it's safe to assume this takes place in the future. During the discussion between Ford and Bernard regarding the reveries, Ford says something along the lines of "we've cured all disease..."

As far as location, the r/westworld subreddit has posted some interesting theories about it either being on another planet, or underground.

Highly recommend surfing r/westworld if you're interested in the show and have questions.

[justink]

second watch...

i think everyone coming in on the train is a guest. evident by how they're all talking together about their first time, and how awesome it is and "it better be with how much we are paying for it". there can be multiple guests at the same time. but they can all have different payment plans with different depths. this is why i think marsden paid the highest package to make it as real as possible and to be able to be killed and restart again.

that's why he knew the woman and said that "he came back for her". he's been coming back for her to save her. she's his princess and she needs saving. it's just a big video game.

[justink]

yeah... Marsden is definitely not a robot. he's a guest.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by justink

yeah... Marsden is definitely not a robot. he's a guest.

No he's not. They even have him getting repaired in the control room in one scene.

[justink]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

No he's not. They even have him getting repaired in the control room in one scene.

that's the twist...

he paid more than ed harris, for that kind of treatment.

but all guests come in on the railway.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by justink

that's the twist...

he paid more than ed harris, for that kind of treatment.

but all guests come in on the railway.

What? You're making things up that have no support based on what we know (as are many people in this thread).

After his first death two women on the train see him and one says, "Oh my God, they're so lifelike. Like that one - he's perfect." His dialogue upon returning is identical each time. Guests recognize him and know him by name from a prior visit. And again, he was being repaired.