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Old 04-24-2019, 08:35 AM   #1801
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Re: What would you want in the 21st Anniv. package of BTCS?

I can understand the arguments for and against them putting more effort into social media. But I don't really see where there would be a lot of value added by having more Twitter, Facebook and Instagram posts. I doubt they can do anything on there that would sell more tickets or albums.

A video message here and there would give a more personal touch to the band for sure though.
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    I can understand the arguments for and against them putting more effort into social media. But I don't really see where there would be a lot of value added by having more Twitter, Facebook and Instagram posts. I doubt they can do anything on there that would sell more tickets or albums.

    A video message here and there would give a more personal touch to the band for sure though.
    This, none of the stuff they do there drives ticket sales. They could so much on there that they don't that people here would find engaging but they are clearly not interested.

    In 2015 they did a webcast from Italy where there were announcers who would speak in between songs like sports casters. I have no idea what they were saying, but it would be cool if they did something similar in the sets.

    Live stream all the shows with a pre show report discussing the tour and what they think is on deck for tonight. They could even record little snippets to air pre-show with band members. Then have them come back on during the encore and post show to talk about highlights.

    That would be cool. I'm sure they have people or could easily hire people to do that if they wanted. It'll never happen but I think it would be cool.
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    they don't give a shit about the shows themselves, why would they put that much effort into non-show tour stuff?
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    I can understand the arguments for and against them putting more effort into social media. But I don't really see where there would be a lot of value added by having more Twitter, Facebook and Instagram posts. I doubt they can do anything on there that would sell more tickets or albums.

    A video message here and there would give a more personal touch to the band for sure though.
    Its not always about directly selling tickets. Its about reaching out to your fans and giving them a more personal experience. In turn, that will make them more likely to purchase stuff like Live Trax or merch if they feel actively engaged.

    They dont need to do it, but its just another tick on a long list of stuff that shows they really dont care all that much about the fan base.
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    Old 04-24-2019, 09:14 AM   #1805
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    This, none of the stuff they do there drives ticket sales. They could so much on there that they don't that people here would find engaging but they are clearly not interested.

    In 2015 they did a webcast from Italy where there were announcers who would speak in between songs like sports casters. I have no idea what they were saying, but it would be cool if they did something similar in the sets.

    Live stream all the shows with a pre show report discussing the tour and what they think is on deck for tonight. They could even record little snippets to air pre-show with band members. Then have them come back on during the encore and post show to talk about highlights.

    That would be cool. I'm sure they have people or could easily hire people to do that if they wanted. It'll never happen but I think it would be cool.
    I think this is exactly what the band doesn’t want though - discussing what was good or bad about a particular show.

    It seems pretty clear to me that this band isn’t trying to cater to people who follow the tour and certainly isn’t trying to encourage that behavior either. They don’t want the type of discussion that happens here.
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    I think this is exactly what the band doesn’t want though - discussing what was good or bad about a particular show.

    It seems pretty clear to me that this band isn’t trying to cater to people who follow the tour and certainly isn’t trying to encourage that behavior either. They don’t want the type of discussion that happens here.
    Agreed. They have made this more and more clear on multiple levels the older they get.

    People hate the trey/phish comparison and its beaten to death here, but those recent quotes from him about how appreciative he is of the fan base and how he feels obligated to do new/unique things really highlights the massive gulf between how someone like him and Dave approach things.
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    Old 04-24-2019, 09:31 AM   #1807
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    We didn't even know a 25-year core member had been permanently kicked out of the band until after tickets went on public sale

    You mean you didn't even know that a band member had left until they made it public? That's insanely disrespectful. If they wanted real fan engagement, there should have been a twitter poll or at least an instagram post.



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    You mean you didn't even know that a band member had left until they made it public? That's insanely disrespectful. If they wanted real fan engagement, there should have been a twitter poll or at least an instagram post.



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    If nothing else, it was deceitful.
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    I know he hasn't been on there in like 10 years now but I would love if Dave came back to Twitter.

    Why would Dave go on twitter? What part of that world would anyone want to interact with? There's no upside.



    Have you seen how people interact with Stefan?
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    Old 04-24-2019, 09:34 AM   #1810
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    I would say its kind of insane they dont post setlists after shows or put pics up regularly considering how much theyre on the road.

    Just so strange to me they wouldnt hire a person to do that.

    They do exactly this and have for a while. It's been pointed out already, but I think it needs to be highlighted that fans are upset that they're not doing the thing the are have already been doing.
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    I would say its kind of insane they dont post setlists after shows or put pics up regularly considering how much theyre on the road. If you look at other bands that tour aggressively, their social media is always being updated with stuff as the tour is going on. Its a good tool to keep fans engaged.

    Just so strange to me they wouldnt hire a person to do that. Theyre all about their crew and helping them make a living, why have someone handle social media thats on the road with them?
    They post the setlist and a pic of the show poster on Facebook after almost every show...
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    Why would Dave go on twitter? What part of that world would anyone want to interact with? There's no upside.



    Have you seen how people interact with Stefan?
    Dave quit Twitter at the perfect time to be honest.
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    Agreed. They have made this more and more clear on multiple levels the older they get.

    People hate the trey/phish comparison and its beaten to death here, but those recent quotes from him about how appreciative he is of the fan base and how he feels obligated to do new/unique things really highlights the massive gulf between how someone like him and Dave approach things.
    Awesome, then got to a Phish site and talk about how great it is and stop clogging up every thread here with literally the same arguments. I mean, aren't you tired of your own complaints yet?
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    Awesome, then got to a Phish site and talk about how great it is and stop clogging up every thread here with literally the same arguments. I mean, aren't you tired of your own complaints yet?
    Damn so owned. how will TheLastPig recoup after that?
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    Dave quit Twitter at the perfect time to be honest.

    I agree completely.
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    They do exactly this and have for a while. It's been pointed out already, but I think it needs to be highlighted that fans are upset that they're not doing the thing the are have already been doing.
    Read my follow up posts. They only do it on 1 platform and literally only started doing it consistently on the Euro tour. Fall had less than half and summer had even less than that.

    Improvement is good but ill hold my breath until I see it every show this summer. And it should be on more than facebook, cant say how often posts get lost in that feed due to the algorithm.
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    I think this is exactly what the band doesn’t want though - discussing what was good or bad about a particular show.

    It seems pretty clear to me that this band isn’t trying to cater to people who follow the tour and certainly isn’t trying to encourage that behavior either. They don’t want the type of discussion that happens here.
    If they were hired by the band they wouldn't be very negative on air. It would be stuff like How great was that 41? That guest really added something to Jimi. Can you believe they played Crazy Easy?!?!
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    Old 04-24-2019, 10:21 AM   #1818
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    Awesome, then got to a Phish site and talk about how great it is and stop clogging up every thread here with literally the same arguments. I mean, aren't you tired of your own complaints yet?
    I see I struck a nerve, Im sorry youre so bothered.
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    Old 04-24-2019, 10:32 AM   #1819
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    Read my follow up posts. They only do it on 1 platform and literally only started doing it consistently on the Euro tour. Fall had less than half and summer had even less than that.

    This is just flat out wrong.


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    Unless by "literally only started doing it consistently on the Euro tour" you mean "Have done it consistently since 2014."
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    Fair enough, Ill stand corrected on that. But that still isnt all the shows, and doesnt address it being only on one platform.
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    please, no facts in here that go against the narrative that the band sucks at all of the jobs they are supposed to have.
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    Fair enough, Ill stand corrected on that. But that still isnt all the shows, and doesnt address it being only on one platform.

    I think we should demand Stefan apologize for not posting 3 shows over the past 6 years.
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    I think we should demand Stefan apologize for not posting 3 shows over the past 6 years.
    Wouldnt surprise me whatsoever if stefan runs their social media pages


    Why would any be missed if they hired someone specifically to run their accounts?
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    Wouldnt surprise me whatsoever if stefan runs their social media pages


    Why would any be missed if they hired someone specifically to run their accounts?

    You're right. This might be the first time in documented history that someone hired to manage social media didn't post something correctly.


    It's a slap in the face to the fans.
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    Wouldnt surprise me whatsoever if stefan runs their social media pages


    Why would any be missed if they hired someone specifically to run their accounts?
    Let Copperpot run them. His pages are far better for awesome DMB content than the DMB page. Imagine what he could do if they gave him access to their content.
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    Let Copperpot run them. His pages are far better for awesome DMB content than the DMB page. Imagine what he could do if they gave him access to their content.
    Yeah that guy should’ve been on dmb payroll a long time ago.
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    Yeah that guy should’ve been on dmb payroll a long time ago.

    Why buy the cow?
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    Cause they aren't profiting in any way from his content?
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    Hilly actually pwning this thread right now.
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    Why buy the cow?
    Give him access to real footage and sbds instead of it all being fan sourced? He already works magic with what he has, cant imagine what he would do with source content.
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