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[dmbmuskie]

Much different than being in a relationship and being married with a kid, IMO.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Not 100% sure if the marital status of these guys, but I’ll take DJ, Bryson, Morikawa, Wolff, Scheffler, and Hovland in the majors over the next 2 years and let you have the married guys and few pretty good about it.

DJ is married to the hottest property on the PGA Tour.

Young guns are definitely showing promise, but I'm sure many of them won't stay unhitched for long.

Just looking at the married winners over the past year:

Kevin Na
Webb Simpson
Stewart Cink
Hudson Swafford
Sergio Garcia
Martin Laird
Jason Kokrak
Brian Gay
Robert Streb
Harris English
Patrick Reed
Daniel Berger
Max Homa
Jon Rahm
Michael Thompson
Jim Herman

[dmbmuskie]

Shoutout to Westwood for having his wife as his caddie.

[YouNeverKnow25]

I think maybe people saw results that rickie had early in his career and mistook that for talent. that comes off as harsh but I think the problem with "for a player that's so talented, why hasn't he won more?" lies more with the assumption being made in the supposition than with the player. even in his best years the most you could say about his profile is "pretty good putter, pretty marginal everywhere else, and has managed to piece it together very well on particular weekends"

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

I think it’s a fair argument to say Golf is a single man’s game.

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

1. DJ, in a relationship and a dad
2. Rahm, married with a kid on the way
3. JT, in a relationship
4. Morikawa, in a relationship
5. Xander, in a relationship
6. Bryson, in a relationship
7. Hatton, in a relationship
8. Reed, married and a dad
9. Cantlay
10. Simpson, married and a dad


65. Fowler, in a relationship, works hard at golf and deserves a break

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Much different than being in a relationship and being married with a kid, IMO.

Most great players aren't single and have either a relationship status that is equal to or more involved than Rickie's

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Shoutout to Westwood for having his wife as his caddie.

He and Stricker.

[dmbmuskie]

Would LOVE to see an event where your wife has to be your caddie.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

I think maybe people saw results that rickie had early in his career and mistook that for talent. that comes off as harsh but I think the problem with "for a player that's so talented, why hasn't he won more?" lies more with the assumption being made in the supposition than with the player. even in his best years the most you could say about his profile is "pretty good putter, pretty marginal everywhere else, and has managed to piece it together very well on particular weekends"

Yep great post, there are maaaany players to list ahead of Rickie as best player to never win a major



As for putting here are his last couple of years in SG: Putting

2021: 189th
2020: 60th
2019: 13th
2018: 43rd
2017: 1st

[Climb2safety]

It’s like every situation with the players is the same and we should expect the exact same outcomes from every single one of them. Am doing it right?

And no one said you can win and be married. Or have a gf.

[dmbmuskie]

Peak Ricky was pretty damn good.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

It’s like every situation with the players is the same and we should expect the exact same outcomes from every single one of them. Am doing it right?

And no one said you can win and be married. Or have a gf.

Your defense of his game falling apart seems to be 1) he has worked hard at golf, and 2) he is in a relationship and enjoying life. That's fine if he isn't pushing as hard as others and that's what he wants to do (not sure that is the case), I don't see how that mentality isn't weak though from a competitive standpoint.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Peak Ricky was pretty damn good.

He’s fine. There are a lot of other players right in his age group that are just as inconsistent right now.

He’s definitely at a low point so it’s being rightfully acknowledged be people like and root for him.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Your defense of his game falling apart seems to be 1) he has worked hard at golf, and 2) he is in a relationship and enjoying life. That's fine if he isn't pushing as hard as others and that's what he wants to do (not sure that is the case), I don't see how that mentality isn't weak though from a competitive standpoint.

I’ve simply implied it’s understandable which you have taken to mean a whole lot of other things I didn’t say.

I don’t know if he’s lost a little fire or got burned out but neither would surprise me and I don’t think any less of him right now.

I think they way you perceive athletes at least in this discussion is insane. Go ahead, hate RICKIE for not winning. Or being as committed as you feel he should be. That is weird to me to look at him like that.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

I’ve simply implied it’s understandable which you have taken to mean a whole lot of other things I didn’t say.

I don’t know if he’s lost a little fire or got burned out but neither would surprise me and I don’t think any less of him right now.

I think they way you perceive athletes at least in this discussion is insane. Go ahead, hate RICKIE for not winning. Or being as committed as you feel he should be. That is weird to me to look at him like that.

Very insane to have more respect for athletes who are driven to win, really out there

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Very insane to have more respect for athletes who are driven to win, really out there

You do you Toy.

You are a very black and white person. I’m not.

[dmbmuskie]

I’d like to know Rick’s honest opinion of the TP5 he’s contracted to play.

Obviously, there are several top guys who win with the ball, but it seems his play really dropped off once he put it in play.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

You do you Toy.

You are a very black and white person. I’m not.

If preferring to watch athletes get the best out of themselves and being in awe of those that do, the great champions in every sport, is me doing me than yeah I'll continue to do so. Even someone who fell off but is making progress and always had that competitiveness like Spieth is very different than "meh, he deserves it, he works hard at golf and is dating a hot woman"

[Noles20]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Would LOVE to see an event where your wife has to be your caddie.

I would prefer a no caddy event. Like college.

[dmbmuskie]

Originally Posted by Noles20

I would prefer a no caddy event. Like college.

I’m all for anything that mixes things up a few times per year. Love the WGC match play.

DJ didn’t even know how to use his carry bag at Seminole last year.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

If preferring to watch athletes get the best out of themselves and being in awe of those that do, the great champions in every sport, is me doing me than yeah I'll continue to do so

This was never in question. It’s clear how much you like yourself

You should be aware of what a hard ass you come across as. And that you have incredibly high expectations, and seem very rigid.

Going through life like this can be very difficult.

Take this or leave it.

[Route_2]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Would LOVE to see an event where your wife has to be your caddie.

Stricker had his wife carrying a stand bag and Lee's lady had the full tour bag. Interesting dynamic there.

[dmbmuskie]

Originally Posted by Route_2

Stricker had his wife carrying a stand bag and Lee's lady had the full tour bag. Interesting dynamic there.

I’ve been using my Jones even when riding for the last 6 months. Decided to take the C130 yesterday because of the 40 degree change in temperature and frost delay needing a wide variety of layers, snacks, and booze. Couldn’t believe how heavy it was.

Cannot imagine carrying that thing around 7500 yards 4 days in a row.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by Climb2safety

This was never in question. It’s clear how much you like yourself

You should be aware of what a hard ass you come across as. And that you have incredibly high expectations, and seem very rigid.

Going through life like this can be very difficult.

Take this or leave it.

You're trying to call me out for liking competitive professional athletes who are driven to win, saying that viewpoint is insane, I'm sorry if my enjoyment of sports comes off as hard ass to you. I'm well aware not everyone is Jack, Tiger, in a different sport Brady etc. but that mentality is what I love as a sports fan and a lot of guys in the top 25 owgr are that way to some degree. You are giving Rickie a pass for really weak reasons from a competitive standpoint, reasons that I doubt line up with how he feels as I'd assume he is more driven than you give him credit for, also implying that I hate him which is wrong.


Not sure why you are choosing to make this personal but I'm not bothered by your comments.

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

You're trying to call me out for liking competitive professional athletes who are driven to win, saying that viewpoint is insane, I'm sorry if my enjoyment of sports comes off as hard ass to you. I'm well aware not everyone is Jack, Tiger, in a different sport Brady etc. but that mentality is what I love as a sports fan and a lot of guys in the top 25 owgr are that way to some degree. You are giving Rickie a pass for really weak reasons from a competitive standpoint, reasons that I doubt line up with how he feels as I'd assume he is more driven than you give him credit for, also implying that I hate him which is wrong.


Not sure why you are choosing to make this personal but I'm not bothered by your comments.

I am not nor ever meant to call you out on anything. I simply expressed my opinion.

I’m not sure what you took that way.

[drop2d]

Is climb drunk today? You’re all over the place due.

You have to forgive TS#s... he grew up in TB12 land. When you witness the best athlete in the world for 20 years you tend to have higher expectations.

[Noles20]

I missed the news about Ricky. Aside from the Faldo thing and apology, what happened with Ricky Fowler?

[Climb2safety]

Originally Posted by Noles20

I missed the news about Ricky. Aside from the Faldo thing and apology, what happened with Ricky Fowler?

He’s in danger of missing the masters for the first time in 10 years is one reason people are talking about his play lately

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by drop2d

Is climb drunk today? You’re all over the place due.

You have to forgive TS#s... he grew up in TB12 land. When you witness the best athlete in the world for 20 years you tend to have higher expectations.

A lot of valid points

[dmbmuskie]

Not a Foreplay Guy, but the interview with Butch Harmon is really really good.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by dmbmuskie

Not a Foreplay Guy, but the interview with Butch Harmon is really really good.

Thanks for the heads up, anything Butch Harmon is an automatic listen for me