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Old 09-23-2017, 04:26 PM   #46591
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Obama invented racism at the beer summit
Not at all what I said. This "argument" is no different than the president isn't respectful, so why should anyone else be?

I mean, I don't know? Maybe just try to be the bigger person? Maybe because we're trying to live in a society?
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    This orange fuck face is such a damn embarrassment to this country


    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...18138747727872
    Can't Twitter just ban the guy?

    The fact that Twitter is his main form of communication and he's POTUS is beyond insane.
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    Old 09-23-2017, 04:31 PM   #46593
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    Can't Twitter just ban the guy?

    The fact that Twitter is his main form of communication and he's POTUS is beyond insane.
    Twitter won ban him... too good for business.


    The fact that you even have to say that is so amazingly pathetic.


    If nothing else, the last 24 hours has proven 100% this guy can get us into a nuclear war with his tweets and words.
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    Old 09-23-2017, 04:32 PM   #46594
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    This would have about as much effect as anti-abortionists standing outside Planned Parenthood. It's so easy to look away when your express purpose to be there is to protest and it's not being integrated into some other event that is thought of as unrelated. Never mind the fact that the venue Kaepernick chose was a nationally televised event. He forced it into the public consciousness.

    I honestly can't think of another single protest, peaceful or otherwise, in my lifetime that has come even close to being as effective as this one over a long term period.
    Going back to the million man march, which you (and I would agree) posted was very effective. What other event were they disrupting in order to gain all of the attention that they received?
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    I know. Because kneeling is such an indication of strength and action.







    The fact that the military pays to do the flyovers and pull out the flag doesn't mean that it's not designed to respect fallen soldiers. The two aren't mutually exclusive.



    But again, when it comes to politics, people will talk themselves into anything being okay. That's partially how we ended up with Trump. A lot of people just dismissed his behavior. I was one of the very few people on the planet to know that Marco Rubio was the best person for the job given the candidates but I can only do so much.


    I didn't think it was a way to respect fallen soldiers. I just saw it more like "yea America!" Kinda thing.
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    If people aren't honest enough with themselves to understand that, yes, that was the genesis of this on a national level, then there's no sense in even discussing anything further regarding how all of this "started."

    Similar to the fact that the dislike for the ACA is what partially led to Trump being elected. Even someone like me, who hates HRC, would have voted for her if I loved the ACA and wanted it to stay considering the other guy was saying his first priority would be to repeal it.

    But again, people have difficulty accepting facts and how one things lead to another. It's like how Bush partially led us to Obama. It's literally no different but people will argue to the death that it is.
    I guess if by "genesis of this" you mean it brought some pretty shitty things that happen across America to a wider audience then I'd agree.

    Don't think the beer summit caused racism though.
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    @thePresident: Tweak isn’t afraid of roger goodell. Tweak will stand for the national anthem and dares any libtard black panther kneeler to see him on the field and try and break his legs for his outstanding patriotism. Can they do it? Doubt it. Sad!
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    Not at all what I said. This "argument" is no different than the president isn't respectful, so why should anyone else be?

    I mean, I don't know? Maybe just try to be the bigger person? Maybe because we're trying to live in a society?
    lol

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    I didn't think it was a way to respect fallen soldiers. I just saw it more like "yea America!" Kinda thing.
    that's how I've always seen it too
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    I guess if by "genesis of this" you mean it brought some pretty shitty things that happen across America to a wider audience then I'd agree.

    Don't think the beer summit caused racism though.
    Yeah. That's what happened.

    Like I said, when it comes to politics, people will convince themselves of anything. It's all the cops fault and we all need to be #woke.
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    I mean I've never read an account of that story to make me believe anything other than the cops fucked up.

    If BO's response made racist white people angry then that's ok with me.
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    I didn't think it was a way to respect fallen soldiers. I just saw it more like "yea America!" Kinda thing.
    Fireworks are "yeah America", which is why you're not asked to stand and remove your hat. Again, it's a silly thing and I know that because I don't agree with others, it's not going to change anything.

    This falls under the underlying thing of all politics....Everything is justifiable and never let a disaster go to waste. All of this is by design. The fact that we're talking about it gives businesses (not media outlets) like Fox, MSNBC, HuffPo, etc...make tons and tons of money by creating a false narrative and the rest be damned.
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    I mean I've never read an account of that story to make me believe anything other than the cops fucked up.

    If BO's response made racist white people angry then that's ok with me.
    Here’s one:

    Police officers on view a person actively trying to break into a house.

    Police officers investigate to see if the subject is the owner or an intruder.


    End.


    How did they “fuck up”? That’s literally called “doing their job”.
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    I mean I've never read an account of that story to make me believe anything other than the cops fucked up.

    If BO's response made racist white people angry then that's ok with me.
    Such a passive aggressive statement.

    But again, it's not worth arguing. There's nothing that would ever convince anyone that Obama did anything but leave the country in the best shape ever. Of course, they don't have a reply to how Trump got elected outside of "the Russians", so again, what's the point? People love denial.
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    Yeah, it's like he doubled down on Obama's bullshit.

    But I literally posted this multiple times in "the prompter", if we continue to create all of these bullshit groups and treat them all differently we're going to have a big, big problem later and here we are. But again, what do I know? A blind person could have seen this coming as soon as Obama invited that Harvard professor to the WH. (And yeah, that's exactly when all of this started.)
    Yea...I'm going to go ahead and say if half the country's gut reaction to people saying Black Lives Matter (even when it FIRST started and hadn't become what it is) was to turn around and say "Fuck off!" in the form of All Lives Matters and Blue Lives Matter, the problem is a little deeper than Obama having beer with a dude.
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    Here’s one:

    Police officers on view a person actively trying to break into a house.

    Police officers investigate to see if the subject is the owner or an intruder.


    End.


    How did they “fuck up”? That’s literally called “doing their job”.
    Yeah. It was literally cut and dry. But, because that guy was a Harvard professor and black, he thought he was above being questioned.

    It's like the NFL guy saying that a cop had a gun to his head and the cop in question was about 25 feet away.

    People believe what they want to believe. It's just that simple.
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    Yea...I'm going to go ahead and say if half the country's gut reaction to people saying Black Lives Matter (even when it FIRST started and hadn't become what it is) was to turn around and say "Fuck off!" in the form of All Lives Matters and Blue Lives Matter, the problem is a little deeper than Obama having beer with a dude.
    Well that's all fine and well but that's not really addressing what I said.

    I get it. You're "woke."

    Edit: BLM is a joke.

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    Yea...I'm going to go ahead and say if half the country's gut reaction to people saying Black Lives Matter (even when it FIRST started and hadn't become what it is) was to turn around and say "Fuck off!" in the form of All Lives Matters and Blue Lives Matter, the problem is a little deeper than Obama having beer with a dude.
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    If you can’t see the forest thru the trees with BLM, you’re choosing not to, or you’re a racist.
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    Again, what you don't understand is how that worsened the problem. Obama, without any knowledge of anything, went against the cops and white people and set the tone for willful ignorance.

    Now, people still celebrate Michael Brown but no one knows who Laquan McDonald is, including me (I literally had to google the name).

    People are all about false narratives and really dumb political beliefs. And, the word beliefs is a specific word. It's simply based on feelings, no different than religion.
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    If you can’t see the forest thru the trees with BLM, you’re choosing not to, or you’re a racist.
    There are no trees and there is no forest. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand mental manipulation. #woke

    BLM is a joke.
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    Again, what you don't understand is how that worsened the problem. Obama, without any knowledge of anything, went against the cops and white people and set the tone for willful ignorance.

    Now, people still celebrate Michael Brown but no one knows who Laquan McDonald is, including me (I literally had to google the name).

    People are all about false narratives and really dumb political beliefs. And, the word beliefs is a specific word. It's simply based on feelings, no different than religion.
    Actually not at all what he did. That is, in your words, a false narrative.
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    If I remember in and around Massachusetts the narrative of the “beer summit” was that it was pretty cool thing to happen.
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    Fireworks are "yeah America", which is why you're not asked to stand and remove your hat. Again, it's a silly thing and I know that because I don't agree with others, it's not going to change anything.



    This falls under the underlying thing of all politics....Everything is justifiable and never let a disaster go to waste. All of this is by design. The fact that we're talking about it gives businesses (not media outlets) like Fox, MSNBC, HuffPo, etc...make tons and tons of money by creating a false narrative and the rest be damned.


    But every country does fireworks? The Coldplay concert had fireworks and they aren’t even from America
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    Actually not at all what he did. That is, in your words, a false narrative.
    Whatever BS story you want to believe so that you think you're "on the right side of history" has no bearing on my life. Have at it, Haus!

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    If I remember in and around Massachusetts the narrative of the “beer summit” was that it was pretty cool thing to happen.
    Yes. MA is very liberal, so yeah.

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    But every country does fireworks? The Coldplay concert had fireworks and they aren’t even from America
    I literally have no idea what this means.

    What you're trying to argue is you can disrespect anything. Okay, I get that. I'm saying that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should or it's a good idea.

    It's a fairly simple concept.
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    went against the cops and white people. I mean, that's certainly one way to look at it.
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    If I remember in and around Massachusetts the narrative of the “beer summit” was that it was pretty cool thing to happen.
    In all honesty did the reaction by that professor strike you as completely overblown given the circumstances? I mean seriously, the guy should have been thanking that officer instead of whining to anyone who would listen, including obama. Situation:

    Officer drives up and see's a person attempting to enter a house without a key by trying to break in.

    Officer assumes it is a break in attempt because he did not know the professor didn't have his key so he walks up to stop the attempt.

    Officer identifies himself, professor explains why he was trying to break in - should have ended right then and there.

    Naturally the PC clowns, obama included, assume racism since the officer was white and the professor was black which is absurd. The officer was just doing his job attempting to thwart what he perceived as a break in attempt.

    Remind me again why this became such a big deal?
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    It became a big deal because the guy was arrested (also his own fault) and he then paid sharpton to make it a big deal.

    So, essentially, the answer is money.
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    In all honesty did the reaction by that professor strike you as completely overblown given the circumstances? I mean seriously, the guy should have been thanking that officer instead of whining to anyone who would listen, including obama. Situation:

    Officer drives up and see's a person attempting to enter a house without a key by trying to break in.

    Officer assumes it is a break in attempt because he did not know the professor didn't have his key so he walks up to stop the attempt.

    Officer identifies himself, professor explains why he was trying to break in - should have ended right then and there.

    Naturally the PC clowns, obama included, assume racism since the officer was white and the professor was black which is absurd. The officer was just doing his job attempting to thwart what he perceived as a break in attempt.

    Remind me again why this became such a big deal?
    That’s not where it ended though. The guy was arrested and charged.

    I’m sure Gates was being obnoxious but Crowley certainly didnt deescalate, which is his job. So he just said fuck it and took him to jail because “you can beat he wrap but you can’t beat the ride.”
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    That’s not where it ended though. The guy was arrested and charged.
    For being a disorderly idiot.

    The fact he lived there and wasn’t breaking into a house doesn’t shield him from any other offenses.

    Should the cops turn a blind eye to a kilo of coke on his kitchen counter just because he lives there?
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    That’s not where it ended though. The guy was arrested and charged.

    I’m sure Gates was being obnoxious but Crowley certainly didnt deescalate, which is his job. So he just said fuck it and took him to jail because “you can beat he wrap but you can’t beat the ride.”
    Had he treated that officer with a moderate amount of common decency and respect he does not get arrested, it was his own fault. He was cuffed and stuffed for being a dick to the officer who was only doing his job then the racial hucksters like sharpton, farrakhan and the usual suspects started their usual bullshit to amplify it 100%.
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