*Prompter Thread* (NO personal attacks, NO trolling)

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by mdmarvich

So you're saying the US should recuse itself from all UN discussions/sanctions related to NK?

I think this is where politics becomes a gray area. I'm not saying the USA shouldn't make its case against NK. I'm saying that, most people think that the entire point of the UN is to help resolve conflicts before they escalate to military action. If the US doesn't allow that to even have a chance to work, then what point is the UN?

I look at it almost like a trial. Both sides should be able to make their case and then turn it over to an impartial jury, so to speak. That doesn't mean that whatever the UN says will actually happen but isn't that supposed to be the first step?

[OK_Ant]

Socialism, as any other system of government, functions only based on the amount of corruption inherent within those representing the people who voted for it, or not in many cases. No one system is perfect, but there certainly is a steep decline among the choices because of the folks attracted to them and those too afraid to thwart their behaviours.

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by Lcsulla

Oh, welcome back Roger, you have been missed man. Glad all is well. My bad on the delayed welcome, was watching some NHL action FINALLY!

No worries and I would be way more disappointed if you were welcoming me back and ignoring the NHL.

[justink]

Originally Posted by rconverse

I think this is where politics becomes a gray area. I'm not saying the USA shouldn't make its case against NK. I'm saying that, most people think that the entire point of the UN is to help resolve conflicts before they escalate to military action. If the US doesn't allow that to even have a chance to work, then what point is the UN?

I look at it almost like a trial. Both sides should be able to make their case and then turn it over to an impartial jury, so to speak. That doesn't mean that whatever the UN says will actually happen but isn't that supposed to be the first step?

No way man. That’s just Trump skirting responsibility. /s

[Lcsulla]

Originally Posted by rconverse

what point is the UN?

Creating government jobs for largely pisspot nations?

[TwoStep2888]

ah socialism, that's the good stuff

[Lcsulla]

Originally Posted by rconverse

No worries and I would be way more disappointed if you were welcoming me back and ignoring the NHL.

I only posted between periods man and did not see you were back until after the Hawks game was over!

[TwoStep2888]

hi roger

[rconverse]

Originally Posted by Lcsulla

I only posted between periods man and did not see you were back until after the Hawks game was over!

There are so many people in the city happy for the NHL preseason because the Bears are so terrible.

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

hi roger

Hey Josh.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by Lcsulla

We will have to agree to disagree. Capitalism is far superior to socialism on 99% of the issues. Where would you prefer to live - the US, venezuela, cuba, vietnam, etc, etc?

Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, New Zealand. There are plenty of examples where socialism works. There are plenty of examples where it's a fucking disaster, too, as you point out.

To repeat myself a little, I don't think America should tip wholesale toward socialism. I don't even know how that would work, but I imagine it looking something like China does right now, where it's socialist but the economy is pretty damned capitalist.

However, I think if we identify programs or agencies that could be of the most benefit to Americans run in a "socialist" way, let's do it. Health care is a great example.

The military is a socialist culture. (Which is irony because they defend democracy). Highways, roads, public libraries, postal service. We rely on spooky, scary socialism for lots of stuff.

Just give in to socialism, Jaime. Let the hate flow through you.

[rconverse]

I feel like appropriating tax dollars for roads, libraries, and postal services doesn't really fall under the category of socialism.

I think most people that make money believe that they have some fiscal responsibility for things like roads, cops, fire departments, etc...

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by rconverse

I feel like appropriating tax dollars for roads, libraries, and postal services doesn't really fall under the category of socialism.

I think most people that make money believe that they have some fiscal responsibility for things like roads, cops, fire departments, etc...

I'm not so hung up on the name, which is kinda my point about "what it's called" being meaningless.

[Lcsulla]

Originally Posted by coldengrey12

Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, New Zealand. There are plenty of examples where socialism works. There are plenty of examples where it's a fucking disaster, too, as you point out.

To repeat myself a little, I don't think America should tip wholesale toward socialism. I don't even know how that would work, but I imagine it looking something like China does right now, where it's socialist but the economy is pretty damned capitalist.

However, I think if we identify programs or agencies that could be of the most benefit to Americans run in a "socialist" way, let's do it. Health care is a great example.

The military is a socialist culture. (Which is irony because they defend democracy). Highways, roads, public libraries, postal service. We rely on spooky, scary socialism for lots of stuff.

Just give in to socialism, Jaime. Let the hate flow through you.

Agreed on most of what you said. But hell no will I ever give in to socialism/communism man!

[Lcsulla]

Originally Posted by rconverse

I feel like appropriating tax dollars for roads, libraries, and postal services doesn't really fall under the category of socialism.

I think most people that make money believe that they have some fiscal responsibility for things like roads, cops, fire departments, etc...

Agreed, 100%!

[coldengrey12]

I can't believe I'm about to reference an SNL Celebrity Jeopardy skit to make a political point ... but in the prophetic words of Darrell Hammond as Sean Connery, "I don't care what you call it, Trebek! I only care if it works!"

[zajDmB1]

One man's fiscal responsibility is another man's socialism and vice versa.

Just depends who you want to vote for you.

[coldengrey12]

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss," Zaj?

[FromTheMorning]

Trump sure does love his dictator friends.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ards-attacking

[VTDMBNH]

Sure looks like this Graham-Cassidy bill will get to 50. What a shitshow. It's worse than the original repeal bills, followed an equally rushed and CBO-free path to get here, and we are one sweet deal for Arizona away from a yes vote by McCain. How 49 Senators could back this is beyond me, even from a process perspective alone.

[justink]

Do y’all see what that unhinged maniac tweeted about Mexico? What a racist

[Tiduwho]

Originally Posted by VTDMBNH

Sure looks like this Graham-Cassidy bill will get to 50. What a shitshow. It's worse than the original repeal bills, followed an equally rushed and CBO-free path to get here, and we are one sweet deal for Arizona away from a yes vote by McCain. How 49 Senators could back this is beyond me, even from a process perspective alone.

The summary of the bill I read was an absolute nightmare. If the American public actually understood what they were proposing instead of just relying on buzzwords "repeal that evil Obamacare!" There would be little to no support nationwide.

It is 95% in antithesis to the average American and their health needs. The general public does NOT know better.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by justink

Do y’all see what that unhinged maniac tweeted about Mexico? What a racist

Guyzs look! 1 not-embarrassing tweet. It means all the other ones were FAKE NEWZ. #MAGA

[BTBaboon]

Drip, drip, drip.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-ma...2016-campaign/

According to a former U.S. official, the intercepts picked up conversations between Manafort and Russian individuals about the campaign

[ShotgunDMB]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/18/news...idy/index.html

It'll probably pass

[VTDMBNH]

Originally Posted by Tiduwho

The summary of the bill I read was an absolute nightmare. If the American public actually understood what they were proposing instead of just relying on buzzwords "repeal that evil Obamacare!" There would be little to no support nationwide.

It is 95% in antithesis to the average American and their health needs. The general public does NOT know better.

Will be a rude awakening when people can't afford coverage anymore because of preexisting conditions. What's your level of optimism/pessimism on this bill being passed? I've got a bad feeling about it.

[MDPrompter]

Originally Posted by rconverse

I think this is where politics becomes a gray area. I'm not saying the USA shouldn't make its case against NK. I'm saying that, most people think that the entire point of the UN is to help resolve conflicts before they escalate to military action. If the US doesn't allow that to even have a chance to work, then what point is the UN?

I look at it almost like a trial. Both sides should be able to make their case and then turn it over to an impartial jury, so to speak. That doesn't mean that whatever the UN says will actually happen but isn't that supposed to be the first step?

I think my point was much more simple/straightforward than how you took it...so I probably didn't elaborate enough with my initial post.


Totally agree we should give the UN a chance to work. My only point is that we, the USA, are part of the UN. Trump said "let's see how THEY do" when referring to the UN...as if the UN is some body that doesn't include the US. If the UN fails to keep NK in check, it is a failure of all the countries in the UN...including us.

Trump has a history of pointing the finger and not wanting to actually own anything or take responsibility for anything. If anything goes wrong, it can't possible be his fault...using the term "they" is just another example of him trying to skirt responsibility.

[cazzie34]

The magic elixir that States are more efficient at everything is a potion that is just too sweet to resist for republicans.

[AJF_41]

guy loves natural disasters


WE ARE WITH YOU!
#maga

[justink]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

guy loves natural disasters


WE ARE WITH YOU!
#maga

proves the border wall isn't racist, no?

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

guy loves natural disasters


WE ARE WITH YOU!
#maga

Oh god. Last time someone said this (me) it caused a shitstorm, category 5. take cover!