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Old 05-09-2005, 01:06 PM   #61
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I don't think the comparison is fair just as someone said earlier its apples to oranges.
I hear a lot of people making this point, and I think that it's just wrong. Music is made to be compared, and just because different bands have different sounds doesn't mean that they're incomparable. Discussing these things enhances the listening experience for me at least. The idea that art is wholly subjective or that it isn't fair to the art itself to compare it is just fallacious if you ask me. The problem is when people don't give music a chance because of stereotyped comparisons, but I think that the comparison between these two great albums is perfectly fair, and actually there's quite a bit of similarity between the two anyway.
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    its a close one, might need a recount
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    Old 05-09-2005, 01:18 PM   #63
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    Not even a contest
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    Old 05-09-2005, 01:57 PM   #64
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    OK Computer is amazing, but it is just waaaaaaaay too depressing to be put above BTCS.
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    Old 05-09-2005, 02:47 PM   #65
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    Re: BTCS vs. Ok Computer

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    I hear a lot of people making this point, and I think that it's just wrong. Music is made to be compared, and just because different bands have different sounds doesn't mean that they're incomparable. Discussing these things enhances the listening experience for me at least. The idea that art is wholly subjective or that it isn't fair to the art itself to compare it is just fallacious if you ask me. The problem is when people don't give music a chance because of stereotyped comparisons, but I think that the comparison between these two great albums is perfectly fair, and actually there's quite a bit of similarity between the two anyway.
    Sorry but I respectfully disagree about the comparison. Your right that art isn't subjective. Just ask Andy Warhol. A can of soup is considered art. however, how good or bad art is is completely subjective. I personally don't think a can of tomato soup is "good" art, but alot of people did. BTCS or OK Computer, what's better? of course on this website, the far majority are going to say BTCS but it certainly isn't a real objective fucking forum, is it? That's what I mean by not fair. And that's why I reiterate if this poll was done on a Radiohead website, BTCS would not get one vote. I think that tells you the very subtle but huge reach and influence (non-commercial) of Radiohead's OK Computer. And the large part of Radiohead fans are not people who are just liking their music because it's cool to like them or it's intellectual as someone mentioned earlier.
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    I vote BTCS over OKC, however I like to think that all of Radiohead's albums are just one long strand of greatness.
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    I hear a lot of people making this point, and I think that it's just wrong. Music is made to be compared, and just because different bands have different sounds doesn't mean that they're incomparable. Discussing these things enhances the listening experience for me at least. The idea that art is wholly subjective or that it isn't fair to the art itself to compare it is just fallacious if you ask me. The problem is when people don't give music a chance because of stereotyped comparisons, but I think that the comparison between these two great albums is perfectly fair, and actually there's quite a bit of similarity between the two anyway.
    Do you think Dave Matthews Band makes music for the sake of having it be compared, or do you think they make music because they love making music and having it compared is an unfortunate by-product?
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    Ahem... "Thom Yorke is a giant douche..." Thank you for your time.
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    Ahem... "Thom Yorke is a giant douche..." Thank you for your time.

    Wow. Not cool. I mean you're entitled to your opinion, but he's a genius. Why do you say that?
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    Old 05-10-2005, 07:56 AM   #70
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    Do you think Dave Matthews Band makes music for the sake of having it be compared, or do you think they make music because they love making music and having it compared is an unfortunate by-product?
    Of course they make music because they love making music. I didn't mean that the entire purpose of art is as a means of comparison. But the way you stated that was kind of one-sided. It isn't an unfortunate by-product either. It's a natural outgrowth of most art that it breeds discussion and I think this is a good thing. It gives us a better understanding of it and it opens peoples eyes to new things. Maybe somebody around here will take another look at OK Computer now and find something they can really get into, and that's definitely good.
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    Of course they make music because they love making music. I didn't mean that the entire purpose of art is as a means of comparison. But the way you stated that was kind of one-sided. It isn't an unfortunate by-product either. It's a natural outgrowth of most art that it breeds discussion and I think this is a good thing. It gives us a better understanding of it and it opens peoples eyes to new things. Maybe somebody around here will take another look at OK Computer now and find something they can really get into, and that's definitely good.
    I agree. But I think it is important to criticize and discuss a work in and of itself in addition to comparison, which people forget to do sometimes.

    i.e. Stand Up is inferior to BTCS so it sucks.

    How about, Stand Up is inferior to BTCS but here are its individual merits...

    That was my only point. But I do agree with you.
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    I agree. But I think it is important to criticize and discuss a work in and of itself in addition to comparison, which people forget to do sometimes.

    i.e. Stand Up is inferior to BTCS so it sucks.

    How about, Stand Up is inferior to BTCS but here are its individual merits...

    That was my only point. But I do agree with you.
    Well as it turns out we are 100% in agreement then. I was kind of thinking that in order to compare anything you have to realize its own merits.
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    Well as it turns out we are 100% in agreement then. I was kind of thinking that in order to compare anything you have to realize its own merits.

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    radiohead and btcs are soo different its hard to compare them but i would go with ok computer because btcs is good but not my favorite dmb album...thier live stuff is way better and as an overall album, ok computer is better becuase it really is more of an experience you have to listen to the whole thing without skipping around
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    radiohead and btcs are soo different its hard to compare them but i would go with ok computer because btcs is good but not my favorite dmb album...thier live stuff is way better and as an overall album, ok computer is better becuase it really is more of an experience you have to listen to the whole thing without skipping around
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    OK Computer is amazing, but it is just waaaaaaaay too depressing to be put above BTCS.
    blood on the tracks is amazing, but its just waaaaaaay too depressing to be put above BTCS
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    Is there anyone that thinks that UTTAD is their best? back in the day, Crash or BTCS were great but could not top UTTAD for the hardcore fans. THAT ALBUM IS PERFECT.
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    Halloween is the angriest song from all that is DMB. I have to go with BTCS, on account of I don't even listen to Radiohead, or the album. I assume that on account of my being a davehead, I'd pick BTCS over any album I've ever heard, and I'm sure there's stuff I've heard better than Radiohead, despite their popularity around here, because while they are good, they are by no means up there with the elite bands of all time. I think BTCS is so amazing not necessarily because of the individual songs, because as far as individual songs that I like to hear live I probably like more from other albums, but the way the album was put together as a whole. All the reprises, and the way it just seems to flow so well together. Nothing flows together so smoothly as Halloween and The Stone, but the whole album just fits perfectly. It also has the most complex and deep lyrics, which makes it great as an album even though other songs are more exciting to hear live.

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    i think it's cute that 2 year old threads get bumped when a new album comes out.
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    Halloween is the angriest song from all that is DMB. I have to go with BTCS, on account of I don't even listen to Radiohead, or the album. I assume that on account of my being a davehead, I'd pick BTCS over any album I've ever heard, and I'm sure there's stuff I've heard better than Radiohead, despite their popularity around here, because while they are good, they are by no means up there with the elite bands of all time. I think BTCS is so amazing not necessarily because of the individual songs, because as far as individual songs that I like to hear live I probably like more from other albums, but the way the album was put together as a whole. All the reprises, and the way it just seems to flow so well together. Nothing flows together so smoothly as Halloween and The Stone, but the whole album just fits perfectly. It also has the most complex and deep lyrics, which makes it great as an album even though other songs are more exciting to hear live.
    I don't see how you could NOT put Radiohead with the elite bands of all time. Behind U2 aren't they the most popular band in the world? And in my opinion, the best, tied with DMB of course.
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    Halloween is the angriest song from all that is DMB. I have to go with BTCS, on account of I don't even listen to Radiohead, or the album. I assume that on account of my being a davehead, I'd pick BTCS over any album I've ever heard, and I'm sure there's stuff I've heard better than Radiohead, despite their popularity around here, because while they are good, they are by no means up there with the elite bands of all time. I think BTCS is so amazing not necessarily because of the individual songs, because as far as individual songs that I like to hear live I probably like more from other albums, but the way the album was put together as a whole. All the reprises, and the way it just seems to flow so well together. Nothing flows together so smoothly as Halloween and The Stone, but the whole album just fits perfectly. It also has the most complex and deep lyrics, which makes it great as an album even though other songs are more exciting to hear live.
    If you admit that you don't know Radiohead, you can't really comment on them being an elite band. In my opinion they are easily one of the top ten of all time as it stands, and they may even slip into the top 5 when all is said and done. Also, to assume that because you're a DMB fan there's nothing else that can ever be better for you is kind of confining don't you think?
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    i'm sorry but dmb is by no means in an elite group as one of the greatest bands of all time, and radiohead has been alot more influencial among GOOD musicians. Also, i agree that BTCS isn't even dmb's best album, i prefer uttad or crash (and if dmb were to play one album in its entirety live i'd want it to be crash).
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    my favorite album would be BS because all the songs really fit well together
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    i personally like ok computer better
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    that's like comparing shoes to sandals. I wouldn't wear shoes at the beach, but when I'm in the mountains I don't wear sandals. If I'm in the mood for it I'll play one or the other. I have to say that BTCS blows ok computer out of the water musically and lyrically, but sometimes I'm not in the mood for loving songs like on BTCS.
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    that's like comparing shoes to sandals. I wouldn't wear shoes at the beach, but when I'm in the mountains I don't wear sandals. If I'm in the mood for it I'll play one or the other. I have to say that BTCS blows ok computer out of the water musically and lyrically, but sometimes I'm not in the mood for loving songs like on BTCS.

    BTCS blows OK Computer out of the water musically and lyrically? Really?

    I am just curious, but what would you say the best album of the 90s not by DMB is. And how close behind BTCS would you put it?
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    and how is btcs better lyrically than ok computer?

    Up above
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    makes me wanna makes me wanna
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    just one example, but how can you possibly say that thom's lyrics arent just as good if not better than dave's
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    If you admit that you don't know Radiohead, you can't really comment on them being an elite band. In my opinion they are easily one of the top ten of all time as it stands, and they may even slip into the top 5 when all is said and done. Also, to assume that because you're a DMB fan there's nothing else that can ever be better for you is kind of confining don't you think?
    I know a little about Radiohead as a band, but I don't know their music. I'm not even talking about my personal opinion, but in general you don't hear them considered as one of the elite bands of all time. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't hear them talked about when you talk about great bands, not to say they aren't, but that's just the feeling I get. But true, I don't know Radiohead. That's why I wasn't putting forth an opinion, just an observation.
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    and how is btcs better lyrically than ok computer?

    Up above
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    drill holes in themselves
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    makes me wanna makes me wanna
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    just one example, but how can you possibly say that thom's lyrics arent just as good if not better than dave's
    you made a good point, comparing an amazing verse to a crappy chorus. You should've compared Spoon, Pig, The Stone, or something better than Stay. I still voted OKC
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    and how is btcs better lyrically than ok computer?

    Up above
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    of all these weird creatures
    who lock up their spirits,
    drill holes in themselves
    and live for their secrets

    vs.

    makes me wanna makes me wanna
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    makes me wanna makes me wanna
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    don't it make you wanna don't it make you wanna
    stay


    just one example, but how can you possibly say that thom's lyrics arent just as good if not better than dave's
    First of all, no. Second of all, you should have compared that to these lyrics:

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