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Old 08-19-2017, 05:58 AM   #41101
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This is awesome. A couple days ago I was questioning the merits of not showing up to counter-protest Nazis, and while I've changed my mind on just completely ignoring them, this is the type of non-violent counter that would be so much more effective than giving them what they want: an altercation.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/1...-of-nazis.html
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    That's really damn funny.
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    Old 08-19-2017, 06:11 AM   #41103
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    probably would have thrown the sandwich at her
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    This is awesome. A couple days ago I was questioning the merits of not showing up to counter-protest Nazis, and while I've changed my mind on just completely ignoring them, this is the type of non-violent counter that would be so much more effective than giving them what they want: an altercation.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/1...-of-nazis.html
    here is another way, always been fond of the sousaphone.
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    Old 08-19-2017, 06:26 AM   #41105
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    Where exactly was the manager in that Subway video? Tell her ass to leave and let the employees eat her sandwiches.
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    Old 08-19-2017, 06:32 AM   #41106
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    The KKK did a rally in a town around here a few years back. The police chief gave them an escort. People called him a supporter and his response was something like "I hate the KKK, my escort got them in and out of town in 30 minutes"

    Smart, imo. Just push em out


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    Old 08-19-2017, 07:19 AM   #41107
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    The KKK did a rally in a town around here a few years back. The police chief gave them an escort. People called him a supporter and his response was something like "I hate the KKK, my escort got them in and out of town in 30 minutes"

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    I can def see that. And if he even was a KKK sympathizer, hes not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The problem is we have a president who, while I don't think he's a Nazi, is very wishy washy on his views on the KKK and Nazism. At best he's completely tone deaf, at worst he's actually a sympathizer, and that emboldens these groups.
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    Old 08-19-2017, 08:21 AM   #41108
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    Am I the only one who find the UN to be a complete joke? Seriously, those worthless clowns have the gall to bitch and moan about the way the US deals with racism, human rights and anti-semetism. If there is a more anti-semetic organization on earth than the UN I am unaware of it. As for racism, what do they do to combat that - right nothing. Human rights violations - good lord this is an entity who has had libya, saudi arabia, moracco, venezuela, cuba, etc, etc on their committee for PROTECTING human rights. These people are a joke - so is this idiot pope but no one particularly gives his views much credence anymore - they respect the office, not the man. Are these people all reading the deluded ramblings of the braindead SPLC?
    You could even label them pro-slavery
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    I think the folks who make the decisions over at the U.N. really showed their true colours when they abandoned Rwanda. A country that is now essentially under a dictatorship.
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    Old 08-19-2017, 02:06 PM   #41110
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    Excellent assessment of Trump as President.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...d-donald-trump
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    Old 08-19-2017, 02:09 PM   #41111
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    Excellent assessment of Trump as President.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...d-donald-trump
    I think part of the problem this highlights is that people in the Trump constellation are more invested in what he purports to represent (smashing the wheel) than what he actually is (Donald before everyone and everything else).

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    Old 08-19-2017, 04:20 PM   #41112
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    When you're a cosmonaut, they just let you do it.
    how did this not a get a ... nice.
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    Old 08-19-2017, 04:41 PM   #41113
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    Trump acting presidential-ish today?
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    Old 08-19-2017, 04:56 PM   #41114
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    ^^ well, I mean it would seem SOMEONE got to him, and fast. He first sent out a tweet basically saying "all these anti-police protestors in Boston looking dangerous! god help the police!" something like that. But then it was rather quickly deleted, and one was sent out like generally saying "good to see message of being against hate and bigotry spreading, great job to the cops".


    So, pretty much
    1) what I'm really feeling about this, and how they were just saying about it on Fox & Friends
    2) what Kelly told me I should say to seem like I'm not a hateful reactionary imbecile
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    Old 08-19-2017, 04:59 PM   #41115
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    btw I wonder if at any chance some point in the future congress shall pass the "no president shall be allowed to maintain a personal social media account during the actual active period of their presidency, any and all online statements shall be made via and on behalf of the administration as a whole" law
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    Nothing as anti-nazi as burning the flag of the country that defeated nazism

    https://twitter.com/antifaboston/sta...41130133438468
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    Old 08-20-2017, 06:40 AM   #41117
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    Nothing as anti-nazi as burning the flag of the country that defeated nazism

    https://twitter.com/antifaboston/sta...41130133438468
    Are you Stephen Henreckson?
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    Old 08-20-2017, 06:58 AM   #41118
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    Are you Stephen Henreckson?
    Not sure what this means...
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    Old 08-20-2017, 07:43 AM   #41119
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    Nothing as anti-nazi as burning the flag of the country that defeated nazism



    https://twitter.com/antifaboston/sta...41130133438468


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    lol

    https://twitter.com/antifaboston/sta...58986824777728
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    Antifa is so awful.
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    Nothing as anti-nazi as burning the flag of the country that defeated nazism

    https://twitter.com/antifaboston/sta...41130133438468
    Free speech. Exercising their First Amendment rights.
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    Old 08-20-2017, 09:04 AM   #41123
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    Do liberals/progressives look at antifa/counterprotesters and see people acting in self-defense/reaction while people on the right see agitators who are part of a larger, persistent problem on the left?
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    I was watching meet the press this morning (for some reason) and that little goatee'd squirrel fellow kept calling it AUNTifa. As if Anti made the Aunt sound when combined with something. Very peculiar.
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    Old 08-20-2017, 11:14 AM   #41125
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    Do liberals/progressives look at antifa/counterprotesters and see people acting in self-defense/reaction while people on the right see agitators who are part of a larger, persistent problem on the left?
    I think everyone on both sides views it differently so I doubt anyone could give you a consensus opinion, personally I can only speak for myself. I am largely not a fan of protests because they rarely achieve much - frankly I think many of the people involved just want their 15 minutes of fame and if they start trouble more the better because it raises news coverage of their movement. That said, I think counter protests are worse, they never achieve squat, they make tense situations worse which increases the likelihood of violence and they warrant more media coverage for both groups. Just my opinion, I cannot speak for anyone else obviously.
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    Old 08-20-2017, 01:00 PM   #41126
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    Nothing as anti-nazi as burning the flag of the country that defeated nazism

    https://twitter.com/antifaboston/sta...41130133438468
    That's shitty. Still not as shitty as carrying tiki torches while chanting nazi phrases and killing someone while being a racist terrorist

    I get the right, for the most part, really wants to get the stink of the white nationalists off them; but throwing it to comparisons against antifa morons doesn't help.
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    Do liberals/progressives look at antifa/counterprotesters and see people acting in self-defense/reaction while people on the right see agitators who are part of a larger, persistent problem on the left?
    In everything in life, there are extremes. On the left and the right there are people who feel that they have legitimate concerns. And I'm sure many on both side can protest/speak out/etc peacefully. However there will always be extremes.
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    That's shitty. Still not as shitty as carrying tiki torches while chanting nazi phrases and killing someone while being a racist terrorist

    I get the right, for the most part, really wants to get the stink of the white nationalists off them; but throwing it to comparisons against antifa morons doesn't help.
    Antifa aren't any better than the white supremacist groups. You're doing the exact same thing you're talking about because they're a leftist group.
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    Antifa hates people for their beliefs.

    White supremacists hate people for things people cannot change (skin color)

    Yeah, one of those groups is definitely worse than the other.
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    Some politicians on the left are doing the dems absolutely no favors Do they really think their constant ignorant and inaccurate quotes aren't just going to galvanize the GOP even more. Can they be that naive?

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    "If you want to vote for a racist in the White House, then you better vote for Republicans," the former governor of Vermont said on MSNBC on Saturday.

    Dean stated that Trump has "no moral character" but added that he is in the minority since "there’s a lot more decent Americans than there are the kind of people who were supporting the folks in Charlottesville."

    "Today in the 2018 elections, if you vote for a Republican, you’re supporting Donald Trump. This has now become a referendum."
    Got it, anyone who votes Republican IN CONGRESSIONAL RACES is a racist. Give me a break, what clown that fool is. He also pretty much implies that everyone who voted for trump is a racist - again, come on - the claim is absurd.

    Then you have maxine waters, a woman has been voted the most corrupt member of congress 4 time and successfully accomplished exactly 3 pieces of legislation in 27 years - now this 'lady' is a hero to the left. Wow. Has anyone seen her comments lately, she has lost it and is probably demented or senile. Her constant yammering about trump has gone to an extreme that no other member of congress has achieved. She called Tucker Carlson a racist for asking why she lived out of her district and how she paid for a multi-million dollar house on her salary. So asking perfectly valid questions to some corrupt old bag is racism now, what planet am I living on? I'd have thought it was time for the demented old bat to hang up her spurs and live off her ill gotten money but now that she is a hero to the left (for standing up t o trump - as if no one else is doing that) I expect her to be in that damn seat until she is either arrested or lying in a hospital bed. We deserve better from our reps.

    How about that lunatic from Missouri, the state senator named Maria Chappelle-Nidal who called for the assassination of trump and will not retract it. Is this what we have come to. Good lord, what a crazy woman.

    Trust me, I get why dems are not happy with trump but wow, some of these people have taken it to a degree that is insane and does nothing at all constructive for the nation. I have provided only 3 examples but lord knows there are many more. I am no trump fan but some of these attacks and statements are just plain absurd.
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