New Album: "Come Tomorrow" Coming June 8th.

[KconleyK]

Originally Posted by BotheLaneFan

That became their goal, and it obviously worked out. Beatles wanted the same thing, so did Brian Wilson, The Rolling Stones and a fair amount of other bands. You SHOULD try to be the biggest and the best. If you’re not trying to win, why even try?

U2 was more interested in becoming Pop Cultures icons than being the biggest band in the world. Dave doesn't have this personality, he is in it for the fun of playing music with his band it seems. Jagger, Wilson, Bono all the bands you mentioned have lead singers who were pop/rock icons and wanted that.

The Beatles did it while consistently putting out good music.

Getting away from the point, while their new albums might be decent, all who think U2 think Joshua Tree, much like all who think DMB think Crash or BTCS. You might be a big fan and love those albums but to non hardcore fan, everything after Joshua Tree was not on the same level. It's a natural progression.

Tell me one band, outside of U2 biggest of your obvious fandom and the Beatles whose 8th or 9th studio album was as good as their first few.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

Joshua Tree is one of the greatest albums of all-time, not just in U2's body of work.

So is Achtung Baby, and to a lesser extent War and All That You Can’t Leave Behind.

[jaymas9]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

Ehhh, kinda, but that was a one off producer from 17 years ago. It surely effected his song writhing/approach during that era, but his song writing in the later 2000s (BW era) is nothing like the Ballard era. Even now his song writing has changed as he’s become an older family man. Sure, it adds to his evolution as a song writer, but he still has that influence of the young adult/teenager who was writing I’ll back you up and Dancing Nancies in him as well. He’s human, just like the rest of us, and all of his life experiences and lessons add up to the man/artist he is today.

Totally fair. I wouldn't disagree. Obviously Ballard was first on the scene.

[zefarrett]

Samurai may be a slower song for the 1 spot, but I just listened to it live again and totally remembered I thought it was quite the powerhouse. Tons of emotion. #imafan

[pricedon]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Funny looking at old setlists on the almanac, new song names are all there

I have a problem with Bob Law being retroactively changed, because the setlists have it listed as Bob Law. Doesn't seem like they're being as accurate this way.

[jaymas9]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

and hey, the subtitle is "Oh Joy Begin"!

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by KconleyK

U2 was more interested in becoming Pop Cultures icons than being the biggest band in the world. Dave doesn't have this personality, he is in it for the fun of playing music with his band it seems. Jagger, Wilson, Bono all the bands you mentioned have lead singers who were pop/rock icons and wanted that.

The Beatles did it while consistently putting out good music.

Getting away from the point, while their new albums might be decent, all who think U2 think Joshua Tree, much like all who think DMB think Crash or BTCS. You might be a big fan and love those albums but to non hardcore fan, everything after Joshua Tree was not on the same level. It's a natural progression.

Tell me one band, outside of U2 biggest of your obvious fandom and the Beatles whose 8th or 9th studio album was as good as their first few.

The Rolling Stones “Big 3” came 10-12 albums in.

It’s tough, because it’s easier when you release an album every year. I think it’s better to look at time rather than number of albums.

[matt630]

Originally Posted by groogrux27

hey i remember someone putting together a playlist of all the songs we've already heard on the album and posting it here, someone have a link to that?

https://youtu.be/p7cTZ5ZQNUc

[dmbwadeo]

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I’m guessing the song has evolved as well. Sort of like a “Leave Me Praying” to DDTW. Same basic song but different evolution of it.

[madhatter]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Funny looking at old setlists on the almanac, new song names are all there

Where do you see these?

bkdkdkdd
Come On Come On
Come Tomorrow
She
That Girl Is You
When I'm Weary

EDIT: If you were just referring to the updated titles for Bob Law and Samurai Cop, then nevermind.

[KconleyK]

Originally Posted by BotheLaneFan

The Rolling Stones “Big 3” came 10-12 albums in.

It’s tough, because it’s easier when you release an album every year. I think it’s better to look at time rather than number of albums.

Maybe I am to young, 36, but I never got the fascination with the Rolling Stones, exactly as you said there would be a few good songs an album but nothing was a true master piece, then they had 3 good albums and back to one or two songs per album were worthwhile.

Outside of the Beatles there isn't a band that I can think of, that just put out masterpiece album continually, and most (Rolling Stones was a good example) hit those master piece albums with their second or third album and then down hill.

Even Pearl Jam, who is comparative in careers to DMB, their fans do the same questioning every time a new album comes out.

[groogrux27]

Originally Posted by matt630

https://youtu.be/p7cTZ5ZQNUc

thank you for that

[GoingToCA91]

The version of Samurai Cop Dave played at the EJI Museum last week was really good! I love what he does in the little solo section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0sjetaUCZY

Samurai Cop is at around 3:45

[dpavadmb]

Originally Posted by BotheLaneFan

So is Achtung Baby, and to a lesser extent War and All That You Can’t Leave Behind.

All That You Can't Leave Behind was garbage

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by KconleyK

Maybe I am to young, 36, but I never got the fascination with the Rolling Stones, exactly as you said there would be a few good songs an album but nothing was a true master piece, then they had 3 good albums and back to one or two songs per album were worthwhile.

Outside of the Beatles there isn't a band that I can think of, that just put out masterpiece album continually, and most (Rolling Stones was a good example) hit those master piece albums with their second or third album and then down hill.

Even Pearl Jam, who is comparative in careers to DMB, their fans do the same questioning every time a new album comes out.

Check out the Island years for BM&TW

1973 - Catch A Fire
1973 - Burnin'
1974 - Natty Dread
1976 - Rastaman Vibration
1977 - Exodus
1978 - Kaya
1979 - Survival
1980 - Uprising

No need for a greatest hits album, every single album is great from start to finish including also the posthumous 1983 release, Confrontation (featuring Buffalo Soldier)

[LaLaLaLaHey]

Originally Posted by dpavadmb

All That You Can't Leave Behind was garbage

Joshua Tree is still the best, but I love ATYCLB - has Walk On, Beautiful Day (regardless of how overrated it is, it's still a decent song), Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of, Elevation, and In a Little While

[KconleyK]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Check out the Island years for BM&TW

1973 - Catch A Fire
1973 - Burnin'
1974 - Natty Dread
1976 - Rastaman Vibration
1977 - Exodus
1978 - Kaya
1979 - Survival
1980 - Uprising

No need for a greatest hits album, every single album is great from start to finish including also the posthumous 1983 release, Confrontation (featuring Buffalo Soldier)

I don't have enough knowledge to agree or disagree, I am all for jamming out to BM but outside of just saying play Bob Marley on my Google Home or spotify I don't know the albums.

Great example one I def never would have thought of.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by jake.sager

Joshua Tree is still the best, but I love ATYCLB - has Walk On, Beautiful Day (regardless of how overrated it is, it's still a decent song), Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of, Elevation, and In A Little While

Love all those tunes, but the highlight of the album for me is When I Look at the World.

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by GoingToCA91

The version of Samurai Cop Dave played at the EJI Museum last week was really good! I love what he does in the little solo section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0sjetaUCZY

Samurai Cop is at around 3:45

Hadn't yet seen the video of any of that. Mercy even sounds different.


Listening to Sam Cop now.

[dobyblue]

I was 18 in 1991 and Achtung Baby was definitely massive and very much appreciated by the alternative crowd, if you had Ten, Nevermind and Badmotorfinger in your CD collection you probably also had Achtung Baby. They were all over MTV too thanks to making really fab videos.

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

I'm a big album flow guy, I rarely listen to studio tracks alone, always in the context of the album. Can't Stop would be a completely non-egregious tune in the 7 or 8 slot to me, just is what it is, that second half filler before a big ending. But based on what I know of both tracks, I just can't imagine opening with Sam Cop, which I think works pretty well - and then going right into Can't Stop.

I will, of course, withhold judgment til I hear the studio cuts of both, but it just seems a strange album start to me based on nothing but tracklist and what I know of those songs live.

Flow is one of the reasons BTCS is one of the bands best album. If not the very best. It's the only one I can listen to fully from start to finish.

BW also has good flow as well IMO. It's easy to listen to, but I always skip you and me.

[dmbclstj2]

eh... U2 talk...haha

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by KconleyK

Outside of the Beatles there isn't a band that I can think of, that just put out masterpiece album continually, and most (Rolling Stones was a good example) hit those master piece albums with their second or third album and then down hill.

Zeppelin was really consistent, IMO, from Led Zeppelin I-IV + Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti.

Grateful Dead's run between '69 and '77 was incredible: Aoxomoxoa, Workingman's Dead, American Beauty, Wake of the Flood, Mars Hotel, Blues for Allah, and Terrapin Station

Phish had a crazy good run from Junta, Lawn Boy, Nectar, Rift, Hoist, Billy Breathes, Ghost, and Farmhouse

Neil Young had a really good starting run, culminating in On the Beach

Hell, Pink Floyd hit their masterpiece with album number 8. And their run from Meddle through The Wall is perhaps the best 6 album streak of all time (purely my opinion).

Point being, I think it's not as uncommon as you might think for bands to put out continuous good music over their career or a fairly long period of time.

[dpavadmb]

Originally Posted by dmbclstj2

eh... U2 talk...haha

exactly...

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by dmbclstj2

eh... U2 talk...haha

Right? Man do I hate U2.

Suck it, Bo.

[bubba40]

Originally Posted by dmbclstj2

eh... U2 talk...haha

Yeahhhh

[TheLastPig]

take U2 talk to the U2 thread please

[scrock25]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

Zeppelin was really consistent, IMO, from Led Zeppelin I-IV + Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti.

Grateful Dead's run between '69 and '77 was incredible: Aoxomoxoa, Workingman's Dead, American Beauty, Wake of the Flood, Mars Hotel, Blues for Allah, and Terrapin Station

Phish had a crazy good run from Junta, Lawn Boy, Nectar, Rift, Hoist, Billy Breathes, Ghost, and Farmhouse

Neil Young had a really good starting run, culminating in On the Beach

Hell, Pink Floyd hit their masterpiece with album number 8. And their run from Meddle through The Wall is perhaps the best 6 album streak of all time (purely my opinion).

Point being, I think it's not as uncommon as you might think for bands to put out continuous good music over their career or a fairly long period of time.

This is a good post.

[KconleyK]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I was 18 in 1991 and Achtung Baby was definitely massive and very much appreciated by the alternative crowd, if you had Ten, Nevermind and Badmotorfinger in your CD collection you probably also had Achtung Baby. They were all over MTV too thanks to making really fab videos.

I was 10 in 91, so you remember the $.01 for 10 CD deal that BMG did. Then they shipped you a CD a month that you never returned and owed them $100's of dollars till they finally went bankrupt and that debt went away. Or maybe that was just me.

Anyway Achtung Baby wasn't one of my 10 CD's even though the other three you named were included.

[groogrux27]

Originally Posted by matt630

https://youtu.be/p7cTZ5ZQNUc

i suggest everyone listen to this as a preview for album flow, I was also questioning Samurai Cop -> Cant Stop -> Here On Out, but it actually works really well haha